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How many layers of genjutsu does nard resist?
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Good chapter this month.
None. Naruto doesn't have any Genjutsu resistance.
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He has a "kinda" resistance thanks to Kurama being able to snap him out of it like Gyuki does with Bee but it's not technically a resistance in its own right.
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I like your thumbnails
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That's not a resistance, it's Power Null.
Thank you bubba, I appreciate that
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Reddit has joined the cope train
Huh, it took longer than I thought for Reddit to notice.
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The Power Null is layered, btw, but I haven't gotten around to updating that just yet.
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There’s a lot of layering missing. Like fear/madness
Nard’s sealing
6CT power null and sealing
Possibly for Paralysis as well
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They are on my list of things to do. There’s just so many things that I have lined up but don’t have time do, due to my upcoming exams. Though it never hurts to have help down in the basementYou gonna work on them yourself or are you expecting someone else to do them?
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Actual definition of corninessThey posted a picture of the 4-B rating on the wiki, a gif of Naruto beating up Isshiki, and a comment saying "Witness the fight between two solar system levels, OOOOH LOOK HOW THEY DESTROYED THAT SOLAR SYSTEM"
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slayer turning into meYou gonna work on them yourself or are you expecting someone else to do them?
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Dear God, the pacing for my CRT output is even worse than Boruto's release schedule
MinatoSparkle
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This sounds like a JJK term
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Well, “Genjutsu” works by controlling the “Chakra” flowing through the brain of the individual. It’s Illusion Manipulation via Energy Control.
My principle is, if Character X has energy that flows from their body (Ki, Reiatsu, etc.), Genjutsu would work (Unless everyone is being “Militant” on not wanting a Character to use their abilities as portrayed and try to argue, “It HaS tO bE cHaKrA”…
).But if Character X “doesn’t” have an “Energy System”, then no because again, Genjutsu is Illusion Manipulation via Energy Manipulation.
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Nuh uhWell, “Genjutsu” works by controlling the “Chakra” flowing through the brain of the individual. It’s Illusion Manipulation via Energy Control.
My principle is, if Character X has energy that flows from their body (Ki, Reiatsu, etc.), Genjutsu would work (Unless everyone is being “Militant” on not wanting a Character to use their abilities as portrayed and try to argue, “It HaS tO bE cHaKrA”…
But if Character X “doesn’t” have an “Energy System”, then no because again, Genjutsu is Illusion Manipulation via Energy Manipulation.
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yes, as long as the character is alive or has a life force equivalent like a soul.
and organic eyes if its occular GJ
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no
you get genjutsu that you can apply to surfaces like walls as if it was some sort of gel lol
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it also works on things like Edo Tensei, which while in use are just paper bodies with the person's soul attached, Zetsu, who is just play-doh with Hashirama Cells, and Bijuu, which are just solid souls (albiet they do have flesh but idk if they have the same kind of physical anatomy that an actual animal would have.)
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They do, but it's all made-up of chakra.
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But that Genjutsu still only affects the people who look at it bc it’s not matter manipulation or anything like that, right? Ntm it literally goes against what Genjutsu is described as, so it would have to mean the Genjutsu used on surfaces is affecting the victims chakra still upon looking.
If that makes sense…
That’s the only way I can see it making sense w/o contradictions or retcons.
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But… does there ”have” to be one here tis the question?There are always exceptions to rules
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Genjutsu affects the chakra as a consequence of affecting the senses first, not the other way around.
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its just a misunderstanding of Jiraiya's quote
i understand why, the viz translation is really worded weirdly
but its less that Energy Manipulation > creates illusions and more that being under genjutsu >controls your chakra
if that makes sense ?
i understand why, the viz translation is really worded weirdly
but its less that Energy Manipulation > creates illusions and more that being under genjutsu >controls your chakra
if that makes sense ?
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Iirc, doesn’t the Databook assert: Controlling the Brains Chakra occurs before manipulation of the senses?
Because all that means is, for the Genjutsu used on the Surfaces, the affect is faster than human Perception Speed, or FTE speeds, etc.
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That… I’m stun locked thinking about this, ngl!
Do we have the Japanese Raws to confirm this?
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いいかナルト・・・のうしんけいけいその脳神経系に流れるチャクラを己がコントロール するというげんじゅつはたら幻術というのは相手の五感に働きかけかなりこうど高度なにんじゅつインテリ忍術だ
"Listen, Naruto...
Genjutsu is a technique
where you take control of the chakra
flowing through the opponent's nervous system.
Genjutsu works by interfering with the target’s five senses.
It's a highly advanced, intellectual ninja technique."
"Listen, Naruto...
Genjutsu is a technique
where you take control of the chakra
flowing through the opponent's nervous system.
Genjutsu works by interfering with the target’s five senses.
It's a highly advanced, intellectual ninja technique."
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I was blitzed
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if the sensory part came second then there would be no need to target the senses first ( see occular genjutsu, sound genjutsu ect)
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So:
- Genjutsu = Taking control of the Targets Chakra Flowing through the Nervous System.
- Genjutsu Works by affecting the senses.
We know the “Effect” is directly tied to control of the targets Chakra, which is why Jiraiya’s Method for dispelling it is “Stop Chakra Flow > Explode Chakra Flow”.
This would inherently mean Genjutsu controlling the Senses would have to take place after Chakra is being controlled, because otherwise, why is Chakra even a factor?
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hell sarada was able to layer a genjutsu ontop of another genjutsu that was controlling her body simply putting a genjutsu on herself via her reflection.
which would be weird if she needed to have first full control of her own chakra to do so, because then why not just break the genjutsu to begin with
which would be weird if she needed to have first full control of her own chakra to do so, because then why not just break the genjutsu to begin with
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no its just that stopping your chakra flow basically causes a disruption which can break the genjutsu, you can replicate this effect without chakra.
some genjutsu can be broken out of through pain, like how shikamaru broke out of tayuya's via breaking his finger and Kurenai could break out of itachi's reversal genjutsu ability by biting her finger.
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All that would mean is Jiraiya’s “method” isn’t widely known. Even against Itachi, Naruto was able to control his own Chakra to a degree, which drew Itachi’s praise. Genjutsu doesn’t inherently mean the victim doesn’t have “any” control over their chakra (Otherwise, Jiraiya was a fraud).
Sarada layering Genjutsu over Genjutsu is simply doing what Itachi & Sasuke did with Kabuto’s.
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now i should prob say that genjutsu shouldnt be thought of as a specific mechanic even though theres obvious genjutsu that are used more commonly, but more an umbrella turn for mind ninja bullshit, some with their own mechanics.
for example the mist ninja in the chunin exams has a genjutsu that creates illusionary clones, said clones can physically be smacked by naruto.
same with kakashi who can physically dispel a genjutsu with his raikiri during the obito fight.
for example the mist ninja in the chunin exams has a genjutsu that creates illusionary clones, said clones can physically be smacked by naruto.
same with kakashi who can physically dispel a genjutsu with his raikiri during the obito fight.
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But doesn’t that inherently mean for a target to be affected by Genjutsu, their Chakra must be able to be controlled? So why would controlling chakra be secondary if Chakra Control is primary to breaking it in the equation?
Sure, pain is method, yes. Jiraiya’s method is just another method.
