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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Funnily enough, some random guy did that to GoH and completely spammed the verse page right after I spent an hour cleaning everything up
(the verse uses like, 6ish AP calcs in total and now we have like 24 of them in the page, meaning about 15-18 useless support calcs)
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MinatoSparkle
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Until we get more info, probably Sarada. Himawari's best assertion is being vaguely above K1 Kawaki who doesn't have any impressive scaling yet, while Sarada is consistently able to compete with high tiers even without the MS
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I love it. Been here since day 1 and still going strong. I hope we have 3 years at least left, but we’ll see.
- Favorite Moment — Jigen Squaring up with PS and Kurama Avatar
- Favorite Character — Momoshiki
- Favorite Arc — Idk if this is one arc or many, but, “Kawaki Arriving & up through The Resolution with Isshiki & Borushiki fight where Sasuke loses his Rinnegan”, is my Favorite Stretch.
- Favorite Fight — “Kawaki vs Borushiki” & “Naruto/Sasuke & Baryon Mode Naruto vs Isshiki” are tied.
TBV Rating: 8/10 (Only because it’s still too soon to be rating it “completely”, but it has maintained a consistent level and feel as with NNG, if not slightly higher).
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exactly this, sarada hard negs
way more skilled and more experienced, higher scaling
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If I had to do it myself
1. Kurama's death, Boruto's death, Kawaki's final talk to Naruto before sealing him, Naruto telling Kawaki that if he didn't feel at home in Konoha then there was no point of him becoming Hokage (I could talk about this moment all day, such an underrated gem from a writing standpoint in Boruto and shows that Kodachi understands Naruto as a character), to name a few
2. Just manga exclusively, Kawaki and Momoshiki
3. Same as you, that whole Kawaki stretch until Code Arc, but also the Ao arc (which is also super super underrated)
4. Team 7 vs Boro, Naruto vs Isshiki, Kawaki vs Momoshiki
NNG Rating: 7/10
TBV: 7.5/10
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Speaking of Kawaki, if he doesn’t get any new feats prior to getting his limiter removed, his current self would just get a, “Stronger than before”, tag?
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Also @NeoKingOfLight someone off site said that with the full context of the chapter, SM Mitsuki attacking Ryu (the spoiler page that was dropped before the full chapter), shows him dispersing Ryu's sand with his snakes and launching them towards Ryu before Ryu jumps away and directs Araya in front of the snakes. At first I didn't see it but after rereading it, I kinda see where he's coming from. Because you can see the Iron Sand broken up around Mitsuki.
Tier 5 Mitsuki
Tier 5 Mitsuki
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So, we know Limited Code is > Delta via statements and Narration Statements, but in regards to Jigen, he should still be weaker than Kv1 Jigen based on this, right?
Sounds like Isshiki is finding out the extent to which Jigen can’t go the distance in the form, which would mean Code has never fought Jigen in that form, which should mean Code is weaker than Kv1 Jigen.
Sounds like Isshiki is finding out the extent to which Jigen can’t go the distance in the form, which would mean Code has never fought Jigen in that form, which should mean Code is weaker than Kv1 Jigen.
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Also @NeoKingOfLight someone off site said that with the full context of the chapter, SM Mitsuki attacking Ryu (the spoiler page that was dropped before the full chapter), shows him dispersing Ryu's sand with his snakes and launching them towards Ryu before Ryu jumps away and directs Araya in front of the snakes. At first I didn't see it but after rereading it, I kinda see where he's coming from. Because you can see the Iron Sand broken up around Mitsuki.
Tier 5 Mitsuki
Let me double check.
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Well there's no doubt Ryu is superior to SM Mitsuki.Then again, SM Mitsuki was one shot by a direct hit from the Iron Sand, so…
But also this shows how crazy of an uphill battle they're fighting... one tap and they're done for. Sarada NEEDS to lock in
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Up until the war arc, sure. After that? Not really
His control over rasenshuriken increased quite considerable since then to the point where he can use it as a psuedo homing attack, with its aoe limited to his actual targets (the puppets at the beginning of the movie and Toneri at the end). Using the movie as an example because we know that the movie didn't shy away from giga DC feats (Sasuke, Lee, Toneri, Chakra cannon, meteor crashes etc)
Even in the war arc, his multi barrage rasenshuriken explosion was only marginally bigger than kaguya. And that was 9 rasenshurikens exploding at once. Not going to bring up its usage in boruto since that's what's under scrutiny
This is not to say that he can't make big booms. It's just something he now needs to actively try to do rather than a byproduct of his earlier usage
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Ngl that looks more like him just bending his throw and having the rasen shuriken disappear afterwards.
That's kinda hard to say given we had no point of reference.
Well technically we could use the curvature of the planet which is visible there but that would most likely give us an explosion few kilometers wide which is not exactly small lol.
Idk, it doesn't really seem like it. I mean look at the final clash in the VoTE. The wind release was negating/lowering the power of Sasukes attack and the clash still had like a country level DC. And that's a chakra control feat even Kurama glazed to be Hagoromo level, something it didn't say about Naruto before that and Nard already had damn near flawless chakra control
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Do we have a shot of how high up Kaguya is above the ground either before or after the explosion? That could help detirmine the size.
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I believe this is the closest one we have
But I feel like curvature scaling seems more accurate than angsizing them here.
Since the first panel of the page shows Naruto like a speck from Kaguyas POV but then Kaguya looks normal sized from Narutos POV
(either way the explosion would be at worst around a kilometre wide, at best dozens of kilometers. Neither of which really supports Naruto controlling it's size)
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Welp, ik what I'm gonna be watching for the next few days
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You’re referring to Code without limiters, right? If that’s the case, I think the analogy you’re using might not be accurate. As for the idea of full power Code being stronger than Jigen, I don’t think it effectively counters the argument that Base Code is stronger than Jigen.
According to Amado, the scientist who helped with the Karma implant process (A reliable source who also knew Jigen was at less than Ten percent after the Fight with Naruto and Sasuke implying he knew what Full power Jigen is like), the reaction that occurred in Code’s “body” was specifically responsible for amplifying his combat abilities beyond Jigen’s. He then pointed out that while others had “amped” their “ bodies”, a limiter was placed specifically on Code’s “body”. However, there was no mention of any limiter being placed on Code’s Karma.
Even in his base form, Code is shown to output more chakra to create additional claw marks, something he previously deemed impossible also adds to the evidence that the restored him is his new Base form with white hair. So, it seems that:
No limiter Karma Code >~ No limiter Base Code > Full power Jigen.
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Our coolest feat is big head Naruto instead of double page spreads.
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Nah, Code with limiters. I’ve seen arguments before that people try to Scale Code over Naruto based on his fight with Delta, but if Code (W/ Limiters) isn’t stronger than Kv1 Jigen, aside of the Claw Marks, which I can see Naruto getting over via Sensory, I don’t see Code beating Naruto or Sasuke.
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fav moments, father son rasengan,, Boruto's return, hinata saying goodbye to boruto on his last mission, kurama's death, team 7 compress rasengan, basically the entire parent child day stuff.
Fav characters: Sarada, TBV Boruto,Momoshiki,Jura
Fav Arc: Omnipotence
Fav Fight: Ao vs Boruto/ momo fight in the anime and boruto/sarada vs hidari for manga
NNG: 7
TBV: 7
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Heres a Rando Boruto vs Jujutsu kaisen matchup i made
vsbattles.com
Nobara vs Sarada Jujutsu Kaisen vs Boruto
Academy Entrance Saga Sarada: Kyoto Goodwill Event Arc Nobara: From what i Understand Sarada > 18 Tons Nobara > 25 Tons Speed is equalized Battle takes place in that random park that appeared in Bleach memories of nobody
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Oh, I agree Limiters Code is not stronger than SPSM Naruto for sure.
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Generally, I feel like the series just keeps improving. Everything I didn't like about it at first just gets improved as the story goes further.
Favorite moment: Kawaki sealing Naruto or Kawaki regaining karma
Favorite arc: either Codes assault or Omnipotence
Favorite fights: Boro vs team 7 or Kawaki vs Momoshiki
NNG: 7/10
TBV: so far at least 8/10 but probably way higher as it goes in, almost every chapter so far was peak fiction
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I can’t see it what are they sayin lmaoReddit has joined the cope train
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They posted a picture of the 4-B rating on the wiki, a gif of Naruto beating up Isshiki, and a comment saying "Witness the fight between two solar system levels, OOOOH LOOK HOW THEY DESTROYED THAT SOLAR SYSTEM"
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Don’t really use Reddit but god damn after scrolling a few threads in there, they really hate nards guts. Like how do you still think nards mountain level in 2025They posted a picture of the 4-B rating on the wiki, a gif of Naruto beating up Isshiki, and a comment saying "Witness the fight between two solar system levels, OOOOH LOOK HOW THEY DESTROYED THAT SOLAR SYSTEM"
. They must be intellectually challenged if they think that only big booms can verify a characters tiers cuz there’s no way someone thinks like this
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They posted a picture of the 4-B rating on the wiki, a gif of Naruto beating up Isshiki, and a comment saying "Witness the fight between two solar system levels, OOOOH LOOK HOW THEY DESTROYED THAT SOLAR SYSTEM"
I was wondering how long it was gonna take for people on reddit to shit themselves over that rating
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The sub is hilarious, country level lightning speed Nard is equally as popular as 1-C immeasurable IchigoDon’t really use Reddit but god damn after scrolling a few threads in there, they really hate nards guts. Like how do you still think nards mountain level in 2025
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1-C strawberryThe sub is hilarious, country level lightning speed Nard is equally as popular as 1-C immeasurable Ichigo
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Two equally valid and sound interpretations.
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Is that a strawberry as your pfp
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