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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

TiltedFN said:
"Womp to the *** womp
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Alr since you want attention here it is
TiltedFN said:
At least our manga has actual planet busting and actual multipliers lmfaooo, where are your on-panel planet busting feats?
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the SSJ AP multipliers all get contradicted by on screen feats, none of them outside Kaioken apply to speed

Also dragon ball is kinda fodder outside stats, most equal stat matchups between naruto and goku end in naruto abusing goku horribly

TiltedFN said:
"Roshi busting the moon is only known thanks to dialogues"

And the missing moon, where's ya'lls moon busting? Lmao
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"Missing moon" is a weak counter, without the dialogues it'd get rejected a bajillion times if you tried to get Roshi there

roshi's feat is barely friggin baseline, an embarassing 29.6 exatons that not a soul realistically scales to

the naruto moon feats are so better

tenseigan can protect the inner castle despite the obliteration of the moon = 5C
Toneri splits the moon and send its halves flying = 5C+
Ham and Hags make the moon = 5C+
Naruto and Sasuke make the moon = 5C+
Hagoromo hurls the moon into orbit = Low 5B~5B (845e~600+ ZT)





TiltedFN said:
"Cell gets wanked to 4B based on ultra generous assumptions that are outrageous outliers"

And where's your 4-B feat that isn't based on completely wanking a feat that wasn't even a feat lmao
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I never said we use only visual feats, your projecting your own problems onto me, you came into the thread whining about me using statements to scale, I threw your energy at you and then you started seething


if you do wish for a counterpart, ETSO scales above DBZ's strongest feat/calc/power statement
it woulda wiped out the whole z verse had it not been for you know multipliers haha

TiltedFN said:
Okay and? Where's your 5-B or Low 4-C feats? Anything on-screen or on-panel? Remove the The Last movie feat and you literally have nothing lmfaooo, we have on screen multiverse destruction and creation.
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no you don't, allat relies on still statements+ again quit projecting bud (gokus feat obviously isnt on screen destruction it's on screen shockwaves, I assume he means zeno but that's thanks to toei again lolz) toei saving them boys from fighting one piece

TiltedFN said:
You mean like those countless failed uni naruto threads? Lmao
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the heck does that have to do with me? I didnt make any Uni threads that got rejected
meanwhile we can peep your profile to see countless wank attempts facing hard rejections 😂
Samlex1234 said:
Do you have the time and energy to see this through? If it stretches on, do you have the stamina to endure?
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nah he's just gonna ask the db general disc to come help again lol
TiltedFN said:
Lmao ghost being surprised when someone calls out how disingenuous he is
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no one's surprised, It's more like I am laughing at you for being hurt enough to stutter and reply thrice to the same thing believing the first try wasn't enough and desperately trying to get the W, nice job calling your buddies for help tho (they're just as cheeks in arguing)

I believe behaving in the way that you are right now over a cartoon is more telling of if a person doesn't go outside or not but that's just me
TheGodOfICE777 said:
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Not needed for naruto to beat db's ass, hax is enough 🤫

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ChoursDropoff said:
Okay Lmao deep down in your heart you know that shit ain’t true. I can think of 5 feats in DB that eclipse all of Naruto.
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you quoted me saying Buu has no feats in the manga warranting a tier upgrade and dragon ball being a statement merchant and replied with this,
sth completely different 😭

tho I'll say this, I will match the honesty level of whoever I am debating against, Im generally fine with 2C DB but if someone goons against naruto ima argue goku doesnt scale to the BOG feat or the BOG feat not being 2C, pretty simple, Tilted came in whining and he got his energy sent back at him, if you wish to do what he did I would be more than happy to entertain you
 
tilteds arguments summarised :


G : so guys look at this cool statement based scale
T : stop using statements! your verse is weak!
G : aint your verse do the same?
T : SHOW YOUR ON SCREEN FEATS


hilarious guy
 
To extend the principle of charity, a lot of people in casual conversation will use feats and statements are colloquialisms to mean the same thing. Both are claims on what a character can do, one through visual depiction the other through textual or auditory description. Seems kind of petty to get hung up on the "um actually" of the distinction, but uh this entire back in forth is mega petty on both sides.

The original topic at hand tho, conceptually speaking, which verse is more consistently scaled and by what metrics you measure that, is a very interesting discussion topic. Although... it'd be a lot cooler if that discussion could be had without people resorting to packing... but y'all do you.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
To extend the principle of charity, a lot of people in casual conversation will use feats and statements are colloquialisms to mean the same thing. Both are claims on what a character can do, one through visual depiction the other through textual or auditory description. Seems kind of petty to get hung up on the "um actually" of the distinction, but uh this entire back in forth is mega petty on both sides.

The original topic at hand tho, conceptually speaking, which verse is more consistently scaled and by what metrics you measure that, is a very interesting discussion topic. Although... it'd be a lot cooler if that discussion could be had without people resorting to packing... but y'all do you.
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Twas returning the energy 🤷‍♂️
MinatoSparkle said:
You called it "wank" and "ultra generous interpretations/outrageous outliers"
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Yeah being a direct statement doesn’t really save you from that, cell talking with regards to the destruction of a solar system isn’t in contention, it’s whether he literally means it or not, there’s factors to consider like him talking out of his ass to scare Gohan and not actually knowing when he’s actually gathered up enough energy to blow up a solar system, that does require a good level of assumption and these characters were narratively 5B, so you’re jumping to 4B, sth far beyond anything shown in the story with no supporting feats or claims within the narrative

so yea if your verse really has these glaring problems you don’t really have any right to get on a high horse to talk down about Naruto scaling
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Twas returning the energy 🤷‍♂️
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Aight, but like imagine how bad they’d look and how good you’d look, if instead of matching condescending arse with condescending arse, you were civil and cordial about it 🔥

Lemmings follow each other off a cliff to their deaths simply because the lemming in front of them did it. Matching energy didn’t profit them

I’m not your mom tho lol so feel free to ignore me, it’s unsolicited advice I know 😭
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Yeah being a direct statement doesn’t really save you from that, cell talking with regards to the destruction of a solar system isn’t in contention, it’s whether he literally means it or not, there’s factors to consider like him talking out of his ass to scare Gohan and not actually knowing when he’s actually gathered up enough energy to blow up a solar system, that does require a good level of assumption
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It's confirmed in so many sources that he did have the power to destroy the Solar System that it's not questionable at all
Ghostimuscrime said:
and these characters were narratively 5B, so you’re jumping to 4B, sth far beyond anything shown in the story with no supporting feats or claims within the narrative
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Considering the continuous exponential jumps and multipliers, it's not an outlier

Also this is ignoring the SSJG Goku statements you mentioned which are WoG
 
There’s just no scenario where Tier 4 Nard is valid but 4-B Manga DB is an outlier.

Not when casual planet busting is a thing in much earlier arcs, and powercliffing by several orders of magnitude every arc is Dragon Ball’s bread and butter.

But like Arc said, it’s an interesting topic just not doable if everyone involved just reps their verse with no intention of giving the same benefit of the doubt/skepticism to the other side.
 
Also let’s not pretend some of y’all wouldn’t be dancing in your rooms if Jura or somebody got that same “I’m about to nuke the entire solar system” statement.

Statements are valid scaling if they aren’t contradicted or outliers.
 
Godernet said:
Also, let’s not pretend some of y’all wouldn’t be dancing in your rooms if Jura or somebody got that same “I’m about to nuke the entire solar system” statement.

Statements are valid scaling if they aren’t contradicted or outliers.
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Not really because Arc is just gonna come and place an absurd amount of timeframe on the feat due to us not knowing how long it takes for him to destroy the solar system boom you can get tier 6 for the EPS under a perfect condition. We have far better statements even ETSO>
 
Godernet said:
Also let’s not pretend some of y’all wouldn’t be dancing in your rooms if Jura or somebody got that same “I’m about to nuke the entire solar system” statement.

Statements are valid scaling if they aren’t contradicted or outliers.
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tell that to the guy who came here all pissed over statement scaling for naruto
dont dish out energy you cant handle receiving back
if its valid for db its valid for naruto
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Aight, but like imagine how bad they’d look and how good you’d look, if instead of matching condescending arse with condescending arse, you were civil and cordial about it 🔥
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you know arc I hate it when you start making sense
MinatoSparkle said:
It's confirmed in so many sources that he did have the power to destroy the Solar System that it's not questionable at all
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the other sources are all based on the manga statement and thus carry over the same issues ggs
MinatoSparkle said:
Also this is ignoring the SSJG Goku statements you mentioned which are WoG
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cool, these are still statements, the topic is who uses purely on screen stuff not who uses the most consistent/lore accurate stuff
Samlex1234 said:
Not really because Arc is just gonna come and place an absurd amount of timeframe on the feat due to us not knowing how long it takes for him to destroy the solar system boom you can get tier 6 for the EPS under a perfect condition. We have far better statements even ETSO>
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brother is still a villainizing arc in 2025 💔
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
are there some decently to good skilled non uchiha's in tier 7A?
(Its fine if they are goated in skill too)
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1st Gate Guy, Kisame, Base-V1 Bee, KM0-KM3 Naruto, BoS Gaara, Sick Orochimaru, and Base Edo Jinchuriki.
Samlex1234 said:
Not really because Arc is just gonna come and place an absurd amount of timeframe on the feat due to us not knowing how long it takes for him to destroy the solar system boom you can get tier 6 for the EPS under a perfect condition. We have far better statements even ETSO>
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Ghostimuscrime said:
the other sources are all based on the manga statement and thus carry over the same issues ggs
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Ghostimuscrime said:
cool, these are still statements, the topic is who uses purely on screen stuff not who uses the most consistent/lore accurate stuff
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You were acting like they were invalid and wrong in general
 
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Not defending Ghost or anything, but the DBfans that came on here just to shit on Naruto sound very salty and defensive ngl.

Like we get it, Krillin solos Narutoverse. It's not that deep.
 
yeah ngl reading the thread, i dont care much for the huur duur my feats are better than yours debate that was going on here but this entire thing was initiated by someone being passively aggressive towards ghost for simply wanting a feat in the series to be better or higher, very normal thing to say about a series you like on a forum thats entirely dedicated to index how strong a fictional character is using pseudo math standards to calculate how accurate an author can draw a rock in the distance that his background artist most likely drew.
 
I’m hearing people are saying Ryu forced the snakes down with Iron Sand. With Ike’s combat panelling, we won't know until the full chapter releases.
 
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