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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Realistically, if Minato never dies and lives, does that ultimately stunt Naruto’s growth come EoS? Sure, his base would likely be stronger and he’d likely be more haxed, but he’d also never have Kurama. Ntm almost every “major” fight he’d have would be kinda nulled(?).
  • If Minato lived, I doubt Oro attacks the leaf (No Gaara Fight).
  • I doubt the Uchiha Massacre happens (Naruto vs Sasuke comes about very differently with different circumstances given the Ashura / Indra stuff).
  • Gaara likely doesn’t become Kazekage bc Rasa isn’t killed (Thus no Kzkge Rescue Arc).
  • No Tenchi Bridge Arc.
  • It’s 50/50 if he learns FRS
The list goes on.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Realistically, if Minato never dies and lives, does that ultimately stunt Naruto’s growth come EoS? Sure, his base would likely be stronger and he’d likely be more haxed, but he’d also never have Kurama. Ntm almost every “major” fight he’d have would be kinda nulled(?).
  • If Minato lived, I doubt Oro attacks the leaf (No Gaara Fight).
  • I doubt the Uchiha Massacre happens (Naruto vs Sasuke comes about very differently with different circumstances given the Ashura / Indra stuff).
  • Gaara likely doesn’t become Kazekage bc Rasa isn’t killed (Thus no Kzkge Rescue Arc).
  • No Tenchi Bridge Arc.
  • It’s 50/50 if he learns FRS
The list goes on.
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-Minato trains Naruto
-Both are trying to perfect the Rasenshuriken
-Obito might get dropped during a solo attempt at the Massacre, or at least forced to retreat, or never attempt it.
-Sasuke is trained by Itachi and Shisui.
-Naruto and Sasuke have friends to hang out and train with
-Oro probably still kills the Kazekage to trigger a war, but maybe he doesn't.
-Naruto only learns Shadow Clones if his dad teaches him, or Mizuki just doesn't try to steal the scroll. Hell, maybe Mizuki turns into a viable ally, who knows?!
-Search for Tsunade happens with the intent to heal Itachi, but Orochimaru has both arms.


Etc. The rest is paid DLC.
 
i still found ridiculous that people think Naruto was gay (or bisexual), or at least there was gay subtext or whatever...am, i am sorry, how?I know that Naruto was obsessed with bringing Sasuke back, but at no point did it feel like it was because he was secretly in love or had minimal romantic feelings, rather it seemed like he wanted to make a friend come back because he cared about his only friend (sorry shikamaru)
 
Alexander said:
i still found ridiculous that people think Naruto was gay (or bisexual), or at least there was gay subtext or whatever...am, i am sorry, how?I know that Naruto was obsessed with bringing Sasuke back, but at no point did it feel like it was because he was secretly in love or had minimal romantic feelings, rather it seemed like he wanted to make a friend come back because he cared about his only friend (sorry shikamaru)
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Don't let the Twitter gay shippers catch you saying this.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Place your bets and lock in for the daemon vs Jura fight here <<<<

This is to keep track of who is voting for who

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The last thing Daemon is gonna see before a long naptime:
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JohnHendrix212 said:
Don't let the Twitter gay shippers catch you saying this.
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I don't care, on Twitter they say almost anything, but I'm not going to buy the story that Naruto is bisexual, I can buy that it feels strange, but DAMN, the logic doesn't make much sense, we would have to ignore the context of both to that works, or even more, we should ignore that they consider themselves BROTHERS.
 
Alexander said:
i still found ridiculous that people think Naruto was gay (or bisexual), or at least there was gay subtext or whatever...am, i am sorry, how?I know that Naruto was obsessed with bringing Sasuke back, but at no point did it feel like it was because he was secretly in love or had minimal romantic feelings, rather it seemed like he wanted to make a friend come back because he cared about his only friend (sorry shikamaru)
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That heart locket cover didn't help
 
What chapter was it that BZ interfaced with the Tree’s underground? That might be where Matsuri’s ability stems from… 🤔

I think BZ says, “I am the world!” Or something. 🤷‍♂️
 
Based on Naruto’s statement here and the picture presented, is it implied that the 3rd Raikage is relative to the 4th’s V1 Cloaked Form in speed? 🤔
 
Alexander said:
i still found ridiculous that people think Naruto was gay (or bisexual), or at least there was gay subtext or whatever...am, i am sorry, how?I know that Naruto was obsessed with bringing Sasuke back, but at no point did it feel like it was because he was secretly in love or had minimal romantic feelings, rather it seemed like he wanted to make a friend come back because he cared about his only friend (sorry shikamaru)
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Look Naruto ain't gay or Bi but to say there was never anything showing this is CRAZY work

Kishimoto def at times felt like he wanted to write a yaoi manga lmfao

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mini rant about the wiki

It’s a concern I had that’s been really demotivating me from making CRTs, a lot of the times I’ve noticed people have selective standards when evaluating different things, they’ll say yes to one thing and then reject the other or simply avoid addressing the point, the lack of consistency gets confusing people will either be lenient or needlessly scrutinise things. “authors intent” literally what are we doing? Why’s that magically relevant now? Why’s author intent not brought up in the 7000 other CRTs, Calcs, do people not get the fact that death of the author/multiple interpretations can exist, you can’t even gauge what they think, it’s all assumptions

For context this rant was born from me pondering about my last crt, Isshiki wasn’t able to scale above First Gate Kakashi’s 50c cuz he doesn’t use it enough, which is a poor reason because it doesn’t take away from Kakashi having gates it just means he has better alternatives or doesn’t feel like it’s substantial of a buff, Isshiki being above the hypothetical version of Kakashi logically passes but it got rejected because mods simply “disagree” How are you gonna be okay with Kakashi getting 50c and Isshiki being lower despite him being superior to the whole verse, Shibai can be theoretically above uzuhiko and ETSO even tho there’s no author statements simply cuz the logic is sound, why can’t the same apply here?

Why not remove rasengan barrage and asura avatar, Naruto doesn’t use them ever after first use, there should be no reason for us to index the MAS using those multipliers by their logic, why not stop the dragon ball verse from using speed multiplier chains in super since the multipliers are decades old. Why does it stop being true after a few years? Does everything in a large running shonen need to be repeated for people to accept them as truth?
“If you want your verse to scale high just make better arguments” what the point? When people can be hypocritical and ignorant during evaluation
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
It’s a concern I had that’s been really demotivating me from making CRTs, a lot of the times I’ve noticed people have selective standards when evaluating different things, they’ll say yes to one thing and then reject the other or simply avoid addressing the point, the lack of consistency gets confusing people will either be lenient or needlessly scrutinise things
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I agree tbh

might be a hot take but I'm still of the opinion of MAS scaling above ETSO due to that one statement, and I still very much disagree with the scrutiny used against it. it's easy for someone to say you only feel that way bc majority staff disagree, but as someone who's made a couple of CRTs for the verse (although tame comparatively), I still see that.

In regards to the Kakashi multiplier scaling to Isshiki, I don't remember my stance within that thread but I definitely agree with you there. I don't see why we don't accept that for Isshiki yet we currently index multipliers for Boruto Era Naruto which he hasn't used most of em since the War Arc. Just because it's more recent doesn't make it more valid than the other.

Similarly, while I do think Uzuhiko is a cap (as in, it is the "strongest" move we've seen in the series but in terms of DC, isn't even the strongest thanks to the ETSO), I HEAVILY disagree with how I've seen alot of people argue it as a cap. I can go on with this topic specifically but Uzuhiko arguments are a drag and it's been done too many times before, and ultimately I don't disagree with Uzuhiko being a cap so to keep the peace I keep it to myself.
 
Nierre said:
I agree tbh

might be a hot take but I'm still of the opinion of MAS scaling above ETSO due to that one statement, and I still very much disagree with the scrutiny used against it. it's easy for someone to say you only feel that way bc majority staff disagree, but as someone who's made a couple of CRTs for the verse (although tame comparatively), I still see that.

In regards to the Kakashi multiplier scaling to Isshiki, I don't remember my stance within that thread but I definitely agree with you there. I don't see why we don't accept that for Isshiki yet we currently index multipliers for Boruto Era Naruto which he hasn't used most of em since the War Arc. Just because it's more recent doesn't make it more valid than the other.

Similarly, while I do think Uzuhiko is a cap (as in, it is the "strongest" move we've seen in the series but in terms of DC, isn't even the strongest thanks to the ETSO), I HEAVILY disagree with how I've seen alot of people argue it as a cap. I can go on with this topic specifically but Uzuhiko arguments are a drag and it's been done too many times before, and ultimately I don't disagree with Uzuhiko being a cap so to keep the peace I keep it to myself.
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Maybe I should re attempt it someday, since aside 4 people everyone else fully agreed with the Isshiki stuff

And pin opposers to provide solid reasoning, even if I don’t get a yes it’ll be an example of ignorance and hypocritical judgement
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Why not remove rasengan barrage and asura avatar
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Personally I think it'd make a lot more sense for the profiles from an aesthetic point of view to only have mention of those in the actual keys where he uses them, but I doubt that'd be a popular take for most people.

It's like in the powers section, we don't repeat the powers every single time in a new tab for a new form that the character has already, because we know the character already has them so they don't need to be repeated.
 
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