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Finally, you have no proof that Kurenai is even stronger than these four, who included the clan head.
I saw a scan that said the 4 strongest Jonin in Konoha were Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai, but I don't remember if it was in a databook or an anime fanbook or something.
You can't prove that Konan will "definitely" come into her range.
Konoha had also gotten close to a Jonin to get information.
Thirdly, Aburame clan Shinobi are utterly broken due to their abilities. It's not really about physical stats here.
I can agree with this

Whereas Konan has a feat that's easily Class M to Class G. (And that calc isn't even complete given it doesn't account for the water she split, so it's likely much higher)
I don't know how accurate it is to measure his LS based on the papers he carries on his body. It has to do with his technique of making his body consist of paper. Also, before he completely covers Kurenai's body and crushes her, she can take him in genjutsu. Even if his genjutsu range is not enough, he can try to get close to her for range.
It's simple. Kurenai has no LS feats whatsoever. And no relevant LS scaling either.
Since he's a Jonin, wouldn't he at least be above Part1 Choji and Shippuden's beginning Base Naruto? I think Kurenai should at least have Class M LS too.
 
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I didn't knew Kishimoto was also a MinatoSparkle fan
 
@MinatoSparkle i think your interpretation of >> sign is different than the rest of us. For me what qualifies for >> is V2 jigen and pre Baryon mode Naruto or Sasuke.
Asides jura I don't think any of the shinju qualifies for that kind of superiority over code individually. They are stronger than him sure but it's not as overwhelming as you think. For now sha
 
@MinatoSparkle i think your interpretation of >> sign is different than the rest of us. For me what qualifies for >> is V2 jigen and pre Baryon mode Naruto or Sasuke.
Asides jura I don't think any of the shinju qualifies for that kind of superiority over code individually. They are stronger than him sure but it's not as overwhelming as you think. For now sha
MinatoSparkle already compared >> to a specific transformation iirc
 
I THINK it was CS2
That means he thinks the shinju blitz and one shot code?

Side note: if we are ever going to have a sage mode multiplier it's either gonna come from explanation of mitsuki perfect sage mode or KK and boruto training shenanigans
 
That means he thinks the shinju blitz and one shot code?

Side note: if we are ever going to have a sage mode multiplier it's either gonna come from explanation of mitsuki perfect sage mode or KK and boruto training shenanigans
Who said CM2 people blitz and one shot base people?
 
When sasuke first used CM1 he was blitzing everyone there.
1. Zaku reacted to him when he attacked linearly
2. This is assuming that they scale to Base 2T Sasuke
Also sakon is not perfect. There is a reason he doesn't even get a speed boost.. I don't really remember the 3T Sasuke point
Who said he doesn't get a speed boost???? He very blatantly does.

CM2 Sasuke~1T Naruto, and 3T Sasuke could react to and withstand some of 1T Naruto's attacks
 
1. Zaku reacted to him when he attacked linearly
2. This is assuming that they scale to Base 2T Sasuke

Who said he doesn't get a speed boost???? He very blatantly does.

CM2 Sasuke~1T Naruto, and 3T Sasuke could react to and withstand some of 1T Naruto's attacks
1. He reacted to projectiles from far away. That does nothing for combat speed.
2. They are or else lee would have perception blitz them. Dude also fought Sasuke in the chunin exams just fine. Plus they were picked by orochimaro. I don't think they were below Sasuke.
3. He's faster than I thought ≠ he got faster. And even if i give you that like i said he was imperfect.
4. Have I forgotten that fight? Did Sasuke fight 1T Naruto or did Naruto jut make a rasengan and he clashed in v2?
 
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1. He reacted to projectiles from far away. That does nothing for combat speed.
Projectiles are part of combat speed.
2. They are or else lee would have perception blitz them. Dude also fought Sasuke in the chunin exams just fine. Plus they were picked by orochimaro. I don't think they were below Sasuke.
FoD Sasuke>Lee fight Sasuke

That's pretty arbitrary
3. He's faster than I thought ≠ he got faster. And even if i give you that like i said he was imperfect.
I mean this is after Kiba's already fought Base Sakon so it kinda does.

Even if it's imperfect, do you think Sasuke's CM1 is a bigger boost than Sakon's CM2?
4. Have I forgotten that fight? Did Sasuke fight 1T Naruto or did Naruto jut make a rasengan and he clashed in v2?
Their clash is what shows relativity
Goatys, where the hell can i find the fanbooks? More specifically Kai no sho
 
I call this next bit "Raikage with a dead brother":

"You know, we lost our Jinchuuriki a while back. He was attacked, and left bleeding out on the street. He kept yelling 'A, be positive' but it's hard without him."
 
Just checked CBR's (One of those article that have terrible lists in my opinion) "10 Strongest Boruto Manga Characters, Ranked"... Having not read the manga, I want to hear what you guys think of the list they made and if it's accurate (Or even remotely close).

10. Himawari

9. Kashin

8. Mitsuki

7. Eida

6. Kawaki

5. Code

4. Ryu

3. Daemon

2. Boruto

1. Jura
 
Just checked CBR's (One of those article that have terrible lists in my opinion) "10 Strongest Boruto Manga Characters, Ranked"... Having not read the manga, I want to hear what you guys think of the list they made and if it's accurate (Or even remotely close).

10. Himawari

9. Kashin

8. Mitsuki

7. Eida

6. Kawaki

5. Code

4. Ryu

3. Daemon

2. Boruto

1. Jura
Surprisingly accurate.
 
I don't wanna hear how naruto has one of the worst endings ever, after all the shit I've read this year
 
I saw a scan that said the 4 strongest Jonin in Konoha were Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai, but I don't remember if it was in a databook or an anime fanbook or something.
That could be a pretty interesting statement if you can find it. Doesn't really change anything in regards to Konan v Kurenai tho.
Konoha had also gotten close to a Jonin to get information.
Uh, yes, because she was getting intel on Naruto's location. It's not necessarily how she behaves in an actual fight.
I can agree with this
Coolio
I don't know how accurate it is to measure his LS based on the papers he carries on his body. It has to do with his technique of making his body consist of paper.
I never said she scales physically that high, it'd be her LS with her Paper abilities.
Also, before he completely covers Kurenai's body and crushes her, she can take him in genjutsu. Even if his genjutsu range is not enough, he can try to get close to her for range.
Konan will one-shot her long before she can get close lmao
Since he's a Jonin, wouldn't he at least be above Part1 Choji and Shippuden's beginning Base Naruto?
Why would she scale to them in LS? Also base Naruto's not a great example since he has ASS LS.
I think Kurenai should at least have Class M LS too.
Doubtful.
 
Projectiles are part of combat speed.

FoD Sasuke>Lee fight Sasuke

That's pretty arbitrary

I mean this is after Kiba's already fought Base Sakon so it kinda does.

Even if it's imperfect, do you think Sasuke's CM1 is a bigger boost than Sakon's CM2?

Their clash is what shows relativity

1. Projectile gives you ample time to dodge stuff several times faster than you when thrown from a distance. Also projectile speed is not movement speed. It can be slower or faster. Not to mention Sasuke plan there was to decieve him
2. He got better reactions from the sharingan. Nothing notable about his combat speed.
3. He's faster than I thought can also mean i underestimated his speed, he might even get a slight boost and it would change nothing
4. In terms of speed probably. I didn't really see any notable speed amp for them.
5. V2 clased with 1T. Where did 3tomoe get into the mix?
 
Just checked CBR's (One of those article that have terrible lists in my opinion) "10 Strongest Boruto Manga Characters, Ranked"... Having not read the manga, I want to hear what you guys think of the list they made and if it's accurate (Or even remotely close).

10. Himawari

9. Kashin

8. Mitsuki

7. Eida

6. Kawaki

5. Code

4. Ryu

3. Daemon

2. Boruto

1. Jura
It’s a meh list but at least there’s no Shippuden characters copium like you’d expect from those websites

Shibai should be 1 unless this list is only alive characters (which you might be able to argue he technically is)

The 1, 2, and 3 in this list can be bumped down for Baryon Mode Naruto and Isshiki depending on who you ask since their scaling is in a vacuum.

4-7 should be the other Shinju, Ryu is already here so it’s just missing Hidari, Mamushi, and Matsuri.

Eida > Code and Kawaki tbh, she’s got way better hax even if she’s got no physical feats (basically Discount Hogyoku), other than that they’re fine where they are.

We don’t know how strong current Koji is but he could end up here, especially since he could awaken his own shinjutsu (his can see all possible futures) and will likely be important to the story moving forward.

Mitsuki and Himawari don’t belong on this kinda list yet.
 
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