Tell yourself whatever you have to.
Except it doesn’t and you wouldn’t be able to factually produce 1 instance of it, but by all means, prove me wrong. All you need is 1.
Yeah ok. Now go back to sticking your head in the sand and let the big boys finish talking~
You see… you’re saying he “lost” that form, but that’s not quite true. It was never implied or stated he lost it after the Sasuke fight. He just hasn’t used it. The argument can be made that w/o Kurama he lost that specific cloak as it has always indicated when all Biju Chakra, sure. SPC/SPSJ is honestly used interchangeably in the war.
I mean… he’s using “Kurama Chakra Mode”, that was never questioned… you’re simply ignoring “+” eyes w or w/o Pigmentation is not just “Kurama Mode”.anyway for fun.
The Chibi Boruto manga calls the form Kurama Chakra Mode
The Anime Design Sheets call it Kurama Chakra Mode
The Manga and Anime guides call it Kurama Mode/Kurama Chakra Mode
The games call it Kurama Chakra mode
Naruto Retsuden
"雲の奥から、回転する風の塊が無数に落ちてきて、百はあろうかという土くれや木端を同時に粉砕した。あっという間だ。 風の動きが生む真空が、砕けたかけら破片を巻き取り圧縮して、欠片ひとつ落とさずに吸収していく。ふうとんおおだませんがん大玉螺旋丸七代目火影の得意とする風遁技の一つだ。「なんだ.........ナルトもいたのかよ。心配いらねーじゃん」キバが、空を見上げて、肩の力を抜いた。雲の切れ目から、太陽の欠片かと思うような明るい光が落ちてきて、火影岩きゆうびみずか九尾のチャクラを自らのものとして操る、最強の戦闘形九尾のチャクラモードのルトだ。
"九尾のチャクラモード = Nine tails chakra mode
From beyond the clouds, masses of swirling winds descended, pulverizing countless clods of earth and wood chips in what seemed like a hundred instances simultaneously. It happened in the blink of an eye. The vacuum created by the movement of the wind compressed and absorbed every shattered fragment without dropping a single piece.
This technique, called "Fuuton: Ōdama Rasengan" (Wind Release: Big Ball Rasengan), is a specialty of the Seventh Hokage, Naruto Uzumaki.
"What... Naruto was here too? No need to worry then," Kiba said, looking up at the sky and relaxing his shoulders.
Through a break in the clouds, bright sunlight fell, resembling fragments of the sun, onto the Hokage Rock.
This is the ultimate combat form, where one manipulates the chakra of the Nine-Tails as their own, known as the Nine-Tails Chakra Mode.
But Hey thats just me.
Umm lmfao
no it doesnt?, Senjutsu is combining chakra and nature energy, in the same way mixing primarily colors may give you something different, baryon is the equivalent of.........take a guess.... Nuclear fusion
Reword this, i have legit no idea what your saying lol
i dont have an interpretation im literally just telling you whats stated and whats told to us, your the one filling in the gaps with information thats omitted
SPSM is also expressively portrayed with 9 magatama, human colored skin and very specific markings for his torso, but i guess we only count design changes when it suits us.
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there is, we just ignore them by rationalizing our own ideas to make it work, the form is called six paths sage mode but is somehow is called Kurama mode by everyone else, but of course the creators totally mean Kurama mode+Six Paths sage mode but just decide to call it Kurama mode for reasons. Airtight logic.
because the people who work on these stories and products say otherwise
uhhh yeah they do.
no everytime its been used in the new era its been called sage mode lmfao, what you talking about
so your basically substituting reality for your own?
take up with the writers not me.
Ok can you show the term
Yeah
There are also people who can very easily write those novels, but struggle to get through lifting bags of concrete.
Yapping not gonna do much when mods close the thread instantly
Nine tails Chakra Mode, its all Kurama mode lmfao, the only difference is it mentions the use of sage mode in its description.
I wish they'd close this thread.
Uh, he doesn't use 6PSM in The Last, no one was arguing that.
then that just means your conclusion itself is wrong
So there isn’t an actual term for when his stacking modes. If that’s the case then the databooks just calling it kurama mode doesn’t change anything. Especially when it’s clear that his using SPSM on top of it
Is that what you call getting railed on all fronts? Sad. Maybe try less confirmation bias next time.
I never said he did, someone was asking what the description of his BSM says
Right, even when you have things like parallel dimension that use the term isekai which can mean world/Universe and in that context world could mean a planet but clearly the dimension is bigger then just a planet and called a huper/subspace. They will ignor this and just close the thread, plus my debate with you on Universal nard, you were using evey single excuse imaginable to try and make nard not uni even if it's goes against fact
No can do
No I asked for the official term the databooks use when naruto stacks sage mode on top of kcm. You haven’t really shown me that
that's not the problem. In fiction an isekai is most commonly used for dimension, any dimension in fact. it needn't be universal in size at all. ditto for hyperspace/subspace, hyperspace in fiction are a warp space used to traverse dimensions whereas subspaces in fiction usually refers to smaller dimensions. There's a few exception such the Hyperdimension in Saint Seiya or the Crack of Time in DBH but they're the exceptions and you actually have substantial evidence for them being huge
no I just didnt care to engage seriously in the debate because the conclusion really was ridiculous. A good analogy I like to use is blocking people on social media. sometimes if someone blocks it doesnt mean you "won" anything it can often mean that they thought you werent worth their time, that's precisely what that "debate" was for me.
which is what I sent, its Kurama Mode with an explanation of him using sage mode in its description, which is omitted when he isnt using sage mode
No you didn’t, I don’t care about the description I want an official name for when he uses both forms
except for the part where he stacks a cloak ontop of six paths sage mode and its called six paths sage mode. but okay lol
I don't believe so, it's just generally referred to as Kurama Mode and Sage Mode or smthn
I agree it's strange, but I don't think it's set in stone enough to just ignore the obvious signs that he still has SPSM. Also wdym it's not previously called Kurama Mode?
Yeah it's an inbetween of him flaring up SPSM then KM, I don't see how that helps your argument?
There's no reason for him to hold it back if he still has it, especially at times when he's in a losing position. Also we know that some of the Bijuu aren't actively with him in Boruto (too lazy to find the scene rn but it's some anime thing where the Bijuu gather and one of them isn't there iirc)
How does it mean that necessarily? Is Momoshiki>Kaguya wrong since previously when there were threads about it they were closed immediately?
so you dont care about critical information that described what the form is lmfao?
Six paths sage mode are when his eyes change color and pupils. Kyubi cloak is its own thing as you’ve made clear before hand
ah ok
when he applies the cloak to that form its still called six paths sage mode
it's just for translation purposes where isekai can mean world/Universe
It can also mean that the dimensions has an extra dimension like time making it a time-space and nard compared the dimension directly to kaguyas make this the more likely interpretation that the author wanted to make it clear that its a time- space
People don't like the thought of nard going above planetary and you think they will let him be universal, there is quit a bit of bias on this wiki against nard and DBZ. Anyways there is no point in continuing this. Be rest assured that I am not posting a Uni nard CRT anytime soon.
From what I’ve seen your main argument has been that the databooks constantly call hokage Naruto’s form kurama chakra mode and not sage of six paths or whatever. So I’d image the name of the form would be quite important
Then what’s the name of the form before that?
the issue is that its contradicted by every available source we have, which also lists sage mode with his kurama mode not six paths sage mode, six paths sage mode is never mentioned anywhere ever across multiple different mediums, the only reason why we think he has six paths sage mode is because of incredulity
not an between of him of using transformations, im talking about about an inbetween animation cut. i think your misunderstanding me, ill post some examples in a wee bit.
no isekai almost never refers to universe unless there is already substantial evidence of that dimension being universe sized. It just refers to a parallel world of any size, that's all. there is no translation issue here. Uchuu is the only correct word for universe.
no, that "interpretation" is the real, scientific interpretation, not the one used in fiction. And once again if you do wanna go with that interpretation you're gonna have to provide other, more substantial evidence for it being a higher dimensional space than just being called a word thats often thrown around in fiction. any dimension IS a space time unless contradicted but it doesnt mean anything here on its own.
many people here dont like the idea of Goku being above solar system level either. @Veronica is notorious for constantly trying (and failing miserably) to downgrade base Goku from 2-C to 4-B and she's attempted it over 5 times by now. as I said, if the evidence was substantial and enough for the wiki, it would've been accepted one of the countless many times someone before you (and I promise you many did) tried to make that CRT
I never said the name isnt important, i said that a description is equally important because it gives context. now who is strawmanning who
Six Paths Sage Mode, its all six paths sage mode, whether he gets a cloak or is in base his name stays the same.
I’m just basing this off of what I replied to but whatever
Ok then why do his eyes still look like SPSM?
Which is again why I called it strange. But my interpretation of that to keep things consistent with what we see of Sage Mode and Kurama Sage Mode otherwise is that it's referring to Sage Mode indeed, but not Toad Sage Mode and rather Six Paths Sage Mode. Either that or it's just inconsistent.
Just to be sure we're talking about the same scene, you mean this?
If you are gonna go of fiction like you say for hyperspace then that should hold true for parallel dimension which are often considered as parallel universe in fiction
Yea if the proof is enough that they can't ignore it, like feats that go like affecting and stuff, then they can't just ignore it or else they will be called out for it.
Thats fine im not saying you cant interpret stuff to be more consistent, im just laying down the facts of what we are told and what we are told is that its kurama mode+ sage mode, not six paths sage mode but sage mode, saying they meant something else is head canon, if they wanted to say six paths sage mode they would have, given the form is brought up in Boruto they very well know what that form is and how to write it.
no the the original Kanji goes even one step further by very much isolating the two forms, i didnt bring it up earlier in the original post because i didnt think it was necessary when the English seems pretty clear cut to me.
no its definitely Incredulity, because the source of this reasoning is to avoid inconsistency or amend things you dont believe in and that largely stems from "why wouldnt it be six paths mode"
