Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Shadyboi0]

Kakuzu really got exiled for failing the very simple task of assassinating Hashirama. Shit's so unfair lmao.

Guess that just makes Hashirama High 6-A then

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Is the Chou-Odama Rasengan > Rasengan Barrage for Scaling purposes?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ngl, this is a disingenuous take when these characters can walk on water, walk up vertical surfaces and leap dozens of meters in a single instance, at least. There is no good faith argument that supports terrain and obstacles being a factor in anyway. So no, terrain and obstacles that would impede normal travel for irl humans is not a factor here that should be seriously entertained.

1) these calcs aren’t calcing Shinobi running on water, 2) never do we see Shinobi leaping over forests and mountains best we see is them leaping from branches. All of that means that bumps and hills and valleys in the terrain are still going to affect the distance traveled. It is just objectively not a straight line there’s nothing disingenuous about it.

Except, if we’re being honest, there are none that aren’t arbitrarily based on incredulous thinking. There is no wank or lying involved in stating Naruto and Co travelled to another country in 60 hrs while moving at FTE speeds and that Ninja do take rests. That is literally what is shown. The only way you get results that aren’t high is when you actively downplay, but that’s par for the course, right?

Never did I contest that the ninjas are fast. I’m not addressing this strawman.

Nor are they going out of their way without inventing some headcanon obstacle they can’t bypass with their most basic skill sets.

Great so you agree they’re not going in a straight line and would rather have to go around the obstacle in some manner. Which I never said they couldn’t get around the obstacles. However, that just inherently means that the assumption of a flat straight line of travel is just poor and wrong.

I mean, you can feel however you want about them, but that doesn’t make you right about it. Yes, some calcs are more correct than others, but that’s with all calcs.

I’m correct here tho so we can skip the generalizations.

Not to mention you’re putting out really shitty energy over this, and it’s not that serious.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

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[Ryzen7900X]

if I were you I’d downgrade the verse to 6-C out of spite for an insult like that

 

[Stryker861]

Arc couldent downgrade the verse to 6c if he wanted to

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I’m not the boogie man I’m the person who got this verse to 5-A before the UES removal for Naruto came in which begged SPCT scaling. Alongside Slayer’s debunk of the SPCT timeframe. Relax you goons, I’m not coming for the verse

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Relax you goons, I’m not coming for the verse. Yet.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I’m really vibin with this shinsui guy, I sure hope nothing tragic happens to him

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Who’s gonna tell him?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I’m the boogie man

 

[KingogKings777]

In a funny society, both of them will be forced to engage in a debate about whether Nard is moon level, and the loser will be banned.

Gimmie one feat that Naruto has putting on moon level without using over inflated calcs and made up numbers or out of pocket statements.

 

[KingogKings777]

I’m not the boogie man I’m the person who got this verse to 5-A before the UES removal for Naruto came in which begged SPCT scaling. Alongside Slayer’s debunk of the SPCT timeframe. Relax you goons, I’m not coming for the verse

You should.

 

[Padaruyos]

Gimmie one feat that Naruto has putting on moon level without using over inflated calcs and made up numbers or out of pocket statements.

Hagoromo creating the moon

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Gimmie one feat that Naruto has putting on moon level without using over inflated calcs and made up numbers or out of pocket statements.

as if calcs and statements are invalid. Give me a galaxy level feat in bleach that isn’t just wanked statements and calcs more inflated than the senjumaru hentai in your incognito tab

 

[KingogKings777]

Hagoromo creating the moon

I said naruto.

 

[KingogKings777]

as if calcs and statements are invalid. Give me a galaxy level feat in bleach that isn’t just wanked statements and calcs more inflated than the senjumaru hentai in your incognito tab

Damn imagine changing the subject now.

 

[TheLav69]

as if calcs and statements are invalid. Give me a galaxy level feat in bleach that isn’t just wanked statements and calcs more inflated than the senjumaru hentai in your incognito tab

The value for the senjumaru feat is a lowball on multiple fronts just so you know

 

[Padaruyos]

I said naruto.

The series or the person?

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

1) these calcs aren’t calcing Shinobi running on water, 2) never do we see Shinobi leaping over forests and mountains best we see is them leaping from branches. All of that means that bumps and hills and valleys in the terrain are still going to affect the distance traveled. It is just objectively not a straight line there’s nothing disingenuous about it.


Never did I contest that the ninjas are fast. I’m not addressing this strawman.


Great so you agree they’re not going in a straight line and would rather have to go around the obstacle in some manner. Which I never said they couldn’t get around the obstacles. However, that just inherently means that the assumption of a flat straight line of travel is just poor and wrong.


I’m correct here tho so we can skip the generalizations.

Sure, if you say so, fam…

 

[KingogKings777]

The series or the person?

The person.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

The person.

Has kurama that can turn the world to ash

 

[KingogKings777]

Has kurama that can turn the world to ash

out of pocket statement not backed up by any feats

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

out of pocket statement not backed up by any feats

Would be backed up if we would consider jubito as planetary

 

[KingogKings777]

Would be backed up if we would consider jubito as planetary

Does he have any planet level feats?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Does he have any planet level feats?

Ten tails absorb chakra from the planet which include it GPE and KE plus its called a world ending beast, and I don't think that narrativly speaking a continent busting ten tails is impressive considering we already have lesser tail beast that can do that.

 

[Avengershows]

Ten tails absorb chakra from the planet which include it GPE and KE plus its called a world ending beast, and I don't think that narrativly speaking a continent busting ten tails is impressive considering we already have lesser tail beast that can do that.

I'm going to be annoying and clueless regarding the intricate details of this series but;
Can't we scale Base Momoshiki to 3x planetary rotational energy?
We know that the planets chakra is linked to it's rotation (since they are equated), and we know that the God Tree's absorb all chakra on a planet and shove it into the god fruit.
Naturally, a planet usually has more than just it's rotational energy, otherwise they'd go after lifeless planets too.
We've 2 planets that were devoured by Momoshiki, and in the first one we see it's already implied that he already ate a fruit before too.
In the anime version (which is an adaptation of the novel, but it differs) we see multiple dead divine trees, which leads me to believe Momoshiki had a dimension where he dumped used up god trees? lol idk
This would lead to something like 150 Exaton Base Momo, 300 Fused, 600 FP Naruto, 1800 Isshiki

 

[SlendVeny]

Gimmie one feat that Naruto has putting on moon level without using over inflated calcs and made up numbers or out of pocket statements.

I'm pretty sure it's stated that he's considered one of the strongest Shinobi ever, making him better than the Sannin, and as we all know, they used to be moon level.

 

[PatatesR]

But in the same scans we see the buildings around them not affected though.

TBB seems to have fallen in the forest area behind Konoha, smoke was rising in the forest area

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I'm going to be annoying and clueless regarding the intricate details of this series but;
Can't we scale Base Momoshiki to 3x planetary rotational energy?
We know that the planets chakra is linked to it's rotation (since they are equated), and we know that the God Tree's absorb all chakra on a planet and shove it into the god fruit.
Naturally, a planet usually has more than just it's rotational energy, otherwise they'd go after lifeless planets too.
We've 2 planets that were devoured by Momoshiki, and in the first one we see it's already implied that he already ate a fruit before too.
In the anime version (which is an adaptation of the novel, but it differs) we see multiple dead divine trees, which leads me to believe Momoshiki had a dimension where he dumped used up god trees? lol idk
This would lead to something like 150 Exaton Base Momo, 300 Fused, 600 FP Naruto, 1800 Isshiki

Thats exactly my point, also didnt momo create his dimension, so should he be atleast star level?

 

[ScalingRandomVerse]

From what I have read they said creating a dimension is not equal to star level.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

From what I have read they said creating a dimension is not equal to star level.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I am no sure either, but if we're to assume the dimension were at first empty then there being stars could mean two things

1. Momoshiki created those stars
2. The dimension was created by a big bang and those stars appeared overtime

 

[PatatesR]

Don't lose hope, guys, one day Boruto will be like this.

 

[HelloThere1089]

From what I know, there is no confirmation that Momoshiki created his dimension. If we had a solid statement about otsutsuki creating their own dimension and the timeframe, we wouldn't be even discussing moon lvl rn lmao.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Don't lose hope, guys, one day Boruto will be like this.

And that day is not in our life time

 

[Padaruyos]

What I kinda wish happened in Shippuden is Kurama/Gyuki attempting to blow up the moon with a Bijuudama to stop Juubito's plan. Possibly 5-C with Bijuudama would be hilarious

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

From what I know, there is no confirmation that Momoshiki created his dimension. If we had a solid statement about otsutsuki creating their own dimension and the timeframe, we wouldn't be even discussing moon lvl rn lmao.

It does say that momo constructed it by can't find the time frame

 

[HelloThere1089]

It does say that momo constructed it by can't find the time frame

Is this the Boruto movie novelization? If so then it's not usable on this site. But you can use that for your personal scaling I guess.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Is this the Boruto movie novelization? If so then it's not usable on this site. But you can use that for your personal scaling I guess.

We may not be able to use the feats in it but that doesn't mean we can't use the others, like the dimension exist and it does say that Momoshiki created, otherwise there is nothing to suggest the he created it be it manga or anime

 

[HelloThere1089]

We may not be able to use the feats in it but that doesn't mean we can't use the others, like the dimension exist and it does say that Momoshiki created, otherwise there is nothing to suggest the he created it be it manga or anime

Make a CRT about that.