Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[AlternativePrinciple]

1. Can you point to a specific episode?

the movie takes place after the five kage summit, but before the war arc and obito was still using his orange mask

2. I am not saying that the combined chakra isn't the highest. I'm asking about the chakra used in an average attack vs chakra used in the universe feat.

if we assume that it took almost all the 7 tail beast chakra to perform this feat. Its apperence during the war arc only made a bubble in the sensory sphere thing, while the ten tails made another sphere that signified its amount of chakra proving that Ten Tails< Gedo statue in terms of chakra capacity, now since the ten tails has ridiculous amount of chakra compared to the geto statue we can compare their tail beast bombs cuase they are just pure chakra. The tail beats bomb made the tail tails dawrfs the one made by other tail beast together and the ten tails does that cassully

 

[HelloThere1089]

if we assume that it took almost all the 7 tail beast chakra to perform this feat. Its apperence during the war arc only made a bubble in the sensory sphere thing, while the ten tails made another sphere that signified its amount of chakra proving that Ten Tails< Gedo statue in terms of chakra capacity, now since the ten tails has ridiculous amount of chakra compared to the geto statue we can compare their tail beast bombs cuase they are just pure chakra. The tail beats bomb made the tail tails dawrfs the one made by other tail beast together and the ten tails does that cassully

Wouldn't you then have to prove that chakra of all 7 tailed beasts <= chakra in TBB by other tailed beasts? I don't understand how you made that connection.

From what I understand so far:
Chakra from the geto statue is way less than chakra from ten tails on the sensing sphere.

Do we have a scene where it is shown that a TBB from ten tails has more chakra than the entire geto statue?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Ghetto Statue

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I can't wait for the Low 2-C Juubi anime profile thread

 

[HelloThere1089]

Tailed Beast Balls

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I can't wait for the Low 2-C Juubi anime profile thread

Preparing for the Low 2-C Nard Anime Profiles Thread​

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Do we have a scene where it is shown that a TBB from ten tails has more chakra than the entire geto statue?

during ep384 4:46 the ten tails begun to shoot its first TBB which caused the Ten tails sensory sphere to violently shake either because of how much chakra was being concentrated as a sphere or that the sensory sphere was not able show how much chakra was there. Plus TBB are considered as the strongest attack that a tail beasts has and the amount of damage is directly tied to how much destrution that it causes

 

[HelloThere1089]

during ep384 4:46 the ten tails begun to shoot its first TBB which caused the Ten tails sensory sphere to violently shake either because of how much chakra was being concentrated as a sphere or that the sensory sphere was not able show how much chakra was there. Plus TBB are considered as the strongest attack that a tail beasts has and the amount of damage is directly tied to how much destrution that it causes

I'mma check this out later and then reply.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

also found the stongest forbidden jutsu

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

I really think it’s a missed opportunity to not have Konohamaru as the interim Hokage instead of Shikamaru. Despite his gaffes, it can be argued Konohamaru is stronger than Shikamaru imo and it’s a narrative pay-off from part 1 Naruto.

And from. Writing standpoint, you can’t just job the Kage without giving them a moment to show why they hold the title. Just like against Kinshiki and Momoshiki. Yes, they eventually got jobbed, but not before they got a little hype.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Konohamaru is 99 cent store Gohan sadly so no can do

 

[HelloThere1089]

Shikamaru's position as hokage is also a narrative payoff from part 1 which I would argue, holds more significance than Konohamaru's. And if we are talking about who deserves the post, I think a Hokage needs to be at least either the strongest or the smartest. There is no point in making Konohamaru the Hokage if there are stronger eligible people present. So I think going with the smartest dude who has experience in politics makes sense and has helped out a lot in TBV. Even in NNG, Shikamaru is the reason why the village is still in it's place. Konohamaru has legit done nothing in the entirety of NNG to warrant the position of Hokage. So disagree. If you wanna say he should have been written accordingly then that's a separate conversation.

 

[ssgengar]

I can't wait for the Low 2-C Juubi anime profile thread

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Don't forget your Tactical Knife

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I really think it’s a missed opportunity to not have Konohamaru as the interim Hokage instead of Shikamaru. Despite his gaffes, it can be argued Konohamaru is stronger than Shikamaru imo and it’s a narrative pay-off from part 1 Naruto.

And from. Writing standpoint, you can’t just job the Kage without giving them a moment to show why they hold the title. Just like against Kinshiki and Momoshiki. Yes, they eventually got jobbed, but not before they got a little hype.

konohamaru as hokage would be suited more for a EOS Boruto thing, i think him becoming hokage off screen would go against Konohamaru's initial arc of there being no shortcuts to hokage

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Shikamaru's position as hokage is also a narrative payoff from part 1 which I would argue, holds more significance than Konohamaru's.

Shikamaru has no Hokage implications going back to part 1 Naruto. And even his Temari statement doesn’t make its significance more important. It doesn’t become more significant until the Blank Period Novels, which 95% of the Franchise Fanbase hasn’t even read or is aware of Kakashi’s efforts with Shikamaru.

And if we are talking about who deserves the post, I think a Hokage needs to be at least either the strongest or the smartest.

Well we know how the process works. Naruto “could’ve” been selected as Hokage after the Pain Arc in an alternate world, based on what was being said in that meeting with the Daimyo. So if Strength or Intelligence were your guiding factors, Kakashi wouldn’t likely be Hokage at that point, even w/o Danzou Shenanigans. You’d be looking at Naruto or Shikaku for example.

Not saying the case for Kakashi wouldn’t make more sense, but the conversation is more nuanced than just the strongest or the smartest deserves the post, because that’s not the case necessarily.

There is no point in making Konohamaru the Hokage if there are stronger eligible people present.

It’s more nuanced than that. Via In-verse standards, with his reputation, lineage, etc, we all know Konohamaru would be a eligible Kage candidate, among others. He has shown that he has the strength and mentality of the Kage tier (Now how people break that down into Low, Mid or High is up for debate). Now imo, which is a separate thing obviously, it makes more since to have Shikamaru remain as an adviser and have Konohamaru as the Kage and that pays off initial inciting rivalry/gag going all the way to part one.

So I think going with the smartest dude who has experience in politics makes sense and has helped out a lot in TBV. Even in NNG, Shikamaru is the reason why the village is still in it's place.

That’s fine. Shikamaru would obviously be a Kage candidate with Naruto gone and that was certainly built up within the Franchise and it would be a logical choice applying irl logic, but you could honestly make the case for Shikamaru being Kage over Naruto as well, despite his strength. Same goes for Tobirama over Hashirama, if we want to adhere strictly to irl logic.

From a writing standpoint, If I know I have a significant time skip coming up and I know what’s been set up before, I can see myself making Konohamaru the Hokage with Shikamaru as his adviser. I think that’s the better pay-off as opposed to the opposite we have now (Kage Shikamaru w/ Adviser Konohamaru).

And any inefficiencies Konohamaru had prior to the Time Skip can easily and sensibly be written off as motivation from Naruto’s supposed “death” and training during the timeskip. In a situation like this, you wouldn’t be writing the Hokage as a jobber anyways without some level of narrative protection for the position they hold. It’s honestly like wrestling booking…

Konohamaru has legit done nothing in the entirety of NNG to warrant the position of Hokage.

That doesn’t matter as much. In-universe we know he has a significant reputation and we know it has been narratively built in since part 1 Naruto.

I don’t believe you would literally say you do not see any reason for Konohamaru being Kage over Shikamaru from a creative standpoint… and hey, if you do then so be it. That’s fair but we’ll have to disagree.

If you wanna say he should have been written accordingly then that's a separate conversation.

That’s not necessary. There is more than enough built in to his character to have justified it from a creative standpoint.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

konohamaru as hokage would be suited more for a EOS Boruto thing, i think him becoming hokage off screen would go against Konohamaru's initial arc of there being no shortcuts to hokage

It wouldn’t be a shortcut though. We know thanks to the pain arc how the Hokage Selection process is. Naruto is missing, presumed dead at the time that new Hokage Selection meeting would have taken place.

Dude also literally took Naruto’s moment… Having him become Hokage over the timeskip off-screen would’ve been fine i’d think.

And I mean… depending on how far EoS goes… all I am saying is, I wouldn’t want to be a Tsunade Age Kage in my freshman year as Kage. Especially with my Student in her prime and likely stronger than me having had that same dream.

 

[ssgengar]

Don't forget your Tactical Knife

I’m done being tactical

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I’m done being tactical

AK-AA-100... 100 millimeters of pure commie red

 

[RenderGK]

I can't wait for the Low 2-C Juubi anime profile thread

mmm, it will be fun

 

[Nierre]

Easy clear

Isshiki is the hardest one because Code wouldn't fight Isshiki at all, and would likely just team up on Boruto with Isshiki, which in that case I don't see Boruto winning, especially considering it's unlikely Boruto would use his Kama mark. If we assume Code teams up with Boruto and doesn't switch up, they got it.

 

[Nierre]

Also Konohamaru ******* sucks. There's in no world he could've become Hokage. EoS maybe (much like Kakashi), but definitely not now.

Unlike Naruto, even if they're not the smartest tools in the shed, Konohamaru doesn't have the versatility or abilities to take up the mantle Naruto's left behind. Shikamaru has worked incredibly closely with Naruto so it's only natural he'd replace Naruto, and he may not be the strongest or have the biggest bag, but he has far more battle and strategical experience (having fought in a war), and is just farrrr smarter than Konohamaru.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Y’all some hateful ass mfs…

 

[HelloThere1089]

Nierre came in guns blazing lmao.

 

[Nierre]

**** Konohamaru!

All My [Nice People] Hate Konohamaru!

 

[Shadyboi0]

Also Konohamaru ******* sucks. There's in no world he could've become Hokage. EoS maybe (much like Kakashi), but definitely not now.

Unlike Naruto, even if they're not the smartest tools in the shed, Konohamaru doesn't have the versatility or abilities to take up the mantle Naruto's left behind. Shikamaru has worked incredibly closely with Naruto so it's only natural he'd replace Naruto, and he may not be the strongest or have the biggest bag, but he has far more battle and strategical experience (having fought in a war), and is just farrrr smarter than Konohamaru.

Straight facts.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Y’all got me in here looking crazy trying to “big up” Konohamaru w/ no support!

Damn…

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

studio Pierrot might just genuinely be fucken stupid

imagine establishing a new studio for "better quality" and then moving some of your best staff members off of a dozen projects anyway.

 

[SlendVeny]

"His utmost strength"
"Naruto releases all of his strength"
"Naruto unleashes his ultimate strength"

He's weaker than when he fought Sasuke, still 7-B

 

[SlendVeny]

Probably top 5 in the series

It's like the 4th or 5th hardest Ninia Storm fight, too.

 

[SlendVeny]

Y’all got me in here looking crazy trying to “big up” Konohamaru w/ no support!

Damn…

Lil K is goated, but he ain't Shikamaru.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

He's weaker than when he fought Sasuke, still 7-B

I don't have a problem with that, but I don't really think it's that concrete either as there's no real statement about how strong he is

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

recent japanese poll

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

recent japanese poll

What was the prompt? “Fav. WSJ Female Character?”

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

recent japanese poll

Jolyne W. Seeing her at no.1 is pleasing. What's the poll on tho?

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

Ichigo is one lucky mf

 

[Sasukesama0492]

recent japanese poll

Rukia should be 1st

 

[HelloThere1089]

It's prolly a popularity poll. Whatever is the most popular should be 1st.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It's prolly a popularity poll. Whatever is the most popular should be 1st.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

What was the prompt? “Fav. WSJ Female Character?”

yeah most popular