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Not much of a difference given that Base Lee and Guy are equal to each other.Found it (Chapter 521). It was Lee, not Gai, and they were the aggressors. Kakashi, Gai and Lee were in a defensive position.
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Not much of a difference given that Base Lee and Guy are equal to each other.Found it (Chapter 521). It was Lee, not Gai, and they were the aggressors. Kakashi, Gai and Lee were in a defensive position.
Lee has a lower level of Eyebrow Force.Not much of a difference given that Base Lee and Guy are equal to each other.
Drunk Lee without Post-Surgery Nerf and which version of Sasuke?Who wins, Drunk Lee or 3T Sasuke
Just the version that fought Kimimaro and the one that fought KM0 NarutoDrunk Lee without Post-Surgery Nerf and which version of Sasuke?
I mean that and 1T Naruto are the only versions of Naruto he fought. He was in 2T the whole time Naruto was in base.Should probably go to Sasuke
Wasn't he trading blows with Kn0 Naruto at that point?
Do we even have Lee's Drunken Fist amp on his profile?Just the version that fought Kimimaro and the one that fought KM0 Naruto
I mean that and 1T Naruto are the only versions of Naruto he fought. He was in 2T the whole time Naruto was in base.
To be fair, Drunk Lee overwhelmed Base Kimimaro who fought KM0 Naruto, but that was a weaker KM0 Naruto.
1. It is for speed, but he's not treated as scaling to Kimimaro in APDo we even have Lee's Drunken Fist amp on his profile?
That's weird.1. It is for speed, but he's not treated as scaling to Kimimaro in AP
I think Sasuke wins, that precog and fighting style mimicry is a deadly combo, especially when Sasuke is already more the fine with stealing moves from Lee.2. I'm just asking in general, not with site stats
Ah, but is not the whole point of Drunken Fist that it's unpredictable?That's weird.
I think Sasuke wins, that precog and fighting style mimicry is a deadly combo, especially when Sasuke is already more the fine with stealing moves from Lee.
I argued for Lee scaling in the P1 AP thread but sadly didn't succeedThat's weird.
FairI think Sasuke wins, that precog and fighting style mimicry is a deadly combo, especially when Sasuke is already more the fine with stealing moves from Lee.
How so? He was more enraged than at any point otherwise.Just the version that fought Kimimaro and the one that fought KM0 Naruto
I mean that and 1T Naruto are the only versions of Naruto he fought. He was in 2T the whole time Naruto was in base.
To be fair, Drunk Lee overwhelmed Base Kimimaro who fought KM0 Naruto, but that was a weaker KM0 Naruto.
No,They don't create physical space-time continuum. What they see is just a dream.would the infinite tsukuyomi be 2C or 2B since it creates physical time-space continum for each person trapped in it
This for the anime profile, in the movie Road to ninja obito uses limited Tsukuyomi, which is a experimental version of infinity Tsukuyomi. Limited Tsukuyomi creates a ono-one mirror copy of the real nard universe which can only be accessed by time-space ninjustsu like kamui and kakashi describes limited Tsukuyomi as a transportation jutsu rather then a genjutsu, also nard and sakura both tried to dispel the genjutsu but they coudnt do so because it was never a genjutsu to begin withNo,They don't create physical space-time continuum. What they see is just a dream.
I am not familiar with the movie, but isn't IT refered to as a genjutsu in the anime? Why would it function like limited tsukuyomi?This for the anime profile, in the movie Road to ninja obito uses limited Tsukuyomi, which is a experimental version of infinity Tsukuyomi. Limited Tsukuyomi creates a ono-one mirror copy of the real nard universe which can only be accessed by time-space ninjustsu like kamui and kakashi describes limited Tsukuyomi as a transportation jutsu rather then a genjutsu, also nard and sakura both tried to dispel the genjutsu but they coudnt do so because it was never a genjutsu to begin with
because obito calls the limited tsukuyomi a experimental version of the infinite tsukuyomi. The properties of both jutsus are also the same, obito used a crystal ball like thing with the pattern of the rinnesharingan to reflect against the moon. Other then the way the jutsu is activited, everything else is the sameI am not familiar with the movie, but isn't IT refered to as a genjutsu in the anime? Why would it function like limited tsukuyomi?
That's not what I'm asking. Did the movie specifically state that limited tsukuyomi is not a genjutsu? If so, then why would be assume they work the same way if IT is a genjutsu. Obito tried to replicate IT and ended up creating an alternate reality. That's what I'm getting so far.because obito calls the limited tsukuyomi a experimental version of the infinite tsukuyomi. The properties of both jutsus are also the same, obito used a crystal ball like thing with the pattern of the rinnesharingan to reflect against the moon. Other then the way the jutsu is activited, everything else is the same
it never really specifies that it is/is't a genjutsu, only that its a different reality created using the power of 7 tailed beasts and that its a lesser version of infinite tsukuyomi. You could think of it being refered to as a genjutsu if you count it being a lesser version of ITThat's not what I'm asking. Did the movie specifically state that limited tsukuyomi is not a genjutsu? If so, then why would be assume they work the same way if IT is a genjutsu. Obito tried to replicate IT and ended up creating an alternate reality. That's what I'm getting so far.
Did you really just argue that alternate realities are illusions? If limited tsukuyomi is an alternate reality then it is real and not an illusion.Edi: IT being refered to a genjutsu is't a big deal as genjutsu are just illusion which can mean
1. something that is not really what it seems to be
2. an idea or belief that is not true
the idea behind infinite tsukuyomi is that everyone lives an a "Dream World" taliored to be whatever the target finds happines in, for naruto it was to have parents which was the plot of the movie, for obito it was a world where Rin was alive. Even though Nard knew he was being tricked by obito to belive that his parents were alive. The idea or belief that his parents are alive, even though its factually wrong is why IT is called a genjutsu, not because the reality in terms of physical construct is a fake but what occupies that reality, the idea of what that reality is suppose to be, which is to make the target be happy even if it goes against factually established events in the real universe
Lesser version doesn't really matter because one is a genjutsu and other is implied to not be one. Lesser version could simply mean IT gets the same thing done but on a larger scale by using illusions.it never really specifically says that it is/is't a genjutsu, only that its a different reality created using the power of 7 tailed beasts and that its a lesser version of infinite tsukuyomi
i meant what was shown in that realites are ''illusion''. Like how you go to see a play in a theater, the theater is real, the people are real, but the story being played is fiction or an illusion made for the entertainmaent of the audience. I just cant explain it properlyDid you really just argue that alternate realities are illusions? If limited tsukuyomi is an alternate reality then it is real and not an illusion.
Let me point out your circular reasoning here.
1. Limited Tsukuyomi is real because it is not a genjutsu.
2. Limited Tsukuyomi tries to imitate Infinite Tsukuyomi so IT is also real.
3. IT is genjutsu, but now it doesn't matter because alternate realities are illusions.
cant genjutsu like rewrite reality and also didnt kakashi refer to kaguya changing dimensions as a genjutsuLesser version doesn't really matter because one is a genjutsu and other is implied to not be one. Lesser version could simply means IT gets the same thing done but on a larger scale but using illusions.
Considering there is genjustu that straight up alters reality it being a genjustu is not really a defeater if you can argue it wellDid you really just argue that alternate realities are illusions? If limited tsukuyomi is an alternate reality then it is real and not an illusion.
Let me point out your circular reasoning here.
1. Limited Tsukuyomi is real because it is not a genjutsu.
2. Limited Tsukuyomi tries to imitate Infinite Tsukuyomi so IT is also real.
3. IT is genjutsu, but now it doesn't matter because alternate realities are illusions.
Lesser version doesn't really matter because one is a genjutsu and other is implied to not be one. Lesser version could simply means IT gets the same thing done but on a larger scale but using illusions.
kakashi also says this "To rewrite the world in an instant and make into reality, this is just like genjutsu" so genjustsu being able to create physical world doesn't seem far fetchedConsidering there is genjustu that straight up alters reality it being a genjustu is not really a defeater if you can argue it well
Ok.i meant what was shown in that realites are ''illusion''. Like how you go to see a play in a theater, the theater is real, the people are real, but the story being played is fiction or an illusion made for the entertainmaent of the audience. I just cant explain it properly
Sure and I have no problem with that. But I wouldn't really frame my argument as: Limited Tsukuyomi is real because it isn't a genjutsu. Alt should just say genjutsu can be real and then argue why limited tsukuyomi is an actual physical universe. That way IT can be scaled to it.Considering there is genjustu that straight up alters reality it being a genjustu is not really a defeater if you can argue it well
my badSure and I have no problem with that. But I wouldn't really frame my argument as: Limited Tsukuyomi is real because it isn't a genjutsu. Alt should just say genjutsu can be real and then argue why limited tsukuyomi is an actual physical universe. That way IT can be scaled to it.
Didn't Jura already say she was more of a bijuu than a Jinchuriki? Or am I remembering wrong?I don't think so. Unless she literally becomes a Biju or is implied to have resurrection on that level.
Her regen yes. I don't remember if he said she is more of a Biju herself. And there is a difference between being more like a Biju and literally being one. Maybe I'm forgetting some statements tho. As it stands, I wouldn't give her every single ability of a Biju unless she's stated to be a Biju herself. Kinda like the Shinju.Didn't Jura already say she was more of a bijuu than a Jinchuriki? Or am I remembering wrong?
Well that makes much more senseOk.
Sure and I have no problem with that. But I wouldn't really frame my argument as: Limited Tsukuyomi is real because it isn't a genjutsu. Alt should just say genjutsu can be real and then argue why limited tsukuyomi is an actual physical universe. That way IT can be scaled to it.
Yo shadow could you help me unlock kaguya profile? Had a crt passed a while back about her rinnesharingan but I never applied the changesit wouldnt work well as a movie in terms of structure or pacing
Naruto defeats a weakened Haku.Why isn’t Haku scaling over Kakashi and Zabuza an outlier statement? Haku may not have been “motivated” to Kill Sasuke and Naruto (Even though his statements and the DB say otherwise), he was still made to bleed by someone vaguely above 1/10th Zabuza.
Yeah. I'm just trying to help Alt so that the next CRT doesn'tWell that makes much more sense
Only can beat Aobathoughts ?
can also just argue its real based on the fact that people inside the IT world can crossover and interact with the main universe in the anime with no issue.Ok.
Sure and I have no problem with that. But I wouldn't really frame my argument as: Limited Tsukuyomi is real because it isn't a genjutsu. Alt should just say genjutsu can be real and then argue why limited tsukuyomi is an actual physical universe. That way IT can be scaled to it.
yesYo shadow could you help me unlock kaguya profile? Had a crt passed a while back about her rinnesharingan but I never applied the changes
Yeah. That's my point. Stuff like what you mentioned and Obito being able to travel between LT world and real world using kamui are much better arguments and leave fewer holes.can also just argue its real based on the fact that people inside the IT world can crossover and interact with the main universe in the anime with no issue.
Is it unlocked now?
@AlternativePrinciple leaving aside the Limited Tsukuyomi stuff, what would the Anime characters be scaling to?