Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well anything is better then nothing, I mean seriously, he was hyped to be stronger then kaguya and was given the appropriate feat for it (supernova) to show his superiority and what do we scale him to? Moon level, not even planetary

Couple things. Giving people shitty ratings opposed to no ratings is not a better scenario. There’s such a thing as a net negative change. Also, Kaguya doesn’t scale to her ETSO, so yes he’s superior to Kaguya in stats and that doesn’t entail he’s above the ETSO. Furthermore, I don’t even agree that the ETSO is tier 4, but ignoring that it’s tier 4 overtime. There’s just a multitude of reasons why your rationalization here fails. Ignoring all of what we said early about how the supernova feat isn’t actually a valid feat.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Just trying to prove a point, doesn't matter how much prove and effort I put into a crt, if its an upgrade beyond 5B then it's not getting accepted.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

if its an upgrade beyond 5B then it's not getting accepted.

Maybe just maybe, the beyond 5B physicals arguments just aren’t good. Like if you craft a bullet proof argument then people will be convinced, it’s the way things go. Slayer and Tracer and all them aren’t biased people, if they think an argument is solid they’ll agree with it.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

It wouldn't take a lot of analysis for the average power scaler, it's only on this wiki that such lengths have to be taken just to prove the feats validity

No it actually takes just as much speculation to reach that conclusion and thats not even the biggest problem with the feat like I mentioned

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Maybe just maybe, the beyond 5B physicals arguments just aren’t good. Like if you craft a bullet proof argument then people will be convinced, it’s the way things go. Slayer and Tracer and all them aren’t biased people, if they think an argument is solid they’ll agree with it.

Nah. Mods Bad. ~ Baubawang Prime

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Couple things. Giving people shitty ratings opposed to no ratings is not a better scenario. There’s such a thing as a net negative change. Also, Kaguya doesn’t scale to her ETSO, so yes he’s superior to Kaguya in stats and that doesn’t entail he’s above the ETSO. Furthermore, I don’t even agree that the ETSO is tier 4, but ignoring that it’s tier 4 overtime. There’s just a multitude of reasons why your rationalization here fails. Ignoring all of what we said early about how the supernova feat isn’t actually a valid feat.

It can be for some shitty and not for others. at the end of the day the feat is there and the interpretation as well, just depends on the perspective of others, for kishi kaguya nuking her dimensions was a great show of power, but for us it's barely anything, same with momo. I just came here to back my interpretation and that's that, nothing more, nothing less. Not saying to change the ratings, just trying to prove my point

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Just trying to prove a point, doesn't matter how much prove and effort I put into a crt, if its an upgrade beyond 5B then it's not getting accepted.

yeah that's not always true. Take the example of dragon ball a little over a year ago anything above low 2-C would get shut down, the verse is now peaking at low 1-C

 

[ScalingRandomVerse]

 

[BlastX]

At this point I feel it's pointless to go for beyond Low 5-B nard, look dude at this point be happy we're still a this point and not lower.

 

[ScalingRandomVerse]

Update on this guy he started boruto recently and he's loving it.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

yeah that's not always true. Take the example of dragon ball a little over a year ago anything above low 2-C would get shut down, the verse is now peaking at low 1-C

Probably because there is a physical representation of the feat and not statement. I don't know haven't watched DBZ since childhood

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It can be for some shitty and not for others. at the end of the day the feat is there and the interpretation as well, just depends on the perspective of others, for kishi kaguya nuking her dimensions was a great show of power, but for us it's barely anything, same with momo. I just came here to back my interpretation and that's that, nothing more, nothing less. Not saying to change the ratings, just trying to prove my point

While you’re free to hold your interpretation that Momo and Kaguya scale to like these realm busting capabilities, that’s precisely what we’ve been refuting. But as you say if you’re not going to change your mind and don’t want to debate your viewpoint that’s fine lol.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

While you’re free to hold your interpretation that Momo and Kaguya scale to like these realm busting capabilities, that’s precisely what we’ve been refuting. But as you say if you’re not going to change your mind and don’t want to debate your viewpoint that’s fine lol.

Nah, I am open about it,I get why nard is so low on this wiki, all those bs statements and no physical representation of it with contradictions like the gokage scaling to Momoshiki, like why? Why do this ike? Why?

Don't take me the wrong way I am fine with your guys rating

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

At this point I feel it's pointless to go for beyond Low 5-B nard, look dude at this point be happy we're still a this point and not lower.

can't argue with that

 

[ScalingRandomVerse]

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[Ryzen7900X]

At this point I feel it's pointless to go for beyond Low 5-B nard, look dude at this point be happy we're still a this point and not lower.

Arc has a 6-C calc for the moon slicing feat ready to be used any moment

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Nah, I am open about it,I get why nard is so low on this wiki, all those bs statements and no physical representation of it with contradictions like the gokage scaling to Momoshiki, like why? Why do this ike? Why?

Don't take me the wrong way I am fine with your guys rating

Yeah I’ve debated about Naruto god tier scaling too long to be convinced about the tier 4 stuff but personally I wish it were more concrete.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Arc has a 6-C calc for the moon slicing feat ready to be used any moment

His finally going to open our eyes to the real scaling of nard mountain level and hypersonic speed

 

[ScalingRandomVerse]

The way the plot is progressing I think boruto will definitely be uni someday.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Yeah I’ve debated about Naruto god tier scaling too long to be convinced about the tier 4 stuff but personally I wish it were more concrete.

Gotta go to Japan and force kishi to give us proper feats or else they are never going to give us any, not even in parallel worlds

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Yeah I’ve debated about Naruto god tier scaling. I wish it were more concrete.

Wall Breaking. Street Cracking. Building Shaking. Concrete Scaling Baby!

 

[Ryzen7900X]

His finally going to open our eyes to the real scaling of nard mountain level and hypersonic speed

honestly that eliminates any consistency issues seen in Boruto

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

The way the plot is progressing I think boruto will definitely be uni someday.

Unless it's a proper feat and not just some statment then maybe

 

[ssgengar]

Bro like me fr

 

[Arkenis]

Naruto - Sasuke Intelligence Update (Part 2)

Sasuke in part has pretty bland intell section, here is the update for it. I'd like to think there's more but can't find any.

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[AnimesFreak2]

About the earlier power scaling comments...

The story should always take first precedence over the scaling lest you end up with eldritch tier garbage like Suggsverse solely tried to be written for battleboarding



But anyone who thinks power scaling isn't important is also trippin

Because otherwise it's hard to worry for the protagonists at all if the threat levels aren't specified

Like what? Is this a world ending threat? Or just some random mook? Am I supposed to be worried for the heroes or not?

 

[KingogKings777]

About the earlier power scaling comments...

The story should always take first precedence over the scaling lest you end up with eldritch tier garbage like Suggsverse solely tried to be written for battleboarding



But anyone who thinks power scaling isn't important is also trippin

Because otherwise it's hard to worry for the protagonists at all if the threat levels aren't specified

Like what? Is this a world ending threat? Or just some random mook? Am I supposed to be worried for the heroes or not?

Sounds like cope. We an indexing site we need the 5C Meno and anime characters.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Sounds like cope. We an indexing site we need the 5C Meno and anime characters.

You right...forget what I said...I was wrong

 

[Ryzen7900X]

About the earlier power scaling comments...

The story should always take first precedence over the scaling lest you end up with eldritch tier garbage like Suggsverse solely tried to be written for battleboarding

Oh come on now…wanting better feats doesn’t automatically make me Lionel Suggs or something there is A LOT of middle ground between this and suggsverse type verses, that’s kinda disingenuous.

But anyone who thinks power scaling isn't important is also trippin

Because otherwise it's hard to worry for the protagonists at all if the threat levels aren't specified

Like what? Is this a world ending threat? Or just some random mook? Am I supposed to be worried for the heroes or not?

the most important reason is that animanga particularly Shounen is a very visual medium and “big booms” are a great way to cover that

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Oh come on now…wanting better feats doesn’t automatically make me Lionel Suggs or something there is A LOT of middle ground between this and suggsverse type verses, that’s kinda disingenuous.

the most important reason is that animanga particularly Shounen is a very visual medium and “big booms” are a great way to cover that

I ain't saying you Lionel Suggs I was just giving an analogy lmao


I've literally already given my complains about the lack of feats in Boruto earlier in this thread if you wanna read them

I'm just saying writing>scaling is all

And if I had to choose I would def take A tier writing for Boruto over top tier scaling tbh

It's why I prefer the OPM Webcomic to the Manga now a days

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

It's why I prefer the OPM Webcomic to the Manga now a days

REAL

 

[Ryzen7900X]

 

[SlendVeny]

I wonder how many will catch on to this lol

"Back in my day, when we used to be Moon level."

 

[Ryzen7900X]

imagine a Boruto god tier tries to bust Pluto and….it doesn’t happen and the manga implies it’s too much for them

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why tf would anyone be on Pluto like they aren’t a planet anymore why we gotta kill em further

 

[AnimesFreak2]

REAL

OPM Manga Pre Surface Battles>>>>OPM Webcomic>>>>>>>OPM Manga Surface Battles and onwards

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Boruto really out here smoking Kawaki in front of the hoes

Like Delta is embarrassed for this mf and you know Eida watching this like "Maybe I fell for the wrong Otsutsuki?"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Kawaki straight didn’t train either he unironically might be weaker than pre TS if he stagnated, meanwhile Boruto’s control over his karma got like worse? wtf is going on here Momo growing stronger maybe

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Kawaki straight didn’t train either he unironically might be weaker than pre TS if he stagnated,

Dumbass is dependent on free handouts, and thinks training is for nerds.

meanwhile Boruto’s control over his karma got like worse?

Might be he doesn't want to use its power and hadn't used it in a few years, so his control over it isn't good anymore?

Or did Boruto ever take those pills Amado gave him? Maybe this might be one of those delayed side effects?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Kawaki straight didn’t train either he unironically might be weaker than pre TS if he stagnated, meanwhile Boruto’s control over his karma got like worse? wtf is going on here Momo growing stronger maybe

Even side characters are putting up a better fight against Kawaki's opponents than Kawaki. Limitless Code might be stronger than Kawaki, considering how Boruto was able to one-shot him.