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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

GokuSparkle said:
Wonder how many times I'm gonna see that statement? Greater threat =/= stronger. She was stronger compared to the heroes at the time, while Naruto beat Toneri one on one.
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toneri threatened to blow up the earth several times and kaguyas still called a greater threat than him to the world, not to menttion that everyone in boruto is anxious of fighting people stronger than KAGUYA not TONERI
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
not at the time hence why its Has and not Had. it still stands now
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Yeah cause she was a greater threat than Toneri ever was. Frieza was a greater threat than vegetable OVA villains stronger than him taken down by Goten and Trunks.
Stryker861 said:
toneri threatened to blow up the earth several times and kaguyas still called a greater threat than him to the world, not to menttion that everyone in boruto is anxious of fighting people stronger than KAGUYA not TONERI
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Kaguya still trapped everyone in the world so they were both global threats. And yes, because the scrolls were about Kaguya, not Toneri.
 
@Shining_Cross

WA Kaguya (Ressurection) = Biju 1-8, 50% Kurama, Double Rinnegan Madara + IT Chakra Stated to be > Obito’s Juubi (Biju 1-7, Gyuuki’s Tail & 2 V2 6 Tails Kurama Psuedo Jins).

The little amount of Six Paths Chakra a Complete Juubi (Extra 50% Kurama) would have pales in comparison.

WA Kaguya (Post-Rabbit Form) is further stated to be SIGNIFICANTLY Stronger than Ressurection (Is Stated to be “Exponentially”, but the Multiplier is contested based on Semantics 🤷‍♂️).

Past Kaguya would be destroyed by WA Kaguya.
 
TFO said:
@Shining_Cross

WA Kaguya (Ressurection) = Biju 1-8, 50% Kurama, Double Rinnegan Madara + IT Chakra Stated to be > Obito’s Juubi (Biju 1-7, Gyuuki’s Tail & 2 V2 6 Tails Kurama Psuedo Jins).

The little amount of Six Paths Chakra a Complete Juubi (Extra 50% Kurama) would have pales in comparison.

WA Kaguya (Post-Rabbit Form) is further stated to be SIGNIFICANTLY Stronger than Ressurection (Is Stated to be “Exponentially”, but the Multiplier is contested based on Semantics 🤷‍♂️).

Past Kaguya would be destroyed by WA Kaguya.
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Not to mention all the hax/abilities Kaguya gained from the Shinobi Alliance by putting them in IT

All techniques that didn't exist back then in her time

Even if you don't think WA Kaguya>>>Past Kaguya

WA Kaguya is objectively more hax
 
It wasn't going to erase Earth

but Kakashi did state even if they escaped to another dimension the ETSO would expand there

So it was gonna destroy all her dimensions at least
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Doesn’t someone say it’ll end the Shinobi world
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If that statement WAS made then that is probably more in context to if Kaguya kills Team 7 there is no one to stop the IT and the Shinobi World has been "Destroyed" since everyone is now White Zetsu

Like the whole reason she took them to her dimensions that she created in the first place was so that they wouldn't destroy the earth in her own words

Would make no sense that she would just nuke it like that

But you can still use the whole her erasing all 6 known dimensions of hers from Kakashi statement though

Still a good feat
 
I literally only voted for 5 characters on that pole

1. Kaguya ( like 20 times or so )

2. Kurama ( like 5 times )

3. Kushina ( like 5 ish times )

4. Hagoromo ( like twice )

5. Asura ( once )
 
Stryker861 said:
would you realllllly rather have Minato backstory over 4c-4b god teirs tho 🌚 keep it a buck
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A Minato story has a higher chance of a speed upgrade
Just saying

I would really love it if there's a movie or something detailing the otsutsuki past
The rate at which the manga is speeding up these days is something else
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
It wasn't going to erase Earth

but Kakashi did state even if they escaped to another dimension the ETSO would expand there

So it was gonna destroy all her dimensions at least
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Nah Kakashi said if they escaped to another dimension it wouldn't matter cause they couldn't return to the main place.
 
KingogKings777 said:
Nah Kakashi said if they escaped to another dimension it wouldn't matter cause they couldn't return to the main place.
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Before that...

"I definitely can't teleport away such a giant object with the kamui, and even if we escape into the other dimension..."

He basically implies it won't matter cause the ETSO can expand to other dimensions as well
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
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Before that...

"I definitely can't teleport away such a giant object with the kamui, and even if we escape into the other dimension..."

He basically implies it won't matter cause the ETSO can expand to other dimensions as well
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That’s not how that works. His sentence wasn’t finished. Nothing about that statement implies it would cross dimensions or erase multiple.

Even if we take them as Separate Thoughts or refering to different things, the context would be nonsensical. Why would he worried about returning to the Core Dimension if even Kamui Dimension would be destroyed?

Not to Mention Kakashi wouldn’t even know how the ETSB works outside of BZ hype and it being similar to Naruto’s, Madara’s & Obito’s.

So that interpretation is incorrect.
 
It would be different if Kakashi statement was structured differently:

“I definitely can’t teleport away such a giant object with the Kamui and If that thing get’s too large we won’t be able to return to this place. Even if we escape into the other dimension…”

With a sentence structure like that, Context & Implication would lend the interpretation that ETSB would destroy other dimensions some support, but with the way it’s actually written, no.
 
How much chakra does Kurama have compared to the other Bijuu?

Half of Kurama demolished 5 Bijuus at the same time, he also overpowered the combined Bijuudama of said 5 Bijuus. Half of Kurama = 5x Bijuu. Full Kurama = 10x average Bijuu.

What about when compared to the ten tails?

Low end, assuming Gyuki is about as powerful as half Kurama.
Bijuu: 1
All the other seven Bijuus: 7
Gyuki: 5
Kurama: 10

Total/ten tails Chakra amount = 10 + 5 + (7.1) = 22
Kurama has 10 parts of that 22 total. 10/22 = 45,4%

High end, assuming Gyuki is only as powerful as the weaker Bijuus
Everyone besides Kurama: 8
Kurama: 10

Total/ten tails Chakra amount = 10 +(8.1) = 18
Kurama has 10 parts of that 18 total. 10/18 = 55%

So yeah for some reason Hagoromo decided to give half of the entire Ten-Tails Chakra to Kurama.
 
Padaruyos said:
How much chakra does Kurama have compared to the other Bijuu?

Half of Kurama demolished 5 Bijuus at the same time, he also overpowered the combined Bijuudama of said 5 Bijuus. Half of Kurama = 5x Bijuu. Full Kurama = 10x average Bijuu.

What about when compared to the ten tails?

Low end, assuming Gyuki is about as powerful as half Kurama.
Bijuu: 1
All the other seven Bijuus: 7
Gyuki: 5
Kurama: 10

Total/ten tails Chakra amount = 10 + 5 + (7.1) = 22
Kurama has 10 parts of that 22 total. 10/22 = 45,4%

High end, assuming Gyuki is only as powerful as the weaker Bijuus
Everyone besides Kurama: 8
Kurama: 10

Total/ten tails Chakra amount = 10 +(8.1) = 18
Kurama has 10 parts of that 18 total. 10/18 = 55%

So yeah for some reason Hagoromo decided to give half of the entire Ten-Tails Chakra to Kurama.
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I don't think it's quite so simple. We know the Bijuu started out as babies, and I think Kurama grew so much stronger than all the others mostly due to hatred.
 
GokuSparkle said:
I don't think it's quite so simple. We know the Bijuu started out as babies, and I think Kurama grew so much stronger than all the others mostly due to hatred.
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Wouldn't this mean that a theoretical full ten tails in the present would be >>>>> original ten tails?

We know that half of Kurama is at 5x stronger than a regular Bijuu, full Kurama would be 10x. If Kurama starts out as equal to the other Bijuus, even if we assume that all the other Bijuus didn't grow at all, the Ten Tails once reformed would be 2x stronger.

Original ten tails: 9
Kurama grows 10x stronger: 18
Oncd reformed, Ten Tails is 2x stronger.
 
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