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Actually, y'all have never seen me go anywhere close to all out lmao.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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this was a big three issue more than just naruto, me and bmw were the only two people were trying to let Yhwach at least keep his 6-B rating when his 5-B was removed, and one piece was capped at high 7-A for really long with MHS
HelloThere1089
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Friendly fire.. You just called me homeless you crazy man
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Literal Lex level comment, shame on you
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KaydeeX
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image making any kind of CRT to just change some words and numbers on a website
HelloThere1089
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Are you saying lex isn't a one man army???
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idk bleach seems hella favoured here, soul king getting tier 2 scaling for a cosmology creation with no provable timeframe for a cosmology he didnt even create himself but shibai isnt even gonna get a possibly 2c rating lol (Iirc creation feats dont even scale to your stats)
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Oh you sweet summer child-
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Bruh, what did I just read the last two pages? Like let's be real, this site has changed and I'll say this, yes everyone has there biased opinions but there is a limit. For example, I was a 100% Naruto hater for no reason around my early times on the wiki. Old Griffin would laugh at the idea of Naruto being FTL and Planet level. However, I grew up, and honestly you'd see me agreeing far more with Naruto threads than before despite me still not listening my self as a supporter but an opponent of the verse previously.
Honestly, I'd probably be at odds with half of y'all if I was the bozo I was before. You gotta just accept that sometimes you might not have hit the mark, not everyone will see it like you did but remember, things change, new arguments show up, people change. It's not that deep at the end of the day.Bleach gang for life. For real though, y'all will be fine.
Honestly, I'd probably be at odds with half of y'all if I was the bozo I was before. You gotta just accept that sometimes you might not have hit the mark, not everyone will see it like you did but remember, things change, new arguments show up, people change. It's not that deep at the end of the day.
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care to educate me otherwise?
it's good to see people admit about their standings, unfortunately there are plenty of old yous running about here, but I agree with the final sentence, it's just powerscaling at the end of the day
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Imagine typing ~10k words for vs debating, couldn’t be me…
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You gotta familiarise yourself with the standards man
Timeframes for tier 2 and above creation feats aren't relevant because their infinite in value
And, creation can scale to your stats
There's a whole page on it
It's why the olympians are Tier 4 in the first place
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Bleach does well on this site cuz Deceived Arcker and I make actual good threads. But go back at 2020/2021 era to see what it was like before I started trailblazing.
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oh fr? then Pierrot Canon Naruto is tier 2 via rtn? (assume for the sake of this convo the timeline error is not there)
lol that is not an example of scrutiny
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@Ghostimuscrime I mean you dont have to agree with the scaling or even thinks it good, its not really relevant because the wiki isnt a homogenized group, every verse has their own supporters with their own CRTs that people are either gonna find convincing or not. thats basically what it boils down too, the reason why 2-C Soul king is a thing and 2-C shibai isnt, is because more Bleach fans agree that the soul king is 2-C than naruto/boruto fans agree that shibai is 2-C. and everyone else thinks their respective arguments are sound, i guarantee you that if you made an argument that everyone here thought was convincing then shibai would be 2-C.
thats not favoritism from the wiki thats just how verses work, and sure some verses have more leniency based on how many supporters/how popular ect it is. for example there are plenty of verses on the wiki that likely get scrutinized significantly less than the big three because of the lack of familiarity and supporters makes it much easier to dupe people into believing stuff, especially if they are not aware of the context ,is there bias from the supporters? absolutely but its not some larger movement of favoritism from the wiki. if you disagree with the scaling your best bet is to get counter arguments people think are valid. (if you have a valid counter to 2-C Bleach and people think its convincing then go for it)
and as for bleach in general, its only really a modern thing that Bleach has gotten tier 4/2 scaling, Bleach alongside naruto was capped at tier 5 godtiers and like island level espanda for a long time with a ton of opponents.
Matthew vs Bleach threads were always spicey to watch
thats not favoritism from the wiki thats just how verses work, and sure some verses have more leniency based on how many supporters/how popular ect it is. for example there are plenty of verses on the wiki that likely get scrutinized significantly less than the big three because of the lack of familiarity and supporters makes it much easier to dupe people into believing stuff, especially if they are not aware of the context ,is there bias from the supporters? absolutely but its not some larger movement of favoritism from the wiki. if you disagree with the scaling your best bet is to get counter arguments people think are valid. (if you have a valid counter to 2-C Bleach and people think its convincing then go for it)
and as for bleach in general, its only really a modern thing that Bleach has gotten tier 4/2 scaling, Bleach alongside naruto was capped at tier 5 godtiers and like island level espanda for a long time with a ton of opponents.
Matthew vs Bleach threads were always spicey to watch
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Like Arc said, go back to 2020 Bleach and before, shit was anything but favored.
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on an unrelated not, i do hope we get more information hax going forward
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Edo Madara > Stable Juubito
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Shouldn't curse seals act as information hax or some sort?
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i wish this was the case, I dont mind being rejected and going back to the drawing board to make better arguments
its one of the most fun aspects of powerscaling, but seeing overly downgrade hungry mods, explicitly bad faith arguments, everchanging standards and people refusing to listen to reason for the past 2 weeks just makes me loose motivation to make CRTs at all, I dont think even if I did manage to disprove the opposers and fully destroy their arguments is gonna get their greenlight because they already made up their minds. they simply do not like certain characters getting a certain tier
I had a few CRTs in mind that some people here have agreed with off wiki but I don't wanna publish those as it'll be redundant and lead to the same thing I just described
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Lmao, no.
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Not even close.
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It just is the case. Stop confusing your failure with mods being downgrade hungry goon
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Well I disagree due to having observed otherwise
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I don't doubt he would've made a good attempt at it; but that'd be a hypothetical Sage Mode Edo Madara.Lmao yes.
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Heres a tip, focus less on trying to debunk and more on convincing, arguments are only as good as the way they are presented, it doesnt matter how airtight you think it may be if your not conveying that information in a way thats convincing or understandable then its not gonna amount to much, specifically when were talking about more subjective parts like scaling versus just adding abilities. there are plenty examples of wonky arguments passing because the person was able to present it in a way that was easy to logically follow , now im not saying you should just have well presented arguments with no substance or like some people be disingenuous (cough DMC, Cough), those may pass initially but they never tend to last, but what i mean is the methodology in making them should be less trying to prove a science and more about trying to get us to understand why you believe in something.
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Well I love bleach for this very reason they are well coordinated and calculated. Even the mid-tier characters are treated with respect in terms of power scaling on the wiki. In contrast, For Naruto you have to battle it out with the so called fans first. The community has its share of divisions, with some fans openly stating that they don’t care about god-tier scalings and even undermining those who do.
Many enthusiasts that were once invested in high-tier (Tier 4 and above) scaling for Naruto have left the wiki. The remaining fans seem to have resigned themselves to Tier 5 interpretations that are handed to them. However, a few individuals, like Lex and Ghost, stand out. They’re like Bleach fans in their unwavering commitment to defending their meta’s no matter the opposition.
I did not mention any name please don’t come for me
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Maybe that’s because you only look at the god tier stuff and not the other 90% of the verse that’s gotten plentiful upgrades in the past few years (with more upgrades to come in the future)
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Woah woah don’t put my name in when talking in this toneWell I love bleach for this very reason they are well coordinated and calculated. Even the mid-tier characters are treated with respect in terms of power scaling on the wiki. In contrast, For Naruto you have to battle it out with the so called fans first. The community has its share of divisions, with some fans openly stating that they don’t care about god-tier scalings and even undermining those who do.
Many enthusiasts that were once invested in high-tier (Tier 4 and above) scaling for Naruto have left the wiki. The remaining fans seem to have resigned themselves to Tier 5 interpretations that are handed to them. However, a few individuals, like Lex and Ghost, stand out. They’re like Bleach fans in their unwavering commitment to defending their meta’s no matter the opposition.
I did not mention any name please don’t come for me
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Naw you two are peas in a podWoah woah don’t put my name in when talking in this tone
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Yeah
