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that works too, still a moon level...Antvasima said:
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Naruto power-scaling?
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But the moon seems to be in a closer vicinity to the planet, though, does that not count for anything? Considering the fact that the characters have the ability to go onto the moon so quickly, the moon is hollowed within itself (probably made by the gravity core) and the fact that Juubi couldn't easily break free from it if it was, there seems to be an inconsistency we're not seeing here.
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I'll agree with what @Davy0 said about Naruto & Sasuke but madara should still be moon lvl tbh if he's close in power to hagoromo who in his death bed without Juubi is moon level than it shouldn't be a debatable matter just seems ridiculous ...
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The moon is hollow probably because the otsukagdg (sorry i forgot the name ) clan made it so after they colonized it and the juubi was being sealed thats why it could not break the CT
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Davy0 said:
how you quantify the jubbi being unable to break free from it? also the visual angle of the moon changes in each panel its shown, also in each panel our POV is different, we should stick to occams razor on this one...
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@Antvasima Well theoretically if we just consider the feat moon instead of moon+ wouldn't that make them both moon+ since he performed the feat in his death bed anyway?
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yes, should be.
@Antvasima if memory serves me right the 30 zettatons one required some very specific method, which doesn't necessarily describes what happand, besides most of the 'ends' were at moon level which is honestly fine...
edit: rechecked it, moon + works too...
@Antvasima if memory serves me right the 30 zettatons one required some very specific method, which doesn't necessarily describes what happand, besides most of the 'ends' were at moon level which is honestly fine...
edit: rechecked it, moon + works too...
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Toneri is multi-continent naruto is way superior to toneri given the facts that naruto was able to defeat him in one punch just whith his KCM just that already speaks for itself you should keep whith moon level.Becouse it could be alot more dual whith the fact that the naruto world is bigger than our world whitch are the possilibility of their moon be classified as small planet.
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Naurto and Sasuke should be around High 6-A or Low 5-C. Plus I'm pretty sure Madara is stronger than Toneri so he should be also around High 6-A or Low 5-C.
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@Illuminati478
Manga statements >>>>>>>>>> Calcs
Statements are the words of the author, i doubt Kishimoto drew his manga panels with power calculations in mind.
Manga statements >>>>>>>>>> Calcs
Statements are the words of the author, i doubt Kishimoto drew his manga panels with power calculations in mind.
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and yet cell solar system buster is not legit lol sometimes the author statement are contradictedDC52 said:
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and yet cell solar system buster is not legit lol sometimes the author statement are contradicted
Cell is a arrogant villain in dbz how does his character exemplify hagoromo in anyway also nothing was contradicted by showings to correlate with that route...
Cell is a arrogant villain in dbz how does his character exemplify hagoromo in anyway also nothing was contradicted by showings to correlate with that route...
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Cell is a arrogant villain in dbz how does his character exemplify hagoromo in anyway also nothing was contradicted by showings to correlate with that route...CHILLVIBEZZ said:
i was just using an example
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Ok then.
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Lol, yet Kishimotos statements are not contradictory. The only thing which could possibly be argued to be contradictory are manga panels which were not drawn with power calculations in mind.
Lol, yet Kishimotos statements are not contradictory. The only thing which could possibly be argued to be contradictory are manga panels which were not drawn with power calculations in mind.
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Can we move Naruto back to 5-C. It literally stated in the Last he could destroy and move the moon.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77414-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+1.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77415-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+2.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77416-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+3.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77417-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+4.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77414-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+1.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77415-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+2.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77416-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+3.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77417-naruto's+chakra+can+move+the+moon+4.png
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Destroy the Moon how? I've not seen the Last, so I have not much context, but if Toneri is crashing the Moon into the Earth, then the kinetic energy of the Earth's orbit, hundreds of Zettatons, more energy than the Earth's GBE, will help destroy the Moon for him.Credible Hulk said:
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Toneri took Naruto's chakra to use to protect his castle from the destruction of the moon. He states the chakra that protects the castle is strong enough to move and also destroy the moon. The chakra that protects the castle is Naruto's.Gallavant said:
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the chakra that protects the castle is strong enough to destroy the moon.
1. The screenshots doesn't say that, it says strong enough to move the Moon. It only says the Moon will be destroyed, show me where it says the chakra will destroy it directly. Provide proof of your claims please, or stop using scans out of context.
Toneri doesn't need to overpower the Moon's GBE because if it rams into the Earth it will be close to Earth's gravity, which will help pull the pieces apart, so its not Moon level. The KE of the Earth would assist in its destruction also, as I have previously stated. Then you also have the problem how you apply the collision of the Moon with Earth to the chakra's durability when the castle is inside the Moon (I think?) rather than at the point of collision.
Crumbling a Moon sized chunk of Earth < Moon busting, for gravitational reasons. To Moon bust, you need enough energy to send the pieces at a fast enough velocity that they won't pull to each other anymore. If the Moon collides with Earth, the Earth will attract those pieces to itself, or would simply move into them through its orbit..
1. The screenshots doesn't say that, it says strong enough to move the Moon. It only says the Moon will be destroyed, show me where it says the chakra will destroy it directly. Provide proof of your claims please, or stop using scans out of context.
Toneri doesn't need to overpower the Moon's GBE because if it rams into the Earth it will be close to Earth's gravity, which will help pull the pieces apart, so its not Moon level. The KE of the Earth would assist in its destruction also, as I have previously stated. Then you also have the problem how you apply the collision of the Moon with Earth to the chakra's durability when the castle is inside the Moon (I think?) rather than at the point of collision.
Crumbling a Moon sized chunk of Earth < Moon busting, for gravitational reasons. To Moon bust, you need enough energy to send the pieces at a fast enough velocity that they won't pull to each other anymore. If the Moon collides with Earth, the Earth will attract those pieces to itself, or would simply move into them through its orbit..
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is moviing the moon not moon lvl?
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Depends on how fast it was moving or if you just knocked it out of orbit. Majora did that and he's only Continent Level+.
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The moom wasn't the size of the actual tho. Naruto's moon is literally the the size of our moon.
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Well, my point still stands, it depends on the speed you move it or if you only knock it out of orbit.
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I'd feel knocking the moon out of orbit would be planet lvl. Something 1/4 the mass of the Earth and to move it out of orbit it need to be moving at least relavistic speeds. Not mention the velocity the the Moon would be going at. But as for Naruto even moving the Moon a little should at least be low 5-C.
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...Knocking the moon out of orbit is Planet Level... that statement is so inaccurate I don't even know where to begin.
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Well no given distance was shown. Also yes it could be.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/392978-moon_move_2_super.jpg
Arale knocked back a planet away, so yeah.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/392978-moon_move_2_super.jpg
Arale knocked back a planet away, so yeah.
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Wait a minute. When did the calc come in stating that the moon is literally our moons size? It's far closer to orbit than our moon is (you can clearly see the earth's continents better than you would on a normal moon, right?) and Shikamaru and Sai literally fly there on ink birds. I don't think this moon is as large as our own. Or maybe I'm overthinking scope versus distance?
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I was talking about knocking the moon out of orbit in general. Thats like saying Flash isn't lightspeed if no timeframe is given. They state he's lightspeed. In Naruto they state his chakra can move the moon, so it can. Also Naruto and Sasuke were at the Six path's lvl in their final fight(Sasuke was amped, but Naruto wasn't).Gallavant said:
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@Davy0 They all got to the moon via a portal that connects it to the earth, Shikamaru and Sai were flying around inside the part of the moon that is hollow. And why would it be smaller than our moon? I find it hard to believe that Kishimoto wouldn't just use our moon as an example for the Narutoverse's moon, and instead make it smaller.
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