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Shadowbokunohero

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  • Sakura haruno
  • Hinata Hyuga
  • Konan
  • Mei
  • Tsunade
  • Battle Takes place in the Hot springs ^_^
  • winner gets their dream wish so they are ready to kill
  • speed is equalized
 
I think Konan has the highest chance of winning but Sakura might be stronger as an adult, but we don't have enough feats for her.
 
Konan takes this.

As others have stated, she has mobility advantage with having flight and her range is what, hundreds of meters? Sakura has dozens of meters with ninja tools but that doesn't compre to Konan's.

In addition, Konan can disperse herself into paper, thus giving her more ways of avoiding damage.

So, Konan's got range, mobility and a way to avoid/mitigate damage. She may not be the most powerful person here, but she's arguably the most effective.
 
I'm gonna go with Mei, her steam release should be able to screw everyone else up pretty badly. And I mean come on, she's not the Mizukage for nothing.
 
konan doesnt have the best chance of winning, since there is no prep here, plus mei counters her pretty well.

tsunade and sakura have the highest chances. they have the best survivability and stamina, along with as good combat ability as others, they might have trouble with konan tho. And since sakura has higher striking power, speed and stamina, then technically sakura would take first place, then probably tsunade, mei, konan and hinata
 
@Ragazz

Um, speed is equalized. Sakura isn't going to be out pacing anyone. In addition, we said Konan has the best chance of winning due to the fact that she has the mobility advantage (flight), the highest range of attack (hundreds of meters) and can disperse herself.

No one has brought up Kami no Shisha for obvious reasons.

Sakura and Tsunade have the highest amount raw power but are limited in their effective ranges.
 
Indeed. I don't know how they would be able to touch her with her flight. Though didn't Katsuyu tank Pain's Shinra Tensei or something? I can't really remember.
 
I'm gonna break this down a little further to say at least why I think Konan wins but also how I view everyone else.

Hinata: Hinata is dangerous as she's attacking people's charkra network, cutting them off from their techniques and injurying their organs. This particularly bad for Tsunade and Sakura as their strength is based on their chakra. Her Byakugan also allows her to effectively keep an eye on everyone for the most part. Her biggest issue is the fact she lacks in range, mean that she will have major issues with Mei and Konan. She has only one attack to hit someone from a distance (Hakke Kushou) vs Mei's entire arsenal of longer range jutsu and Konan's own long range barrages. She also risks injury by getting in close with Tsunade and Sakura. No to mention that she has little in the way of dealing with Konan's ability to disperse. Summary: Hinata has the potential to take down everyone if she can get her hits in but she risks a lot by trying to do so and and be kept a bay with longer range techniques.

Mei: Mei is effectively Konan's biggest issue as she can melt/burn her paper. The issue with that is that Konan's own range outdoes her's and Konan can get away to the point that Mei can't do anything. Mei can also cover the area in mist to obscure herself or to try and melt them. That, however, will not do her much good. Konan can simply fly out of it, Hinata could arguably see through it and know where to run and Sakura/Tsunade could simply punch the ground, sending out enough force to disperse the mist. It should be noted that the acidic mist would hurt all of them and could eventually kill them if it lasted long enough. Summary: Mei's got a lot good tools to use but none of them are be all end all and each of her opponents have an answer of some sort. Also, Mei has no way of pinning any of them down. She, herself, lack close range capabilities when compared to 3 out of 4 of her opponents and would be outclassed in a physical contest.

Tsunade: She has the most experience of the 5 but her limited arsenal doesn't leave her much. She's surpassed by Sakura in terms of AP and techniques and as Sakura was trained by her in virtually everything, her student is familiar with her methods and limits. Hinata can keep her away with Hakke Kushou and Kaiten and Tsunade risks being disabled if Hinata gets in any hits. Mei's attacks of lava and acidic mist will force Tsunade to dodge or break out of them. Those may not kill her but they can slow her down and force her to have heal herself. Summary: Tsunade doesn't have enough going for her. She's a threat sure, but she is limited to what she can do. Also, she can only heal so much before she drains her chakra and has nothing left. Sakura can beat her at her own game, Mei would force her to expend vital energy or take damage trying to get close, Hinata has methods to her keep away if needed and can possibly fully disable her and Konan can completely avoid her due to Tsunade's lack of range.

Sakura: Sakura is pretty much a stronger Tsunade but never made up for the weaknesses, at least in terms of this fight. She still suffers issues of range which puts her at a disadvantage against 3 out of 4 her opponents and can only tank through so much before she goes down.

Konan: Konan has the range to oudo all of her compeition while her flight and dispersal capabilities means she can keep away from them and cannont be pinned down. That's all she needs to do. She cane effectively engage on her own terms and just lay down waves of attacks from a distance at the right moment to disable or kill anyone. All she really need to do is remove herself from the fight and let the others fight amongst themselves or waste energy trying to get at her. She's pretty much untouchable while still being able to hurt everyone.

Which is why I think she wins.
 
Hinata: Hinata is dangerous as she's attacking people's charkra network, cutting them off from their techniques and injurying their organs. This particularly bad for Tsunade and Sakura as their strength is based on their chakra.

- EXCEPT, they have the byakugo seal and mitotic Regenerationn, which negates that. also, based on chakra? tell me who here is not dependant on chakra? Thats absolutely no argument at all, unless if ure trying to prove that hinata > all. Even without chakra amping sakura's punch is still enough to one shot puppets and punch constantly at supersonic+ speeds. Something similar probably goes for tsunade too.

as i said, konan would be a problem for them, but they have the survivability and chakra reserves to compensate until mei takes konan.

why mei takes konan, u ask? first of all any paper that gets in the acid mist will be gone - thats an ultimate defence against konan. and for offense she can shoot water and lava. and on a bigger scale than what konan can do without prep.

how about mei vs the others? it would be harder probably. Hinata, with byakugan and airpalms could disperse the mist around her and if by any chance she gets close to mei, then mei is fked, bcs guess what, mei needs chakra for her abilities and she doesn't have a way to reopen chakra points. Tho that is if hinata gets close before getting hit by other jutsus and hinata cant heal.

Mei vs tsunade or sakura? mei would most likely be taken out by a berserkerous charge, bcs the Regenerationn works as fast as the acid mist. also tsunade and sakura shown to actually use tactics like this. so mei would likely be rushed and punched.

but maybe mei wont fight konan, maybe the fights go with different opponents, why not all of them gang up on, lets say sakura?

you can never know who will attack who for sure, u can only see how well some do vs some others. however, if in characters, then the leaf girls are the least likely to get gang banged, since sakura and tsunade would be the most likely ones to team up, obviously. Also look at sakura's and hinata's relationship - they would never ever fight one another, despite the fandoms putting them against each other until the end of time.

so all in all, tsunade and sakura can compensate for their weaknesses best via byakugo seal.

Tho this fight is in hot springs, so this fight could be totally different....
 
@Ragazz

The seal and Regenerationn cannot last forever and constantly drain chakra. If they go that route, they have to end if quickly or be completely exhausted. Also, the speed is again, irrelevent as speed is equal.

Mei's effective range is at least several meters and she has no way of making Konan stay in place. What stops Konan from simply taking flight and leaving the hopt springs and using her own effective range of hundreds of meters? Mei's acidic mist doesn't melt instantly.

Also, you've contradicted yourself. You said konan would give them issues but then ask what can she do without prep. Well, here you go:

  • Shikigami no Mai (Dance of the Shikigami): Using her high origami and ninjutsu skills, Konan is able turn her body and clothing into numerous sheets of paper. She can control and reshape every part of her body at will, making such forms as weapons for attack, butterflies for spying, paper airplanes for quick transport, or simply covering her enemy in sheets of paper, restricting and asphyxiating them. She can also hide exploding tags amongst her papers for a deadly surprise. She can easily fly and hover in her paper form and her occasional wings are little more than a decoration.
  • Paper Rain Technique: After forming large wings made of paper, Konan with take to the sky and fire a storm of many sharp kunai-like paper blades down upon a target.
  • Kami Bunshin (Paper Clone): By taking advantage of her ability to manipulate paper, Konan can create a duplicate of herself made form her own chakra-infused paper that can be controlled remotely.
  • Kami Shuriken (Paper Shuriken): By transferring her chakra in to a sheet of paper, Konan can alter the hardness and sharpness of the paper and form it in to the shape of a shuriken.
  • Paper Chakram: This technique is formed by combining a large number of paper sheets into a solid, sharp ring. The chakram is in turn thrown like a disk and spins rapidly towards its target.
Also a charater's relationship don't matter in a versus battle unless we say they're in character which opens that up. We assume that they will try and fight to the best of their abilities no matter their opponent.
 
^^ we dont go by game mechanics here. the seal lasts as long as it has chakra, and Regenerationn drains chakra only if there is something to regenerate. tsunade wont be protecting the village with her chakra here, nor will sakura be going through kaguya's dimensions. all that chakra is for one person. the others would run out of chakra or lives sooner.

mei handles konan.
 
@Ragazz

What game mechanics???

One of the drawbacks to the the healing technique is the fact that it consumes a lot of chakra. In addition, you're assuming that they will take no damage at all despite the fact that they're 5 way battle royale not only against Hinata, Mei and Konan but each other.

Going further, all 5 of the participants are either certified Kage or equivilant to it (Konan is S-rank criminal and Sakura was stated to surpass Tsunade and we have Hinata as listed as strong as Sakura).

You say that Mei handles Konan but have not addressed how she will be able to tag a person who complete mobility advantage over her.
 
it takes alot of chakra when u use it on my mentioned occasions, which is a non-factor here. dont forget, others use chakra too and dont have as high reserves.

except konan has no prep, her only advantage is flying - thats like the smallest advantage compared to the other ppl here. which still mei counters well.

>implying mei cant tag konan... its the same as saying that konan cant tag anyone, since they have avoided faster attacks than that, unlike konan btw.
 
@Ragazz

Creation Rebirth and Strength of a Hundred Technique takes a lot of chakra to utilize. Every injury they take will be a drain on their reserves to heal. In a 5 way battle royale, that could just as likely win you the whole thing as much as blow up in your face. Especially, when one of those combatants has enough attack power to make them pay for it and an element that can make that healing a death (Mei's lava).

Also your statements about stamina are arbitrary. Each combatant has shown high levels of stamina. Tsunade healing all of Konoha, Sakura healing the alliance, Hinata restoring BSM Naruto's chakra with ease, Mei going the the entire 4th Shinobi War without being tired and Konan controlling 600 billion explosive tags. Saying that one of those trumps the other is frankly silly as each is impressive and there's no way to effectively quantify them outside of personal opinion.

Konan has techniques that don't require prep. Why is that so hard get? In fact, no one but you brought up Kami no Shisha, the one technique that requires any prep. A sharp instrument going through the brain still kills in the Naruto series.

Speed is equalized, so saying that someone has dodged faster attacks is irrelevant. My argument about Mei not being able to tag Konan has never had anything to do with speed but with range. Konan can literally just fly out of everyone's effective range and just stay there. Mei has no way pinning Konan in place.
 
it doesnt take any more chakra then the jutsu's of other combatants, and dont forget that they are more than capable to dodge.

just to point this out, sakura was healing the aliance and restoring naruto's and nine tails full chakra without using the seal (altho it took 3 days). whe she used her seal, it was enough to travel trough kaguya's dimensions several times, which even for kaguya (who has more chakra than all 9 tailed beasts combined) is taxing after repeated use. tsunade shouldnt be very far behind. about the others - hinata restored naruto's chakra, not nine-tails chakra (kurama was separated, even to that doesnt make sense) - when naruto was out BSM, kurama was still in his own fight. Also there is no evidense that hinata restored naruto's FULL chakra, we know that she restored atleast enough to enter BSM and be fighting-capable. Mei did tire out. Yes, their chakra reserves are good too, but i'd say that some1 who has the reserves close to a tailed beast are above that.

its not hard to get, i understand that, but thats not the point. if konan had no techs without prep, then she would've had no business being here in the first place. my point is that being without prep makes her the least combat capable here compared to others.

yeah well, everyone can just run to the opposite sides and not fight at all, whats the point then? show me konan performing an attack that is outside of mei's or even hinata's range. u mean Just stay out of range? well as i said, everyone can do that - just run to the opposide sides, that wouldnt get them anywhere. And konan has no way of pinning mei in place, since neither konan's attacks nor konan herself would get through the acid mist.
 
@Ragazz

You do know that Konan has this for range

Range: Hundreds of meters,

All she has do to is fly up and rain down her paper bombs, paper shuriken and her Paper Rain technique at range. She is only combatant here who can play keep away and still attack. She can effectively engage at any distance and control when she takes a risk and when she doesn't because nobody can can effectively keep her contained or match her mobility.

Nobody else has that level of range or advantage, which means that Konan can choose to engage whenever she truly chooses to. In addition, all Konan needs is one sharp projectile to her opponent's head and that's it. The only ones who could possibly survive a piercing strike to the brain woud be Tsunade and Sakura and we don't even know if they would survive that. Hinata's dojutsu would let her dodge those kind of attacks but.

The one thing that I will say after all this is that it probably comes down to Konan and Mei (who I will admit to underestimating) which would be inconclusive. Hinata, Tsunade and Sakura are all melee ranged opponents which them puts at a severe disadvantage. As they can't hit Konan due to her ability to disperse, her flight, sheer range and if they get close, she'll blow a paper bomb in their face to blow them back.

As for Mei, trying to hit Mei physically means going through the mist which is a death sentence to Hinata. Tsunade and Sakura's healing may buy them time but that could just mean that they get a face full of lava. No to mention that Mei has the Hidden Mist Technique so, them finding her before they're taken out is unlikely unless they avoid the mist all together. But if they do that then Konan will start firing off projectiles at them the moment they step out of that mist again, leaving thus between a rock and hard place.

So then it comes down to Konan and Mei and there's not much to write home about. Neither have an effective way of getting at each other. Konan can stay out of Mei's effective range but her attacks are gonna be less effective as Mei, at that point, will have all her attention on her. Not to mention the Hidden Mist Technique.

So Konan and Mei can't effectively get at each other.


 
Range: Hundreds of meters, - show me.

mei.

the way u imagine - maybe

they can dodge most of the stuff, despite speed being equalized, especially from konan, since spears and shuriken are for a lower tiers. konan can be put to sleep via sleep bombs, gg.

Sakura air punch

there are airpalms for hinata, and then there is this for sakura -
also summoning katsuyu disperses the mist and provides some range attacks and possibly protection.

mei vs konan - either konan runs away and loses by default, or dies by mei and loses. konan cant counter the acid mist,

also if mei casts hidden mist then all the more problems for konan, she will not see anyone to attack, while mei might see her in the air.

hidden mist would probably provide some advantage for hinata, since she is the one who could see best through the mist. this is a legit way for hinata to take out mei, or maybe konan depending on circumstances, if hinata goes for sakura or tsunade in the mist, then they will get back up (for reasons already mentioned) and rearrange hinatas' organs with a punch.
 
@Ragazz

The range comes from her dispersing herself into papers and then transporting all that paper to various locations.

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-368/page-13

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-368/page-14

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-368/page-15

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Which she can also contorl to form weapons, bind her target's movements, and suffocate them.

(Lower left panel she forms a spear) http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-371/page-14

Tenor


But we may aswell stop this. It's been a few days and neither one of us has been able to convince the other.

Agree to disagree and see what someone else thinks.
 
neither one here is hundreds of meters range, except for transportation, which is transportation range. this is actually pretty much mid to close range.

yeah i know we wont agree, i was just correcting u all along
 
Sakura is going to win, because she and Tsunade will likely work together. Between the two of them, they can effortlessly one-shot Hinata and tank Mei's best attacks with mitotic Regenerationn.

All that remains then, is a three-way fight between Sakura, Tsunade and Konan. Konan has the range advantage while Sakura and Tsunade have the durability advantage, but Katsuyu can spit giant streams of acid, and should be able to neutralize most of Konan's technique, and finally Sakura would win because of not being an old woman
 
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