You're reversing the burden of proof KT, actually explain what you mean instead of asking Arc another question to his question.
I'm not saying you meant it doesn't affect speed. I'm saying if it affects strength by X amount of time, then speed should be too. Cherry picking isn't the way to go.
Funny how he used the same examples to justify speed not being linear lmao
Running (speed) kicking (AP), muscular energy is your speed and power, your quickness and attack potency, etc etc.
What have I said here that is ban worthy. People can come here and insult and even make sexual jokes but me saying someone has a wrong motive for a downgrade is ban worthy?
If it was gained through more chakra running through the entire body then yes
Nonsequitur
Can you please stop talking, no one cares that you think KT is an evil biased staff, you're acting like Speedster. You're just annoying, people like you make me wanna quit the Naruto verse.
Soy'd response.
I will not derail any longer but I don’t care if you quit the verse it adds Nothing to me. Do you.
The Gates are never stated to be uniform increases. The 2nd Gate in fact specifically amps strength. There's nothing pointing towards both strength and speed being equally increased by the 1st Gate.
Exactly what people are doing in this thread to justify the multiplier
if physical limiters that previously restricted them to 1/5 of their physical potential was lifted why wouldn't it affect all stats? its not like a character getting 5x stronger and people assuming it must have affected speed too.
Tmk this has nothing to do with the 2nd gate? And Occam's Razor for the second point, if I said speed and power increased 5x, the simplest assumption would be speed 5x and AP 5x.
What exactly does "directly" denote semanticallyExactly what people are doing in this thread to justify the multiplier
Are the gates directly stated to amp speed by five times? No? Well too bad, change the multiplier standards if you don't like it
For the record, I'm fully aware this applies to Bleach as well and I don't care
This comparison doesn't work. There needs to be a reason someone could suddenly run five times faster than before. Did he only train his muscles to do that? or did he only train his cardiovascular system to boost his muscle energy? If these two instances are the case, then it means muscle energy boost percentage doesn't correlate with speed boost percentage. But if you equally train your muscles, and cardiovascular system, then there's absolutely no reason to assume you wouldn't gain equal results from them. Might Guy and Lee are consistently shown equally training their muscles and cardio to boost their physicality, which boosts their stats. They don't perform only one type of exercise. If their muscle energy increases, then their speed also increases equally. Moreover, somebody already said this before, there is no antifeats for this. During Guy's final battle with Madara, he complimented both his speed and strength. If Guy's power was the only thing giving Madara trouble, then there's no need for him to complement his speed as well. Madara loves to pinpoint where exactly shinobi's strengths lie. He did it with Tsunade complementing her striking strength, and complementing the raikage for his speed. Tsunade lacked Ay's speed. and Ay, vice versa. Madara took notes on that.
Yes.
Inner gates amp every physical aspect of your body so yes, it should amp lifting strength as well.
Hell not only Bleach, Fairy Tail, Black Clover and One Piece will also easily be affected by this, this is insane lmfaoExactly what people are doing in this thread to justify the multiplier
Are the gates directly stated to amp speed by five times? No? Well too bad, change the multiplier standards if you don't like it
For the record, I'm fully aware this applies to Bleach as well and I don't care
talking out of your ass we use like 2 multipliers that affect AP alone
No way you ducked my providing of the definition of muscular energy and power
I’m going to tackle whatever that is when I get homeNo way you ducked my providing of the definition of muscular energy and power
You know the layperson definition of power is not the scientific definition of power right?
How fast you can punch is how hard you can punch and vise versa. The strength of a hit comes from mass and velocity. If the mass stays relatively the same, the thing changing to increase the power is the velocity.
It's really not. We have direct evidence of the 6th and 8th Gate amping strength and speed linearly, and the difference between the Gates is how far your body is pushed with each subsequent one, it's not like SSJB and UI where the actual mechanics of the form change as you transition.
Running (speed) kicking (AP), muscular energy is your speed and power, your quickness and attack potency, etc etc.
I even thought it was a new argument
Nothing you just said is proportional
You failed to address the argument. Muscular energy refers to your speed and strength from the energy within your muscles. By definition it means strength and speed (from your muscles), so by definition increasing the available muscular energy 5x, would increase the speed and strength you can exert with your muscles by 5x.
It's saying his abilities are amped exponentially with the 6th Gate, meaning it's (Guy's abilities) x (exponential amount), or in other words, his abilities as a whole are amped by an amount. If it wanted to separate them it would've given a different word for one of them. Then it'd be (Guy's AP) x (larger exponential amount) and (Guy's speed) x (smaller exponential amount). Something like "It works by exponentially increasing all of Guy's abilities, and increasing his strength to an incomprehensible level." That sounds like a pedantic argument, but if the word exponential had been replaced with say 30x, then it would be as clear as ice, and there's no real difference besides the fact that exponential isn't giving a set value. It's still an all-around amp. "It works by opening up to six of the Eight Gates and increasing Guy's abilities by 30x." Like if you're looking at this you wouldn't question if it's the same amp to strength and speed. So why does the value not being given change the equation? The word exponential is like an x-factor in the equation but it doesn't change the general structure. From 10(30)+10(30) to 10x+10x.
First of all, the same argument as above applies. The amp is being applied to Guy's physical abilities as an entity, it's not applying amps to each of Guy's components. And secondly, the fact that the amp is several dozen times for all of Guy's physical abilities on its own supports them being close to each other. The range of several dozen isn't that large. Even if Guy's speed was amped by 3 dozen times (minimum of several) while his strength was amped by 6-7 dozen times (which I'd argue is near the top of what you could consider "several"), the strength to speed ratio is still quite close. So even if you call the above argument an attempt at fancy schmancying the same thing I've already said (even though it's not), this still exists.
