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My wall of hax is bigger than yours ~ UKG vs. Lavos

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Lavos: 1 (Cal)

UKG: 6/7? (Me, SD, Genki, Dodo, Blue, Homu, not sure if DMUA meant that he agrees with UKG winning)
 
We also don't see Kriemhild Gretchen actually fight, making it a rather big inequivalence. (Though doppel KG does use the arrows)

Yet not only does she have a massive powerset, but knows just what to do to win?

Its not just one showing. Ophelia has dupes and fire manip, Candeloro has thread manip, etc, etc. This is the equivalent of me asking if this Lavos should even have the hax of his other tabs.

Like Matt said to me in Doom vs Lavos, show the witches having the complex stuff rather than the simple stuff. Just because other witches had simple powers doesn't mean you can upscale that to CONCEPT MANIPULATION

And this is ignoring the fact that Ultimate Madoka isn't the reason UKG has that hax...

Other than her passive stuff and regen, prey tell, where does her other stuff come from?
 
She quite literally has info analysis and I'm 99% sure she is winning right now due to passive abilities, so not sure it even matters what she starts with first.

Complex Stuff? That may take a while but sure. Mind showing the same for Lavos?

From either doing it herself or from the other witches?...

"Via conceptual manipulation that was explicitly witch specific and Madokami's."

...As Madoka creates the concept of Wraiths to replace them and the fact that all "specific abilities" in PMMM are never shown to be specific. (Unless you want to argue Sayaka lacks regen, Kyoko lacks duplication, and Homura can only use time manip when Madoka is involved, etc)

That said, are any of these actually relevant to the vs thread and not just something that should be in the CRT?
 
Oh, I know that Fate would vehemently disagree with this result, but he rather have Lavos lose to BoS Kid Goku than be brought back into another Lavos match. Not even kidding ovo.
 
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