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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Saw the new movie recently and I have to ask
would Bakugo scale to Dark Might and thus prime All Might level characters? Considering his explosions were harming overmodified Dark Might. Also there was some pretty fun scaling of Dark Might apparently being strong enough to destroy the world when overmodified according to Julio, although I was watching the dub version which might be different.
 
1000TonsofFun said:
Saw the new movie recently and I have to ask
would Bakugo scale to Dark Might and thus prime All Might level characters? Considering his explosions were harming overmodified Dark Might. Also there was some pretty fun scaling of Dark Might apparently being strong enough to destroy the world when overmodified according to Julio, although I was watching the dub version which might be different.
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Haven't seen the movie, but from everything I'm seeing, Dark Might has no reason to be Prime All Might level.

Sounds like he's a lot weaker than Quirkless Tomura, which doesn't surprise me in all honesty.

Also, being able to "destroy" the world is incredibly vague. It means nothing unless we're given details. Lots of destroy these world statements could mean destroying human civilization, destroying the planet's surface, killing all life, and ect. Heck, a 7-B character with Relativistic+ speed could "destroy" the world in less than 5 minutes.

Once again, haven't seen the movie. But I don't see him going above High 6-C+ from what I'm hearing.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Haven't seen the movie, but from everything I'm seeing, Dark Might has no reason to be Prime All Might level.

Sounds like he's a lot weaker than Quirkless Tomura, which doesn't surprise me in all honesty.

Also, being able to "destroy" the world is incredibly vague. It means nothing unless we're given details. Lots of destroy these world statements could mean destroying human civilization, destroying the planet's surface, killing all life, and ect. Heck, a 7-B character with Relativistic+ speed could "destroy" the world in less than 5 minutes.

Once again, haven't seen the movie. But I don't see him going above High 6-C+ from what I'm hearing.
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He did say he had surpassed All Might though, multiple times in fact, though he may have been overhyping himself. Plus, he was able to make the massive fortress and by the end formed this massive kaiju body (although it definitely looked closer in size to a smaller kaiju like Skull Island Kong or even Gigantomachia rather than say your MV Godzilla). Also I think him being supposedly able to destroy the world could put him above the pro heroes, such as Mirko. I don’t think he’s stronger than Complete Shigaraki though, cos he got beat pretty easily by Deku using presumably 100% of OFA, whilst Shiggy was able to take attacks from 120% OFA.
 
1000TonsofFun said:
He did say he had surpassed All Might though, multiple times in fact, though he may have been overhyping himself. Plus, he was able to make the massive fortress and by the end formed this massive kaiju body (although it definitely looked closer in size to a smaller kaiju like Skull Island Kong or even Gigantomachia rather than say your MV Godzilla). Also I think him being supposedly able to destroy the world could put him above the pro heroes, such as Mirko. I don’t think he’s stronger than Complete Shigaraki though, cos he got beat pretty easily by Deku using presumably 100% of OFA, whilst Shiggy was able to take attacks from 120% OFA.
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Dark Might has no knowledge of All Might beyond the public perspective.

Also, self statements are not very reliable to begin with. But at the most he's vaguely above Kamino All Might, since that's the only All Might the public ever saw going all out. All Might was getting weaker for years and no one even noticed it, not even All Might himself realized that until he gave OFA away and fought the USJ Nomu.

If Izuku didn't look like this, he wasn't using 100%. From what I've been hearing, Izuku never really goes all out in the movie.

Dark Might doesn't scale to Mirko unless he has feats of scaling to her Rabbit AP. That statement doesn't put him above her.

Nothing I'm hearing is above High 6-C+.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Dark Might has no knowledge of All Might beyond the public perspective.

Also, self statements are not very reliable to begin with. But at the most he's vaguely above Kamino All Might, since that's the only All Might the public ever saw going all out. All Might was getting weaker for years and no one even noticed it, not even All Might himself realized that until he gave OFA away and fought the USJ Nomu.

If Izuku didn't look like this, he wasn't using 100%. From what I've been hearing, Izuku never really goes all out in the movie.

Dark Might doesn't scale to Mirko unless he has feats of scaling to her Rabbit AP. That statement doesn't put him above her.

Nothing I'm hearing is above High 6-C+.
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Maybe we’ll have to wait for creator statements. Deku does state in the movie as well that he hasn’t surpassed All Might yet, but that could be typical Deku underselling himself.
 
1000TonsofFun said:
Maybe we’ll have to wait for creator statements. Deku does state in the movie as well that he hasn’t surpassed All Might yet, but that could be typical Deku underselling himself.
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Pretty sure we already took that as meaning he hasn't surpassed All Might as a Hero, seems weird to think he's talking about how hard he can attack.

The statement is irrelevant in the end, since Izuku's scaling to Tomura is very clear.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Pretty sure we already took that as meaning he hasn't surpassed All Might as a Hero, seems weird to think he's talking about how hard he can attack.

The statement is irrelevant in the end, since Izuku's scaling to Tomura is very clear.
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The context does kind of seem to imply he's weaker, but it's up for debate.
 
SlendVeny said:
The context does kind of seem to imply he's weaker, but it's up for debate.
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It's not up for debate, Izuku is stronger than Tomura who is Prime All Might level.

We have multiple statements and a guide book directly placing Tomura at Prime All Might level. Heck, Izuku directly states he is stronger than All Might in the Final War.

Either the statement is wrong because Izuku is underselling himself or he isn't talking about how hard he can throw a punch. And no, Izuku didn't become stronger in three days.
 
TheRustyOne said:
It's not up for debate, Izuku is stronger than Tomura who is Prime All Might level.

We have multiple statements and a guide book directly placing Tomura at Prime All Might level. Heck, Izuku directly states he is stronger than All Might in the Final War.

Either the statement is wrong because Izuku is underselling himself or he isn't talking about how hard he can throw a punch. And no, Izuku didn't become stronger in three days.
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That's 100% Izuku, he only uses 45% in the movie.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Pretty sure we already took that as meaning he hasn't surpassed All Might as a Hero, seems weird to think he's talking about how hard he can attack.

The statement is irrelevant in the end, since Izuku's scaling to Tomura is very clear.
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Either way, doesn’t really matter as the movie is set before the traitor arc, so he’d be weaker than his Final War self anyway.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Does he ever say 45%?

We aren't going to assume his percentages without reason.

Note: However, 45% is indeed weaker than All Might. Don't believe anyone is contesting that.
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Well, #1, he uses the Faux 100% move, but not by name, and #2, it'd be too funny if it was 5%.
 
SlendVeny said:
Well, #1, he uses the Faux 100% move, but not by name, and #2, it'd be too funny if it was 5%.
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Wouldn't say it's funny if he was using 5%, it'd be more like WTF.

Him using Faux 100% doesn't mean he's using 45%. Faux 100% just means he's using the other Quirks to unleash 100% power without actually being at 100%.

He can use it at 50%, 70%, or any percent above 45. Using it doesn't imply or mean he's at 45%. Especially if he doesn't even say it's Faux 100%
 
The “Faux 100% move” is just his current % + Fa Jin + Blackwhip slingshot. He can do that move and it not be Faux 100% if his base percent is higher.

If Hori ever gave us a number this would be easier, but all we can confirm is that Deku isn’t going all out unless his eyes are glowing or hair is spiked.

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t even going 100% against Shigaraki until he broke his Mid Gauntlets like how the Second warned him would happen.
 
1000TonsofFun said:
Oh I thought it was pre traitor arc. That explains why Aoyama wasn’t there then
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The movie takes place between Chapter 342 and Chapter 343. Izuku wouldn't have his gauntlets if it was Pre-Traitor reveal, since he got them Post-Traitor reveal.

And we know it takes while they're in Troy because Izuku is wearing his Zeta Hero Costume. Izuku didn't get that until after they moved into Troy. Because we see in Chapter 342 that Izuku is still wearing his gym outfit even when going out on patrol, this means his costume isn't ready yet.

To be accurate about the placement, it takes place between these two panels on the last page of Chapter 342.

I find it amazing that if Dark Might just waited an extra week to take Anna, he probably would've been uncontested since everyone would be recovering from the Final War.
 
TheRustyOne said:
The movie takes place between Chapter 342 and Chapter 343. Izuku wouldn't have his gauntlets if it was Pre-Traitor reveal, since he got them Post-Traitor reveal.

And we know it takes while they're in Troy because Izuku is wearing his Zeta Hero Costume. Izuku didn't get that until after they moved into Troy. Because we see in Chapter 342 that Izuku is still wearing his gym outfit even when going out on patrol, this means his costume isn't ready yet.

To be accurate about the placement, it takes place between these two panels on the last page of Chapter 342.

I find it amazing that if Dark Might just waited an extra week to take Anna, he probably would've been uncontested since everyone would be recovering from the Final War.
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Bro would've been borderline unstoppable if he did this shit the day after.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Tsukauchi would quite literally drop dead on the spot from the stress.

Who knows, maybe they can trick an enraged Rewind AFO into attacking Dark Might because he looks like All Might. Let the two of them take each other out.
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I’d like to think that Shiggy would see Dark Might and immediately try to decay him given his hatred of All Might. Poor
Gollini
wouldn’t know what hit him.
 
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I heard endeavor shook the entire floating boat with prominence burn which caused Anna to stumble when Debra used her mind manipulation on her so she could stab the butler. Pretty impressive since dark might was passively making the ship regenerate from every attack it took
 
Danny33wise said:
I heard endeavor shook the entire floating boat with prominence burn which caused Anna to stumble when Debra used her mind manipulation on her so she could stab the butler. Pretty impressive since dark might was passively making the ship regenerate from every attack it took
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From what I recall, he was able to make a hole in the ship for long enough that some civilians out as well. Though I think him shaking the ship (which looked to be a few kilometres in size) would probably be more impressive.
 
Mapl3Sy4up said:
well this got quiet.

Any news on the upgrade threads?
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