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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

You mean Fa Jin.
I thought gearshift could amp himself higher than Fa Jin. Either way, still puts him quite high
Fa Jin, and the majority of popular high 6-A verses are in the exaton range, so he’s still a good 5x off from what I’d say is a powerful high 6-a
There are still a lot of Petaton verses out there from what I’ve seen. Plus, this could just be the first step in the upgrades and the fact he even got there at all is an achievement in itself.
The fact Deku can even get this high at all is astounding in my book as it is.
Agreed
 
I thought gearshift could amp himself higher than Fa Jin. Either way, still puts him quite high
No, Gearshift's power increase is noted as being inferior to Fa Jin.

Izuku's Quintuple Smash was five rapid punches that were enhanced by Gearshift only, yet Tomura noted that move was weaker than his single smash that had Fa Jin.
 
I got a question, was the lasers that Star and Stripe's goons used accepted to be real light ? If not I think I got a strong case for them to be going off the laser beam guidelines
 
The rel comes from her dodging shigaraki's radio waves, and yes they are basically still lightspeeed like 99.99% in atmosphere
Yes I'm aware Star has her scaling from that, but the lasers Shiggy reflected back at them could have a strong case for a Shiggy reaction speed feat
 
Yes I'm aware Star has her scaling from that, but the lasers Shiggy reflected back at them could have a strong case for a Shiggy reaction speed feat
I don't see how. Ignoring the fact I don't think the jet lasers will be accepted as lightspeed.

Tomura doesn't reacts to the lasers until after he's hit. Star's catch was the most impressive feat regarding them and it doesn't compare to the current speed rating.
 
I mean sure ig it just depends on your arguments
If I format it similar to my Jacob's Ladder thread then maybe
I don't see how. Ignoring the fact I don't think the jet lasers will be accepted as lightspeed.
It fullfills four out of the five basic criteria in the laser beam page and the only one it doesnt fullfill is them being called lightspeed, so it arguably also fullfills the "great evidence" criteria aswell

Tomura doesn't reacts to the lasers until after he's hit. Star's catch was the most impressive feat regarding them and it doesn't compare to the current speed rating.
You can argue he activated "Reflect" before they hit him but yeah fair enough, and honestly the current speed rating feels flawed, w the calc stemming from like two assumptions
 
Yeah just now and that's not why I believe the calc is flawed (I heavily disagree with the thread), my problem stems from the assumption of where Star was in the panel used to calc the distance she was moving upwards, and how it wouldn't match the anime's depiction as she was already above the waves when she jumped (this argument is used cuz the initial thread used the anime to debunk the aim dodging argument)
 
Yeah just now and that's not why I believe the calc is flawed (I heavily disagree with the thread), my problem stems from the assumption of where Star was in the panel used to calc the distance she was moving upwards, and how it wouldn't match the anime's depiction as she was already above the waves when she jumped (this argument is used cuz the initial thread used the anime to debunk the aim dodging argument)
What are you talking about? The only thing the anime is used for to tell when Tomura fired, nothing else from the anime scene is allowed to be used.

Tomura aimed and fired his attack at Star, she jumped after it was fired and avoided the attack. Seems simple to me.
 
What are you talking about? The only thing the anime is used for to tell when Tomura fired, nothing else from the anime scene is allowed to be used.
Wouldn't that be cherry picking to use the anime to use one aspect of the feat but ignoring the other ones of it?

What I'm talking about is that we don't know where Star actually was in the manga when Shiggy fired his RW's since we literally don't see her in-panel, she coulda been anywhere here and dodged them (and the assumption that she started from the jet in-panel is invalid as she coulda been in any other jets either covered by RW or anywhere else), with the anime saying she wasn't even in the blast radius, she was straight above it.
Tomura aimed and fired his attack at Star, she jumped after it was fired and avoided the attack. Seems simple to me.
Shigaraki aimed and fired at their general direction yes, but the distance she covered after he fired the attack is from an assumption which I believe is flawed, that's all
 
Wouldn't that be cherry picking to use the anime to use one aspect of the feat but ignoring the other ones of it?
It's not cherry picking, the manga is taken over the anime except for certain instances. The manga doesn't show if Star jumped before Tomura fired or not.

The anime's usage of it just gives us precedent to say she did jump after he fired. Nothing else in the anime is needed or can be used.

What do you mean we don't see where Star is? We see her in front of Tomura and he fired right in front of him. There's no reason to assume these positions changed.

I mean it's not impossible that it did, but nothing suggest the positions did change so we have no reason to assume otherwise.

There's also no reason to assume he wasn't firing directly at Star, who is the biggest threat. Especially when he's using Air Cannon + Heavy Payload.
 
It's not cherry picking, the manga is taken over the anime except for certain instances. The manga doesn't show if Star jumped before Tomura fired or not.

The anime's usage of it just gives us precedent to say she did jump after he fired. Nothing else in the anime is needed or can be used.
That's by definition, cherry picking as you're ignoring data from the anime depiction of the feat but using other data from it to enhance your argument which is still fallacious bro
What do you mean we don't see where Star is? We see her in front of Tomura and he fired right in front of him. There's no reason to assume these positions changed.
Yeah I never disagreed she was in front of Tomura, my circling of the panel shows this 😭. I said we don't know where in front of Tomura she would be, she could've been on-screen right in front of him with that and actually have FTL speed or she could be off-screen and the feat just gets to Rel which is my point. Either way both positions would still be valid; and Star being above the waves basically just makes it a non-feat
I mean it's not impossible that it did, but nothing suggest the positions did change so we have no reason to assume otherwise.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, they're literally flying jets bro so obviously their positions can have volatile change (yet still be in front of Shiggy)
There's also no reason to assume he wasn't firing directly at Star, who is the biggest threat. Especially when he's using Air Cannon + Heavy Payload.
Radio waves is an EMP attack and as such, Shigaraki could've fired at Star to disable her footing. Air Cannon and Heavy Payload wouldn't rlly matter and could also serve to disable the jets. Yes, Star is the biggest threat but that's no reason to assume she was dead center
 
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