The thing is, those guys needed help, they could've been better if they got help at any point, and they are victims of society, a type of person that gets sympathy. Endeavor's an abusive parent, that's not a type of person that gets sympathy.
Prisons aren't meant to be about punishment, they're meant to rehabilitate people. You can't just send off a child suffering from serious psychosis and go "you're worthless, rot in hell forever."
I find it very hard to judge people who have reasonable reasons to hate Endeavor. Many people have been abused by their parents or bullied as a child. That becomes a delicate situation, because their reasons for disliking someone are very valid and personal. So I leave them be, their issues are not something I should entertain.
"Victims of socitey." BS. The only real victims were the people she stabbed. Obv you don't give a shit because we never met them.
So they bring their personal bias against Endeavor, but are much less hostile about Serial killers and Terrorist because that's not something they personally relate too.
Are you human? How can you not comprehend that being treated like a monster for something you can't control since you were a CHILD in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL would leave a person warped in a way that would cause them to fall back into psychosis? Obviously that doesn't excuse their actions, but not even being capable of sympathy for that person is genuinely worrying.
Insanity plea exists for a reason.
Watch Shawshank Redemption
People like Twice though.
All I'm saying is Dragon Ball fans would never give me this argument if I, as a Piccolo or Vegeta fan, said early Roshi was bad.
You are comparing a pervert to a serial killer. Yeah Peaking Tom Unc is somehow being compared to Jeffry Dahmer now.
Calling Toga a cannibal is a little unfair when her Quirk literally requires blood to function and outright gives her a strong compulsion to drink it. It's not like she's actually eating these people.
Bro, Roshi isn't just a "peeping tom" guy, he's touching kids. And actually, I'm comparing Roshi to Endeavor, and Vegeta to a serial killer.
Who said leniency? Insanity plea exists for a reason. If someone commits an act due to violent tendencies created by symptoms of psychosis, and no longer demonstrate those symptoms after being helped with their psychosis, and they no longer demonstrate violent tendencies, they are not a threat anymore.
Toga doesn't eat people, her Quirk literally gives her the desire to consume blood, which can also be animal blood. Her parents saw her bring them a dead bird and go "this is pretty, huh?" and, as parents, should have been like "hey, honey, we don't play with dead animals, you can get really sick," but instead they went "you're a monster and I think you love killing things and drinking their blood, go to Quirk Conversion Therapy, suppress your personality instead of actually addressing the issue." Then, in elementary school, she drank some blood from one of her friends who got injured for a reason unrelated to her, and they went "you're literally not human, 10-year-old, we hate you and you deserve to die." Then, presumably around age 14, she saw blood and went ****** bonkers on a dude with a box cutter because she'd been suppressing herself for nearly a decade. Child Protective Services could have fixed this.
This mf would have shot child Shigaraki dead in the street for accidentally disintegrating his dog.
Well, that's the thing, I already said that.
That's real, but, if the person is no longer a threat, they're no longer a threat. If they no longer exhibit violent tendencies, and previously did due to psychosis, and actively exhibit remorse for there actions... look, they did their time, they're on their meds now, the only thing left is to help them atone.
Yeah, I did, just giving my two cents
As tragic as it may be, a few years in prison is not going to cut it. No, they're going to have to be there for a very long time. For all the people they have hurt, for all the people they have taken the life from. While prison is a place of rehabilitation, or at least it should be, it's also an apt punishment for the misery brought upon others.
Yeah, but I think the prisons they have in MHA aren't helping anyone. Being locked up in a straitjacket with guns pointed at you and having food shoveled into your mouth is just going to make you worse. I feel like you do some time in prison, but not one of the messed up ones, take your meds, then get a lot of community service in there, and that'll be a good start.
Oh for sure, the prisons in MHA are not the best. Hell, it's named Tartarus right? Not the best impressions right off the bat, lol.
I like to imagine the judges say "I sentence you to hell" every time.
Bro tried to sneak Stain in there as neutral
I mean the mf DID help All Might defeat All For One sooo I guess if he lived he'd be given a pardon
I mean neutral in terms of how much of a threat he is compared to other crimnals. Technically, he's only going after people who are abusing the Hero system, it's just that he thinks of someone becoming a hero just because it's a job as abusing the system, which is an incorrect position. Mostly, I mean EoS Stain, who's willing to help out, in EoS society, where only people who actually want to help are becoming heroes. He'd still be ******* up, and he should be in prison, but he's not as bad as someone who's just killing people for no reason. He's neutral amongst supervillains.
Yeah see that's what I'm talking about. He's so god damn. And he killed them for that? Did he kill them or was it just seriously maim? Either way it's very despicable, to do that to heroes who despite seeing hero work as just a job, aren't bad people in the end. Just cause they aren't like All Might in his eyes.
I mean it doesn't really matter anymore. He doesn't really have a head upon his shoulders to think about it, yohohoho.
Actually, forget what I said. He was targeting people who wanted to be heroes for WEALTH, FAME, POWER. GOLD ROGER OBTAINED-
As expected of any aspiring villain
Actually, I don't think that affected his journey at all, it was like a car accident or something.
His ideology is not correct at all, he's clearly deranged. People wanting reward for their work is never treated as a bad thing in universe. Only Stain acts like that.
While I understand your frustration, the world isn't that black and white which is like the entire point of MHA. There is of course a very loud minority of people who think Toga should have been forgiven outright and had all of her crimes forgotten about and be given a happy ending, but such an idea is not conveyed by the majority of people who empathize with her nor the series itself. The core theme of the major final saga fights was coming to understand the circumstances that created these "villainous monsters". What we find, through examining the backstories of these villains and their relation to their heroic counterparts, is that their main issue oftentimes is much greater than some mere cartoonish-ly evil brain chemical from birth. Izuku and Uraraka both conceded this in their encounters with Muscular, Toga, and Shigaraki. Even Todoroki does in his fight with Dabi. The central idea to understand here is that the way society is set up DOES have the potential to contribute to the development of bad apples and villains. Denying this is just denying a fact of human experience, nature vs nurture. Again this does not mean that a bad society excuses these actions, and very few people actually argue this. Instead, it means that maybe a critical eye should be taken to the world to examine the root causes of things like villainy. The second to final chapter of the series solidifies this point pretty well. (Of course, there are flaws with how MHA tackled this theme, but the idea is still not entirely lost)
I was under the impression that he was against people that thought they inherently deserved a reward for helping people, not those that were good either way but preferred getting payed.
Consuming a part of a human is cannibalism.
Forty ******* murders. Stain deserves the chair.
Yes. If you could shoot Hitler and save millions, and don't choose too, you are an accomplice.
I don't believe in fate. Killing an innocent toddler when giving him a good home and protection could prevent his life from being ruined makes you a monster.
One wanted to kill specific races, the the other is out to destroy the planet.
That's a question you should ask Horikoshi.
Yeah, because her quirk isn't about melting people. However, she IS producing acid a bunch.
