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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Blud was at the finish line (Basically Shiggy) but instead decided to taunt (by going to kill AM) because he genuinely is a psycho with a god complex with the arrogance of a brat (lol) but because of that, his own ego made him lose his life as he is just bombarded.
 
I'm convinced Bakugo will assist Deku after this, AFO is going to die before Shigaraki vs Deku actually ends, and Deku won't be able to finish Shiggy beforr Gearshift runs out.
Sero's moment might come with Aizawa/Kurogiri.
 
Praying AFO keeps trying to fight just so Bakugo can curb stomp explode him.

Now I really do wonder if AFO is gonna get completely rewound out of existence or if it’ll stop, cause he has no hope other than that.

I’d say “maybe he has a Quirk up his sleeve” but all his Quirks are stanning Hawks right now and he has no control of them so he’s cooked. I guess if he can steal Bakugo’s Quirk he can do something but adding his vestige to the others sounds like such a terrible idea lmao.

I do believe All Fraud One has Game Over’d against the final boss.
 
In terms of overall progression, not a lot happens in this chapter. But this was the beat down we've been building up towards. AFO's final attack makes his body huge, he's almost 400 meters in size and the shockwave he produced is rather massive. Even sends All Might flying.

Interesting, Bakugo was able to put some of his sweat inside of AFO's mouth back in Chapter 406 and detonated it remotely, which is new for him. That's limited dura negation. We get a page of AFO trying to fight back, sending out a bunch of attacks that Bakugo gets rid of with his explosion barrage. Yeah he's getting no chance here.

Multiple pages of Bakugo beating down AFO back into the ground. Also, AFO's head completely explodes multiple times at this point.

By the end AFO's lost complete control over his Quirks and we even get to see how young AFO was before the big boom.

This is an excellent chapter all around even if I can't say much about it. But safe to say AFO is done and over with now, he'll get another chapter in terms of his character, but the battle is over. He's far too young and his Quirks no longer obey him, his fight is already over.

He'll probably crawl and whine, but he's not getting the fight he thought he was.
 
Afo has it very difficult, and his biggest mistake was joining his mind with Shigaraki, between fighting with half the world and his problem with the Qurks, they made him fall largely for Shigaraki.
 
Gitagon said:
There's no way Zoro shouldn't be able to skywalk sort of like All Might's New Hampshire Smash and pseudo-flight.

Unfortunately it is what it is. He even had trouble jumping certain distances in Wano when he should be able to clear it easily given his physical strength.

I feel like just basic enhanced strength can have so many applications, it's just that most writers ignore that.

Might Guy is another character that utilized superstrength really well including igniting the air around him with his super-fast strikes, throwing air pressure attacks, and even skywalking via sheer strength and speed.

And it's not like the concept of skywalking doesn't exist in One Piece. It is there and even relatively "fodder" Cipher Pol characters can do it. So Zoro has no excuse.
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Yeah sadly the closest Zoro has to Sky walk is Clear Lance, which is just him swinging his swords and creating a shockwave that propels him upwards which basically acts as a double jump. It's unknown if he can even use it multiple times consecutively.
 
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Mr.Cinos15 said:
Yeah sadly the closest Zoro has to Sky walk is Clear Lance, which is just him swinging his swords and creating a shockwave that propels him upwards which basically acts as a double jump. It's unknown if he can even use it multiple times at once.
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Considering he has been consistently stepping around death's dorr he absolutely can do it multiple times, he won't though in-character in a standard setting.
 
Theory time

We're shown and told in chapter 362 that afo and ofa are connecting, that's shown again in chapter 408

This tied with the fact that Shigaraki even if allowed for a second to touch the ground could mean the end of the world, Could be a very good way of taking the deku and shigaraki fight to space. Their bodies and endurance should be good enough to deal with outerspace, especially Shigaraki. So it wouldn't be nonsensical. And they could use the fact that there's a growing connection between AFO and OFA to explain how they'll be able to communicate with each other in space. This would take care of the problem of Shigaraki touching the ground and it would be cool af.
 
Shigaraki maybe, due to regeneration, though I don't think he can last for long. Once his brain dies from oxygen starvation he's done for.

Izuku's blood will be boiling from the pressure difference if he ended up in space. Even if his lungs are strong enough to hold oxygen without rupturing, the liquids inside him will boil meaning they can't keep him alive. Considering Horikoshi drew Shigaraki's eyes boiling when Star did her air erasure thing, he's very much aware of this.

Izuku just needs to keep Shigaraki in the air high enough where even if he breaks Blackwhip he can still catch him and bring him back up before hitting the ground.
 
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ShigarakiShimura said:
Their bodies and endurance should be good enough to deal with outerspace, especially Shigaraki. So it wouldn't be nonsensical
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Maybe, maybe there’s a case for Shigaraki, there is absolutely none for Deku.

It doesn’t matter how strong or durable, or how much endurance Deku has, he cannot survive in space. You can’t just “hold your breath” in space since space causes the oxygen in your body to rip apart your lungs.
 
Maitreya said:
Maybe, maybe there’s a case for Shigaraki, there is absolutely none for Deku.

It doesn’t matter how strong or durable, or how much endurance Deku has, he cannot survive in space. You can’t just “hold your breath” in space since space causes the oxygen in your body to rip apart your lungs.
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And this is why I say people with air Manipulation can just, make a artificial atmosphere around their bodies to fight in space
 
TheRustyOne said:
Shigaraki maybe, due to regeneration, though I don't think he can last for long. Once his brain dies from oxygen starvation he's done for.

Izuku's blood will be boiling from the pressure difference if he ended up in space. Even if his lungs are strong enough to hold oxygen without rupturing, the liquids inside him will boil meaning they can't keep him alive. Considering Horikoshi drew Shigaraki's eyes boiling when Star did her air erasure thing, he's very much aware of this.

Izuku just needs to keep Shigaraki in the air high enough where even if he breaks Blackwhip he can still catch him and bring him back up before hitting the ground.
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Shigaraki has been shown to use air canon to breathe when stuck in a vacuum by Star and Stripes.

Now that he has body adaptation, he could sprout many tiny hands in his lungs that constantly shoot tiny air canons. Lol. Like that would be mega-weird but doable.
 
Maitreya said:
Maybe, maybe there’s a case for Shigaraki, there is absolutely none for Deku.

It doesn’t matter how strong or durable, or how much endurance Deku has, he cannot survive in space. You can’t just “hold your breath” in space since space causes the oxygen in your body to rip apart your lungs.
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If you are durable enough, obviously your lungs can't be ripped apart. Like how do you think characters like Superman, Wonder Woman, Viltrumites, any non-Saiyan high-tier in Dragon Ball, Eternals like Ikaris etc survive in space.

They have sufficient durability and can go long periods of time without needing to breathe.

Their lungs can't be ripped apart even in space.
 
Gitagon said:
If you are durable enough, obviously your lungs can't be ripped apart. Like how do you think characters like Superman, Wonder Woman, Viltrumites, any non-Saiyan high-tier in Dragon Ball, Eternals like Ikaris etc survive in space.
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Why do you think dragon ball characters can’t survive in space despite being so durable?

Some characters can hold their breath in space, while others can’t, it’s verse dependent. Not a durability dependent thing. There is no like specific durability a character can be that you say they can survive in space.
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They have sufficient durability and can go long periods of time without needing to breathe.
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They have the capability to hold their breath in space, but others even with insane durability don’t have that capability to go out in space. It’s like a resistance thing.
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Their lungs can't be ripped apart even in space.
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You know that’s not all that happens to your body in space right? Oxygen doesn’t just expand, it diffuses out of the bloodstream in a vacuum. Hypoxia occurs, your blood starts boiling, liquid water can start entering the bloodstream due to decompression.

This is not just a simple durability thing.
 
Literally any character who can make forcefields and air manipulate can make a forcefield around themselves and make a artificial atmosphere around themselves in the full body forcefield
 
Well nothing in the Rewind AFO fight gave Bakugo anything, since he didn't compete with him in power at all. He even admits he couldn't hope to beat AFO here if it'd not been for everyone's help. Also, he doesn't have remote detonation, he was just hoping that his sweat would explode from whatever AFO was doing in that moment.

The only change on his profile would be his speed with Cluster.

Maybe we can add the fact he's weaker than Endeavor on his profile.
 
Can we use this to argue shigaraki can see spirits? Since he's not in the vestige world and nobody before this has commented on deku's vestiges appearing.
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ShigarakiShimura said:
Can we use this to argue shigaraki can see spirits? Since he's not in the vestige world and nobody before this has commented on deku's vestige appearing.
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He probably can't see spirits in general. It's just because of the connection he has with One For All.
 
It's explained the reason they can see each other is because OFA and AFO are resonating with each other.

Just as he can see them, they are able to see AFO's vestige as well.
 
ShigarakiShimura said:
Oh it's explicitly explained?
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Same chapter you got that scan, towards the end.

Yoichi states that OFA and AFO are resonating with each other and that he can see his brother.

AFO is also confused on why he can see them so clearly this isn't a normal thing.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Same chapter you got that scan, towards the end.

Yoichi states that OFA and AFO are resonating with each other and that he can see his brother.

AFO is also confused on why he can see them so clearly this isn't a normal thing.
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Oh, I thought when Yoichi said that he meant in the vestige world he could see his brother. Because the panel showing AFO is not next to shigaraki like the vestiges were next to deku. Plus deku didn't comment on it. But yeah that's fair.
 
ShigarakiShimura said:
Btw, does Non-Physical Interaction mean you can interact with things like spirits?
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Only if you have feats of doing such a thing.

Being able to physically grab fire or something doesn't mean you can touch a intangible ghost. In the same vain, touching a ghost doesn't mean you can touch fire or something. These are two different methods of "intangibility".
 
No, I'm going to make my calculation on it to find lifting strength in the future. The clones didn't even cover that much area on foot, they were teleported to every single battlefield. Not including the hospital. She didn't even lift all of the clones that covered the area they were at, just the majority of them.

We can basically get a good idea of how many she lifted using those panels, which I'll deal with in the future.
 
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