Garaki and Endeavor's juxtaposition further highlights Hori's intended comparison.
Garaki compares Shigaraki to Prime All Might is made obvious by circumstantial evidence written by Hori.
It can be observed with Shigaraki's power progression from Weakened All Might level (PLF Raid arc) to Prime All Might level (War arc)
As noted by Kingofwolves, Aizawa compares Shigaraki to both the USJ Nomu and the High Ends, both shown in the same scan, both referencing how they injured Aizawa.
During the first war, Endeavor and Garaki make references to All Might, with no mention of "prime". Where Endeavor says he rivals All Might (with an image of non-prime All Might in mind), and Garaki says it's not quite on par with him in the same panel. However,
Eraser says the USJ Nomu is easily on All Might's level in strength, and Shigaraki affirms this.
Now, unless Garaki is either lying to Shigaraki or misremembering, he's affirming that the USJ is physically stronger than remodeled Shigaraki. However, physical strength is only one small part of how powerful one can be. Power is one of the 4-5 stats Horikoshi lists in his databooks.
The USJ Nomu whom was stated by Garaki to be of inferior tier to High Ends.
The USJ Nomu whom was compared by Aizawa to High Ends and Shigaraki.
Shigaraki who's stated by Garaki to be inferior to All Might, yet his perfect creation.
Shigaraki who they had to stop waking up by all means according to Mirko, and Garaki think they've already won when Shigaraki wakes up.
All Might, who is ranked above the HEN's according to Horikoshi, and so on.
It's pretty clearly set up that Shigaraki is superior to the average HEN, while physically inferior to All Might, with no mention of "prime".
This is explicitly what Horikoshi has written down in the databooks.
Correct, Prime All Might is stronger than Shigaraki at that time.
There's no mention of prime. It happens in the same panel when Endeavor says his power is just like All Might's with an image of non-prime All Might.
Paying attention to the details, the perfected Nomu being weaker than Weakened All Might is nonsensical with the existence of High Ends and the USJ Nomu, combined with multiple statements from those who observed and fought the USJ Nomu and All Might. Hori intends to compare Shigaraki to the USJ Nomu and High Ends, effectively comparing him to Weakened All Might, as opposed to Prime All Might.
Could you rephrase this? I'm not sure if I follow your argument. Are you saying that Garaki can't be talking about the same All Might he used as a reference to create the USJ? Maybe I misunderstood, but this has been addressed.
Characters on Weakened All Might's level were incapable of dealing serious damage to him, although were able to accumulate damage, further increasing his credibility.
Horikoshi's intent is obvious.
Yeah, Hori's intent is obvious since he literally gave us his idea of their power in the databook. With All Might at an S+, Hood at S, and Mirko at an A+. All of this fits into the story I'm interpreting but seems to contradict your guy's interpretation of Mirko being vastly superior.
Now this is a blatant lie.
I've been in these types of spaces for more than 10 years, and I haven't told a single lie. I've been incorrect, I've been unclear, made mistakes, but never lied. What am I lying about? If you're referring to the databook reference, I'm not saying I brought it up in the comment you responded to, I'm saying it's a source affirming my view, and contradicting your view.
First and foremost, Rusty was the only one I can find who referenced the databooks, and his entire post supports my arguments with credible receipts. As far as my comments go, excluding Mirko and Endeavor scaling to High Ends, the things I've addressed include but are not limited to:
To be crystal clear, as mentioned above, Horikoshi ranked All Might and AFO with an S+ in power, Mirko is an entire tier below them, at A+, and Hood, the HEN, was at S. Additionally, that AFO was weakened post Kamino. This seems to reinforce exactly what I'm suggesting. Horikoshi's own intent.
Most of these arguments have either been ignored, or was met with disingenuous attempts of dismissing them for being "debate powerscaling".
It's all fine and dandy, but there's no purpose continuing a conversation with a party that's already halfway from being stonewalling.
I'm just trying to have a conversation where I think I'm exposing some pretty notable flaws in the arguments built up around the scaling chain.
For example Horikoshi's intention. You literally suggested that not only was I wrong, but it was like spitting in Hori's face, because I'm not fully convinced by your scaling chain, but thankfully for me, we know for a fact that Horikoshi has All Might as more powerful than Mirko and the HEN's according to the databooks, and that AFO was weaker when facing Endeavor and Hawks.
As I mentioned earlier, if there's something you think I've avoided or been unclear about, just ask me to clarify and I'd be happy to!
What you're describing is the details of the fight.
The mention of Kamino alone was intended to portray the High End as a threat comparable to Kamino. Especially when most of the damages in Kamino happened while All Might was absent.
The lack of a Symbol is part of the situation. A scenario tends to have multiple meanings at once.
I think this is a bad interpretation. And I think most people reading it would understand the sequence as I did.
Here are the panels in question.
Where Endeavor is downed with ease again, they think no one is there to stop Hood, and if they don't get every civilian away it would eventually make Kamino look like nothing. There's no implication here that Endeavor vs Hood is on the same scale as All Might vs AFO. But that the results would be far more devastating given that it seemed like no one could stop Hood.
