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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

After inspecting Two Heroes and reading the wiki a bit, I found this scene/scan.

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This scene is from Two Heroes. A scene from where David Shield is measuring All Might's quirk AP. Which is referred to as quirk numbers. Which in the context of the series, should refer to his power. Pretty basic stuff.

If you zoom in a little bit, you'll notice how as of now, his quirk AP in the movie sat or close to 2500 AP, while in his prime, before he fought All For One, it sat at 15000 AP. Which is a 6 times difference. Implying that Prime All Might is 6 times stronger than he was in Two Heroes.

Thoughts? @Insert_creative_name_here_12 @Therefir @Damage3245 @Kingofwolves999 @Gitagon @Crimson_Shadow101 @Jackof_noTrades068
 
I know some verses use multipliers for tiering, but I'm not sure if it's evaluated on a case by case basis or not and the requirements to meet them. This is interesting but I'm not sure how much of a help I can be to this.
 
Some people already use that multiplier.
If we're gonna use that as a 6x multiplier for Two Heroes All Might's AP, then that still puts him at 7-B in his Prime. I personally feel like it's not a conclusive evidence of his actual power during his prime but it's a good supporting evidence nonetheless. Like "implied to be around 6 times stronger than his weakened state" in his AP justification, I guess.
 
I don't know how I'd feel about using that as evidence of a multiplier. We don't know what exactly those numbers measure. We don't know if they're measuring raw Quirk power, or something else.
 
VersusJunkie54 said:
I don't know how I'd feel about using that as evidence of a multiplier. We don't know what exactly those numbers measure. We don't know if they're measuring raw Quirk power, or something else.
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Given how David is saying how All Might's power is declining via discovering this data? It's obvious it refers to his power/strength.
 
Earthyboy said:
After inspecting Two Heroes and reading the wiki a bit, I found this scene/scan.

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This scene is from Two Heroes. A scene from where David Shield is measuring All Might's quirk AP. Which is referred to as quirk numbers. Which in the context of the series, should refer to his power. Pretty basic stuff.

If you zoom in a little bit, you'll notice how as of now, his quirk AP in the movie sat or close to 2500 AP, while in his prime, before he fought All For One, it sat at 15000 AP. Which is a 6 times difference. Implying that Prime All Might is 6 times stronger than he was in Two Heroes.

Thoughts? @Insert_creative_name_here_12 @Therefir @Damage3245 @Kingofwolves999 @Gitagon @Crimson_Shadow101 @Jackof_noTrades068
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I wouldn't put too much stock into this tbh. Its been shown now over the last few arcs that OFA doesn't follow any type of multiplier. 45% Midoriya is far far more powerful than 5-6x what an 8% Midoriya showed based off showings.

Hell during the fight with Nine a 20% Midoriya showings were much more than 2.5x what an 8% Midoriya showed
 
RidleyX said:
I wouldn't put too much stock into this tbh. Its been shown now over the last few arcs that OFA doesn't follow any type of multiplier. 45% Midoriya is far far more powerful than 5-6x what an 8% Midoriya showed based off showings.

Hell during the fight with Nine a 20% Midoriya showings were much more than 2.5x what an 8% Midoriya showed
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This isn't a percentage of One for All. This just shows the difference between Prime All Might and current All Might. You can't compare them.
 
Deku should probably eventually removed from the Heroes in Training section of the MHA page, since he's no longer a student. His status will be confirmed the next chapter whether he's gonna be classified as a full blown Pro, a Vigilante, or something else. Considering he also only has a provisional license and not a Pro one.
 
It might also represent other things apart from power, like stamina or endurance.

Also since OFA is a stockpile quirk which basically stores energy like a battery, and this graph was after All Might passed it to Deku, it might represent All Might's leftover capacity.

Because if OFA stores energy like a battery, let's say All Might had 1000 units of energy at his Prime, when injured and having passed the quirk to Deku, he could have been left with less than 100 units per given unit of time before recovery.

If we assume each max power punch consumes 20 units of power, then Prime All Might would be able to throw countless max power hits while weakened/injured All Might gases out after a few hits sort of explaining the time limit when we know his Prime version couod work 72 hours to a week straight without gassing out.
 
Gitagon said:
It might also represent other things apart from power, like stamina or endurance.

Also since OFA is a stockpile quirk which basically stores energy like a battery, and this graph was after All Might passed it to Deku, it might represent All Might's leftover capacity.
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You need the actual evidence for that assumption though. At least it's implied that the graph represents All Might's power given David's wording and the context of the series.
 
Earthyboy said:
You need the actual evidence for that assumption though. At least it's implied that the graph represents All Might's power given David's wording and the context of the series.
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Like I said earlier, if you believe you have a case for a multiplier from that Two Heroes scan, I'd highly encourage you to make a CRT about it. It's worth a shot at least.
 
OH YES, HORIKOSHI THANK YOU. Deku is about to put Muscular in the DIRT and I can’t wait. Rematch of Deku’s lifetime right here. I can’t wait another week, I’m dying.
 
Short chapter, but hard to complain considering all the hard work and beauty Hori has given us the last 3 months with no breaks whatsoever. At least this gives us a bit more insight into what the state of affairs are like around Japan at least on the ground level.
 
No reason to bring Shindo if he's gonna job lol. Anyway not that excited to see Deku in action , was the least interesting stuff about MHA.
 
Deku’s eyes are GLOWING LIKE ALL MIGHTS when he has the hood up. He looks menacing as hell with the hood and mask on, exactly like his prototype design. Muscular is about to get tossed all around this city like a baseball.
I’m curious to whether he’s upped his percentage or not after his dream with the vestiges.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Deku’s eyes are GLOWING LIKE ALL MIGHTS when he has the hood up. He looks menacing as hell with the hood and mask on, exactly like his prototype design. Muscular is about to get tossed all around this city like a baseball.
I’m curious to whether he’s upped his percentage or not after his dream with the vestiges.
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I didn't notice that they were glowing. Is it faint or?
 
Just the possibilities of this fight are making me go crazy. Are his arms done for when it comes to fights? Can he restrain muscular with Black Whip? How is he going to incorporate Float and Danger Sense into his fighting style? He just pushed Muscular back with AIR PRESSURE ALONE, how strong even is he now? Does Muscular have any new tricks? Do AFO and Shiggy know he's here?

There is so much that this fight is going to tell us not only about the plot but scaling in general. If Deku can really clash with Muscular, who could, in the form he is in right now, take hits from his old 100%, the strength he's been gaining over the course of a year and his upped percentages might be getting downplayed heavily by everyone.
 
Alright, if Deku slaps full powered muscular with 5%, are we giving him a new key or are we just slapping that onto his latest key?
 
Unless he says something along the lines of getting stronger since his fight with Shiggy, it would all be the same key. Which would mean Shiggy and Endeavor are far stronger than Low 7-B.

In fact, if Izuku winds up doing this, the whole "High Ends are superior to USJ Nomu" thing might be very very real.
 
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