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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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Oof, is Mirko dead now?
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Mid chapter
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Creation
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Why? Lol.
she is injured but doesn't die and even bullies Shigaraki with Lunar Rush. Then when Shiggy is about to land a blow on her, Mirio interferes and covers his eyes blinding him. Mirko lands another kick. Shiggy then gets a flashback of his family and they basically pop out of his body.
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Transmutation, Biological Manipulation and Life Manipulation I guess?
Crazy how many abilities in BASE Shigaraki will have:
Size Manipulation
Body Control
Large Size (Type 2)
Reactive Evolution
Adaptation
Life Manipulation
Biological Manipulation
Transmutation
Resistances to:
Poison Manipulation
Plasma Manipulation
Crazy how many abilities in BASE Shigaraki will have:
Size Manipulation
Body Control
Large Size (Type 2)
Reactive Evolution
Adaptation
Life Manipulation
Biological Manipulation
Transmutation
Resistances to:
Poison Manipulation
Plasma Manipulation
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The way you wording it make it Mirko going to die lel
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That's what I thought too when I saw the chapter title since it's something like "No.4 and No.5 heroes".
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I don't think Transmutation fits, but Bio and Life fit since he's subconsciously manipulating his own body to produce those things. And looking at other profiles it could grant him Creation, and Duplication as well with the already mentioned Biological and Life Manipulation.
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Shigaraki became weaker because he's scared, just FYI according to the leaks.
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MHA fans trying to be literate (Impossible)
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A lot of people can't read.
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More like Shigaraki took a fraction of the energy of the ballistic missiles, maybe like 1/1000th of them.
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It's still BS like Shigaraki from the previous war took way more damage and now he is supposedly at 100%, Mirko staggering Shigaraki when she struggled with weaker high-ends reeks inconsistent. Horikoshi continuing the path towards voided logic.
I'm aware he's under erasure which means no hyper-regen but still, Cathleen when she was comparing her lasers said if they were enough Endeavor would've been able to finish the job who should be above.
Little personal rant over as this is making Shiggy look incomptent and honestly weak aside, I guess Prime All Might Bakugou is the only accepting standard for this.
I'm aware he's under erasure which means no hyper-regen but still, Cathleen when she was comparing her lasers said if they were enough Endeavor would've been able to finish the job who should be above.
Little personal rant over as this is making Shiggy look incomptent and honestly weak aside, I guess Prime All Might Bakugou is the only accepting standard for this.
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Buddy Mirko is the strongest physical hero other than OFA/AFO and was one shotting High Ends with her kicks. The fact she’s only staggering Shigaraki, and only even doing THAT because he’s weakened by Bakugo’s Howitzer, is not that insane.
Struggled against High Ends?? Her kicks were tearing them apart it’s just her durability is terrible, her Attack power is at exactly where it should be.
Also, given the damage her kicks are doing, she literally can’t kill him before he kills her. He’s casually tearing her apart while she needs him to be off guard or get help from Jeanist and Mirio just to not die instantly. Her kicks are doing bruises to him not like they’re breaking bones or ripping apart his flesh.
Star said that about a Shigaraki who had regen. If he didn’t have regen vs Star she would have killed him within seconds just from her “No Air” rule. So idk what that has to do with Mirko slightly damaging a stronger Shigaraki without regen. Her kicks are doing less damage than Star’s base punch did to a weaker Shigaraki.
ShigAFO is incompetent for not killing Mirko instantly but that’s literally just AFO being stupid and gloating which we all know, and now he’s freaking out because Bakugo is triggering Second User PTSD. Other than that he’s weakened by Bakugo’s Howitzer and got blinded by Mirio before he could kill Mirko, who is sacrificing limbs to do what she’s doing already. So I don’t see any issues with what is currently happening (fight/scaling wise). If anything this is extremely consistent.
Struggled against High Ends?? Her kicks were tearing them apart it’s just her durability is terrible, her Attack power is at exactly where it should be.
Also, given the damage her kicks are doing, she literally can’t kill him before he kills her. He’s casually tearing her apart while she needs him to be off guard or get help from Jeanist and Mirio just to not die instantly. Her kicks are doing bruises to him not like they’re breaking bones or ripping apart his flesh.
Star said that about a Shigaraki who had regen. If he didn’t have regen vs Star she would have killed him within seconds just from her “No Air” rule. So idk what that has to do with Mirko slightly damaging a stronger Shigaraki without regen. Her kicks are doing less damage than Star’s base punch did to a weaker Shigaraki.
ShigAFO is incompetent for not killing Mirko instantly but that’s literally just AFO being stupid and gloating which we all know, and now he’s freaking out because Bakugo is triggering Second User PTSD. Other than that he’s weakened by Bakugo’s Howitzer and got blinded by Mirio before he could kill Mirko, who is sacrificing limbs to do what she’s doing already. So I don’t see any issues with what is currently happening (fight/scaling wise). If anything this is extremely consistent.
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And that would be fine, if it wasn't for the fact that in the previous war[Jaku] when his new body was incomplete, 75 percent even half-baked as Ujiko put it went up against possibly the strongest hero team currently alive/active in japan and ended wishstanding all of there attacks.
Now.. where his body has now been supposedly perfected, should be far more capable than when it was in the previous war[refer to the start of this war] only after being hit with one all out attack from Bakugou is he now become vulnerable to taking damage and is sticking onto him.
reminder not even Endeavour the #2 hero who narratively should still be above Bakugou could only get Shigaraki to say "that hurt" sneeringly with a half baked body. It just doesn't sit right with me that after all this time his perfected body is being shown more vulnurable than his weaker iterations were in the previous war and S&S but I suppose you may be right on the latter.
I misremembered that scene so details may have slipped my mind, sorry. Anyway IIRC didn't doc Ujiko say those high ends haven't even begun leaving there testing phase? would they in anyway scale to the high-end, I could totally just be sleeping on Mirko that she's stronger than I thought but I remember there being a lot of emphasis on them not being to par with the one Enji fought since the heroes were the ones rushing them.
I ain't saying Mirko's going to kill Shigaraki, and yeah there's no way that can happen anyway since this is shonen jump and nothing really meaningful can happen to the big bad until the[goku] protagonist shows up, I didn't initially notice mirio blinding him sorry. Yeah I get what you're saying Shigaraki is so OP they need to be given all of this just to stall him for Deku to arrive and save the day.
I was just taking issue with a perfected Shigaraki being shown vulnerable this early, feels like Horikoshi doesn't know how to make Shigaraki lose so he's just throwing whatever coming into his pen.
That is true, though still. She DID compare the big laser to Endeavour who is the 2nd strongest hero currently in work circulation and said it ain't enough to take him out. He was also not perfect here as AFO confirmed he was at 97-98% and before his body had begun going through adaptive mutation.
So I guess Bakugou's become even more powerful than Endeavour since after re-reading it it seems the Howitzer Cluster did more major lasting damage, I know his deal is he has an amazing quirk and he's the deuteragonist of this story but as a boy it feels off but I'll digress this point.
lol AFO just shat himself and said "f this I'm bouncing, Shiggy you deal with it", rest yeah I agree the AFO thing tendancy he does and it's annoying when you're just like "just kill the freaking hero already, think your embracing western american comics a little bit too much with the monologuing there mr demon lord"
How is this consistent when we've had weaker depictions of Shiggy's incomplete body coping against similar pressure yet this early in the 2nd half of the war and his body is already getting damaged and no OFA user is even here and before every hero here gets another power up from a quirk awakening.
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I find this argument pointless when the Nomu did survive the same attack despite being tossed out as a diversion. It took the direct hit and lived. And at this point it is pretty clear Shigaraki's durability>>High-ends by a clear margin.
Like even with Mirko's kick, her direct kicks could shave through High-ends but can't even
make Shigaraki bleed.
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Mirko would demolish most High-ends in a 1 on 1. The only reference you have to shit on her is a 5 v 1 fight.
Even Endeavor was messed up when in a 2 v 1 with Hawks against just 1 High-end.
Also let's not pretend that Mirko's attacks weren't way greater than High-end durability.
The fact that Shigaraki is tanking them without even bleeding shows how much his durability even when quirkless is magnitudes greater than High-ends' durability. The High-ends were getting shaved through like butter.
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Ah yeah, like always, I'll just come back Monday when the debate actually matters since the officials would be out by then.
Having to click on these stupid spoiler tags for multiple posts is annoying.
Having to click on these stupid spoiler tags for multiple posts is annoying.
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Can’t believe this is actually a weakness for Shiggy
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AFO being such a bitch that he nerfs Shigaraki with his ptsd of the Second is hilarious and completely consistent with his character.
The Second must have put the fear of GOD into AFO to make him this scared. Like, not even people reminding him of All Might is enough to make him actively worse in combat.
Im assuming, since the Second was probably the first to straight up oppose AFO with his comrades, that the Second beat the shit out of AFO horrendously before he rose to his peak power. Must have been really early too, like when AFO was in his 30-40s rather than a 200 year old mastermind.
Also makes me even MORE excited to know the Second’s Quirk if he can genuinely frighten AFO just by AFO being reminded of him.
The Second must have put the fear of GOD into AFO to make him this scared. Like, not even people reminding him of All Might is enough to make him actively worse in combat.
Im assuming, since the Second was probably the first to straight up oppose AFO with his comrades, that the Second beat the shit out of AFO horrendously before he rose to his peak power. Must have been really early too, like when AFO was in his 30-40s rather than a 200 year old mastermind.
Also makes me even MORE excited to know the Second’s Quirk if he can genuinely frighten AFO just by AFO being reminded of him.
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The second’s quirk has to be something like disani water, the dryness of a thousand suns
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The Second was beating AFO like he was MegaMan and AFO never recovered from it.
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For sure Edgeshot needs small size, up to Type 3. Since at max he can become the size of surgical suture, which are less than 1 mm in size. Though that is obviously his max, we know he can enter people's bodies and pierce a small enough hole in the lungs that isn't fatal.
Shigaraki comes at Jeanist and Bakugo, once again I don't think making Shiggy aware of you was the best course of action. He was mostly focused on Mirko and the others until Edgeshot screamed out and made it clear he was trying to save Bakugo. Like he was just going to toy around with the others until he yelled.
Mirko landed a direct kick on Shigaraki's face and he's looking pretty good. That's a very good scaling for Shigaraki/Prime All Might, as that places them above attacks that can bisect High-End Nomu. And Mirko loses her other arm, great now she has no arms at all. Though her kick did make him stagger and even knocked him down for a second. Which seems to be surprising him.
Shiggy says his body can't feel pain, we'll have to wait for the official translation as this could be different. Shiggy said he felt pain or was bothered by Bakugo's earlier attack. The translation is weird so I need to wait for the officials to really understand what is happening. Or maybe next chapter. But he's threaten by Bakugo.
I thought Mirko was a rabbit yet she looking more like a mad dog.
And Mirko's Luna Rush, I think it drew blood. Yeah Shigaraki has some blood coming from his mouth, only happens due to a barrage of kicks though. Shows how much more durable Shiggy has become. So good scaling for Prime All Might level characters. Need to see officials or next chapter to gauge what is happening to Shiggy.
Tenko is gaining more control it looks like, but he's turning into Tomura? His hair is turning white and his itch is returning. God that growth is really disgusting. He was already growing faces but now he's growing entire people? I really wonder where this growth is going to end up.
Shigaraki comes at Jeanist and Bakugo, once again I don't think making Shiggy aware of you was the best course of action. He was mostly focused on Mirko and the others until Edgeshot screamed out and made it clear he was trying to save Bakugo. Like he was just going to toy around with the others until he yelled.
Mirko landed a direct kick on Shigaraki's face and he's looking pretty good. That's a very good scaling for Shigaraki/Prime All Might, as that places them above attacks that can bisect High-End Nomu. And Mirko loses her other arm, great now she has no arms at all. Though her kick did make him stagger and even knocked him down for a second. Which seems to be surprising him.
Shiggy says his body can't feel pain, we'll have to wait for the official translation as this could be different. Shiggy said he felt pain or was bothered by Bakugo's earlier attack. The translation is weird so I need to wait for the officials to really understand what is happening. Or maybe next chapter. But he's threaten by Bakugo.
And Mirko's Luna Rush, I think it drew blood. Yeah Shigaraki has some blood coming from his mouth, only happens due to a barrage of kicks though. Shows how much more durable Shiggy has become. So good scaling for Prime All Might level characters. Need to see officials or next chapter to gauge what is happening to Shiggy.
Tenko is gaining more control it looks like, but he's turning into Tomura? His hair is turning white and his itch is returning. God that growth is really disgusting. He was already growing faces but now he's growing entire people? I really wonder where this growth is going to end up.
Pretty okay chapter, just mostly more setup for a future chapter. There will be a break for MHA, so we have to wait two weeks for the next chapter. Saw nothing of Prime AFO or Dabi, wonder how those fights will be settled. Honestly we're seeing far more of the Shigaraki fight than I ever expected.
Izuku has been strangely absent and I'm still on the fence if those dots were backup or villains coming for him. Izuku is going to have a big damn hero moment when he shows up, and coming with backup from foreign heroes would be a pretty good moment. But stomping assassins sent by AFO would also be pretty cool.
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I deadass just saw a mf say "If Mirko dies for Bakugou all of the Bakugou slander becomes valid"
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Yup, people are once again accusing Horikoshi of misogony just because he's okay with females getting hurt/killed...I deadass just saw a mf say "If Mirko dies for Bakugou all of the Bakugou slander becomes valid"
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I think it's more so of them just hating Bakugou as a character lol. I don't think it's that deep.
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Yeah, Bakugo has a lot of haters. Probably the main reason people have been complaining constantly about him being saved rather than "stakes". If he actually died the way he did, he would be the deuteragonist to go out without even achieving anything - stomped, humiliated, then die. It wasn't even a heroic sacrifice or anything, just a one-sided beatdown where he landed like 2 attacks max.
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