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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

It maybe possible to say Iida is only 1 px tall. Since there is a point where the flash isn't there but you still can't see him.

When it comes to distance like this, where a character is so far away they can't be seen, we can use 1 px size for them.

Using that: 1.79*720/[1*2*tan(70deg/2)] = 920.298576 meters

Speed = 920.298576/0.0533344 = 17255.2532 m/s or Mach 50.30 (High Hypersonic+)

However I'm uncertain about all of this, since I have no idea if the 1 px thing is actually good here. And the problem with the anime and manga I listed above.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
It maybe possible to say Iida is only 1 px tall. Since there is a point where the flash isn't there but you still can't see him.

When it comes to distance like this, where a character is so far away they can't be seen, we can use 1 px size for them.

Using that: 1.79*720/[1*2*tan(70deg/2)] = 920.298576 meters

Speed = 920.298576/0.0533344 = 17255.2532 m/s or Mach 50.30 (High Hypersonic+)

However I'm uncertain about all of this, since I have no idea if the 1 px thing is actually good here. And the problem with the anime and manga I listed above.
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Iida should absolutely be 1 px tall
 
SuperStar said:
First calc was Mach 4.19 and with a small change it's Mach 50 now I don't know how you people can do this
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1 px vs 12 pixels is actually pretty big.

12 px is 12X higher than 1 pixel. My original distance was 76.691548 meters.

76.691548 x 12 = 920.298576 meters. The same value as the new distance I got.

What looks likes a small change can have a chance of drastically changing results. This is one of the many reasons calcs needs evaluations, since the smallest error could cause a massive difference in results. Such as One Piece's King Kong Gun calc going from 210 Gigatons with a mistake versus the actual results of 5.8 kilotons.

One mistake inflated the results 36176751.4 times higher than the actual result.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Did my own version and got Mach 4.19 or Supersonic+

Difference? I used the speed they were actually moving on screen, since we can see how fast they're moving and don't need to make an assumption.

Also your angular size was off. I didn't know what you were talking about in your above comment, but now I understand.

Angular Size formula would like this: 1.79*328/[1.79*2*tan(70deg/2)]

Not like this: 1.79*328/[1.79*2tan(70/2)]

You need to put the deg there. Also you put the numbers in wrong as well. And the screen height for the scan you uploaded to imgur is 1165 px.

Angular Size = object size*panel height in pixels/[object height in pixels*2*tan(70deg/2)]

1.79*1165/[7*2*tan(70deg/2)] = 212.72 meters.

Now I looked frame by frame and never saw Iida's shadow or silhouette. So using the light when it's this shape seems to be the more accurate way of gauging Iida's distance. However due to the heavily stylized nature of this light covering him, I suspect finding an actual distance he traveled is impossible.

Mine is a low ball, but we have nothing else that could make me use a smaller size for Iida in the scan.

Also the feat is slightly different in the anime vs the manga. In the anime Oijiro loses his balance and falls as Kaibara vibrates the pipe, and takes advantage of the opening. However in the manga this doesn't happen, Oijiro was just blocking his attacks and Iida suddenly came in and grabbed him mid swing.

Ojiro was never falling. So I'm uncertain if this feat can be used, even if we found a better way to get the distance Iida had to travel.
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If you’re calcing the anime version why not just include Ojiro falling? It would be different if you calculated the manga

Also I’m not sure how you managed to calc Kaibara’s speed, the POV makes it look weird. I don’t see the issue with the assumption considering we use it on a number of other student calcs
 
And the anime, for some reason, made the feat look slower for Kaibara than the rest of his actual previous feats in the Ojiro fight: which is why I went with the Superhuman assumption since it’s fairly consistent in-verse

Doesn’t make sense for Kaibara to suddenly move at Average Human even though it isn’t consistent throughout the fight
 
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AFO should have Type 1 multiple selves for the Quirks within him that he can control to attack things within his mind such as New Order (though he can’t destroy them). These Quirks are sentient and have their own willpower, so there are literally multiple minds within him that he just keeps under his control. He should also have Resistance to Mind Manipulation and Possession since he can resist his Quirks when they try to rebel and stop him, a purely mental struggle that was effecting his real body, but that he overcame by beating/eating them.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Really? Exact opposite for me, I really like the opening song from what I've heard.

Got the high energy feel MHA openings usually have, thought it fit the action scenes on screen pretty well.
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it feels very in line with MHA's other openings imo, im just hoping the animations during the opening can match the song.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
AFO should have Type 1 multiple selves for the Quirks within him that he can control to attack things within his mind such as New Order (though he can’t destroy them). These Quirks are sentient and have their own willpower, so there are literally multiple minds within him that he just keeps under his control.
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TheRustyOne said:
He does not constantly suppress the consciousnesses of the previous owners of the Quirks he's stolen. This is the first time anything like this has happened to him, and he's never had to do anything like this. We still don't really know why this is happening now, since it didn't happen in his fight with All Might. Best not to mention things like this.
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Kingofwolves999 said:
He should also have Resistance to Mind Manipulation and Possession since he can resist his Quirks when they try to rebel and stop him, a purely mental struggle that was effecting his real body, but that he overcame by beating/eating them.
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Type 1 (Multiple Minds): Generally describes those who has one or more personas or personalities co-inhabiting their mind. Note that characters that simply suffer from a dissociative identity disorder (also known as multiple personality disorder) don't normally qualify for this ability; in order to meet the requirements, their alternative identities must be extremely relevant, influent and grant them exceptional or supernatural powers, abilities and/or resistances, sometimes even affecting the very structure of their body.
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The vestiges of his victims can restrict his own Quirk Factor; however, they are not multiple minds that exist alongside his own. They are merely subjugated fragments of an original personality attached to the Quirk Factor of his stolen abilities.

also they weren't trying to possess him
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The vestiges of his victims can restrict his own Quirk Factor; however, they are not multiple minds that exist alongside his own. They are merely subjugated fragments of an original personality attached to the Quirk Factor of his stolen abilities.

also they weren't trying to possess him
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Semantics on both counts.

Vestiges think for themselves, act by themselves, learn and react to events separate from their host body, can affect the mental realm of MHA through their willpower and exist independent of any ability, instead being a literal representation of the individuality of a person. They are their own minds, whether they’re shards from an original mind or not. Their origin is irrelevant compared to what they actually are and are capable of. That should more than fit for having multiple minds because it’s the exact same reason Deku has mind resistance: his mind and the vestiges are not the same, they are foreign entities that are unaffected by mental attacks target at the host, and can in fact protect the host mentally.

I would say that “physically restraining AFO from within his mental realm” is mental possession. They aren’t trying to take over his body completely but they are attempting to force him to do something he doesn’t want to do, and they succeeded. Because his Quirks didn’t listen to him, and instead rebelled to make him do what they want instead, his combat prowess dropped since they were literally holding him back until he forced them to get back in line. That falls in line with mental possession and a resistance to it.
 
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MHA: Howitzer Impact Cluster

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Instead of using 343 m/s for Shigaraki’s movement, we can use 1422 m/s for his movement since he’s massively above 45% Deku, who can move at speeds comparable to Nagant’s bullets, which are currently accepted by the wiki at 1422 m/s (speed of fastest real world sniper) and is used as a placeholder in multiple calcs

This would boost the attack speed to 0.03c (Sub-Relativistic)
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
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MHA: Howitzer Impact Cluster

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Instead of using 343 m/s for Shigaraki’s movement, we can use 1422 m/s for his movement since he’s massively above 45% Deku, who can move at speeds comparable to Nagant’s bullets, which are currently accepted by the wiki at 1422 m/s (speed of fastest real world sniper) and is used as a placeholder in multiple calcs

This would boost the attack speed to 0.03c (Sub-Relativistic)
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This would also boost the value of Bakugou’s Howitzer Cluster to 1.97 Teratons, or Low 6-B. So more support
 
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SuperStar said:
Still sounds like calc stacking but I’ll wait for other opinions
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It could be, but it was allowed for my Endeavor calc

The 1422 m/s doesn’t come from a calculation; it’s the accepted speed we use for Nagant’s bullets, as they’re massively superior to anything on the market. We already used it as a placeholder in a few calcs
 
SuperStar said:
Still sounds like calc stacking but I’ll wait for other opinions
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It's extremely sus either way. I don't like how it is being assumed that the explosion covered the full distance before Shigaraki managed to cover the distance between him and Bakugo.
 
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Plot twist instead of the snap, this was simply Tomura being amplified by trigger that was 1000 times stronger than the original
 
you know i remember how edgeshot used his powers on the nomu

but i'm curious why he doesn't use his powers to just puncture right through the brains of several nomu

I know heroes don't kill unless necessary but i think we can drop that rule with nomu. (just get edgeshot to fold himself then go right through several nomu brains) makes things easier.

am i wrong?
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
New High Hypersonic+ to Massively Hypersonic Hawks calc

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Hawks slams dozens of clones in an instant

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could you answer my question?

Pokemonfan807 said:
you know i remember how edgeshot used his powers on the nomu

but i'm curious why he doesn't use his powers to just puncture right through the brains of several nomu

I know heroes don't kill unless necessary but i think we can drop that rule with nomu. (just get edgeshot to fold himself then go right through several nomu brains) makes things easier.

am i wrong?
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Going thru Nomu’s brains wouldn’t really do much I think, they’re already fairly dumb as is and can only do things when programmed usually
 
Incorporeal (or Non-Corporeal) beings are those who have no true physical form. Though they may have physical avatars or bodies, but their true essence exists non-physically, whether as a soul, as energy, or as an abstract concept.

Kurogiri doesn't fit this, since he does have a true physical form. His true self is his neck region and would die if that was destroyed. And he chooses to turn most of his body into that warp gate stuff. The warp gate is always there, but we know he can be cut in the arm and can walk/sit just like a normal person. Can even be restrained.

This is just limited intangibility. Since he can turn most of his body into the warp gate.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Incorporeal (or Non-Corporeal) beings are those who have no true physical form. Though they may have physical avatars or bodies, but their true essence exists non-physically, whether as a soul, as energy, or as an abstract concept.

Kurogiri doesn't fit this, since he does have a true physical form. His true self is his neck region and would die if that was destroyed. And he chooses to turn most of his body into that warp gate stuff. The warp gate is always there, but we know he can be cut in the arm and can walk/sit just like a normal person. Can even be restrained.

This is just limited intangibility. Since he can turn most of his body into the warp gate.
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Exactly
 
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