My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[Mazdoesstuff]

We need feats that can scale to early 100% Deku and USJ All Might so all top tiers can scale via High-End Nomu scaling.

No one scales from this Deku, not even Prime All Might (it might change if Shiggy can keep up with 100% Deku, but it doesn't seem like Deku have reached that percentage yet).

Rusty mentioned a re-calc of something a while back in the Overhaul arc that got to like Mach 400, I have no clue if it’s accepted or not. I have two MHS calcs for Endeavor that are pending evaluations so there’s that as well

I also don't think characters like Best Jeanist or Mirko should be fully scaling from Completed Shiggy, only Bakugo after his Cluster evolution.

One day I’m gonna make a 34 page write-up on why I think Bakugou should scale to his Howitzer Cluster post-awakening

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Also I read on a real-life reference for MHA locations that Okuto Island is based off of the Hachijo-jima island, which has a peak of 854.3 meters. I think you could apply that to your flying Deku calc

 

[Kingur_RG3]

Alright we lost Bakugou and 2of those dudes from Endeavor’s team, who y’all think we losing next?

I doubt that burnin will leave us but we have to say goodbye to rumi,
-hori the author who killed his waifu,-
For the rest I would not know there are many with death flags

 

[Therefir]

Rusty mentioned a re-calc of something a while back in the Overhaul arc that got to like Mach 400.

Overhaul arc? You mean this one? I just re-calculated it at Mach 5.

I have two MHS calcs for Endeavor that are pending evaluations so there’s that as well.

This one uses perception speed, we can't use that anymore for blitzing feats, only reaction speed.

As for the other one, you seem to have used the old angsizing formula, since you are converting radians to degrees when you can't no longer do that.

Endeavor's Height = 195 cm or 1.95 m

Panel Height = 25.6 m

Distance = 1.95*25.6/[1.95*2tan(70/2)] = 18.28 m

Endeavor + Hawks Feathers Feat = 18.28/0.0007 = 26114.28 m/s, Mach 76.13

RIP, that's too slow to be blitzing AFO and we haven't even subtracted whatever boost the feathers are giving.

 

[Therefir]

Also I read on a real-life reference for MHA locations that Okuto Island is based off of the Hachijo-jima island, which has a peak of 854.3 meters. I think you could apply that to your flying Deku calc

Let me check.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Overhaul arc? You mean this one? I just re-calculated it at Mach 5.

This one uses perception speed, we can't use that anymore for blitzing feats, only reaction speed.

As for the other one, you seem to have used the old angsizing formula, since you are converting radians to degrees when you can't no longer do that.

Endeavor's Height = 195 cm or 1.95 m

Panel Height = 25.6 m

Distance = 1.95*25.6/[1.95*2tan(70/2)] = 18.28 m

Endeavor + Hawks Feathers Feat = 18.28/0.0007 = 26114.28 m/s, Mach 76.13

RIP, that's too slow to be blitzing AFO and we haven't even subtracted whatever boost the feathers are giving.

Damn

I mean if all goes wrong at least we have the accepted frozen time Number 6 calc, which would put mid tiers at High Hypersonic+ so

I’m gonna try to look for more MHS feats

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Hopefully we can scale Deku's previous 100% keys from this feat, since he isn't using 100% there.

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Assuming this feat gets accepted for the high end would all the top tiers downscale? We know that 45% Deku is the fastest hero in sheer speed, but we don’t know what percentage he’s using here, just that it’s noticeably under 100%

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Overhaul arc? You mean this one? I just re-calculated it at Mach 5.

I thought I did something.
Is the first part still good? Even if it isn't used I'd still like to know if I did the math right

This one uses perception speed, we can't use that anymore for blitzing feats, only reaction speed.

As for the other one, you seem to have used the old angsizing formula, since you are converting radians to degrees when you can't no longer do that.

Endeavor's Height = 195 cm or 1.95 m

Panel Height = 25.6 m

Distance = 1.95*25.6/[1.95*2tan(70/2)] = 18.28 m

Endeavor + Hawks Feathers Feat = 18.28/0.0007 = 26114.28 m/s, Mach 76.13

RIP, that's too slow to be blitzing AFO and we haven't even subtracted whatever boost the feathers are giving.

Again, F moment

I do have to ask isn't there some calc that puts number 6's perception speed in HS?
Also is there a way to calc the speed at which the sky egg would be falling over? and use that for the all might tpkyo sky egg

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Colossal RIP to this feat.

Hopefully we can scale Deku's previous 100% keys from this feat, since he isn't using 100% there.

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oh yeah we also have the divebomb from AM I did, you accepted (Mach 163.99) his speed didnt go down so much that everyone noticed right? Should still be in the same ball park.
you want me to high ball the shit outta that and try and ang scale the distance from the clouds he bursts through to endeavors eye, and use transonic reaction?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

when i left the wiki we had tier 6 godtiers and now we back to 7-A, lol i missed a ton.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Colossal RIP to this feat.

Hopefully we can scale Deku's previous 100% keys from this feat, since he isn't using 100% there.

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Can't we use the speed of the shockwave/explosion they did against Nine? Dividing that in half would give us Mach 60 results.

Or what about using the speed of the storm spinning? This is giving me Mach 70 results for 100% Izuku and Bakugo.

@Shadowbokunohero And we're going to go back to Tier 6 again one day. We're just going in circles, everything comes back around.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

when i left the wiki we had tier 6 godtiers and now we back to 7-A, lol i missed a ton.

Heading right back and even higher than before now.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

. We're just going in circles, everything comes back around.

the trick is to have Hirokoshi give us a feat thats above tier 7 and 6/s

 

[SuperStar]

big oof

 

[Gitagon]

Hope we get one final fight between Deku and other characters before he faces AFO and Shigaraki.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Found a scene where I can measure the air pressure speed in heroes rising.

Massively Hypersonic if accepted.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Found a scene where I can measure the air pressure speed in heroes rising.

Massively Hypersonic if accepted.

RUSTY YOU ****** DID IT

 

[SuperStar]

Common W

 

[Kingofwolves999]

The heroes rising calc will never die.

Whether AP or Speed, it will never release us from its hold

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

The heroes rising calc will never die.

Whether AP or Speed, it will never release us from its hold

It’s like a lich, except we require it so we can’t fully kill it

 

[Gitagon]

At the end of the day, Nine is still one of the most powerful villains in the series and it hard for anything else in the series to directly compete with him.

Even WHM didn't have feats at that level.

 

[TheRustyOne]

What do you all think a fight with Nine (Cell Activation Type B) vs Weakened AFO would go?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

What do you all think a fight with Nine (Cell Activation Type B) vs Weakened AFO would go?

Assuming we’re talking about nine being in his second key, Nine has to end the fight before his timer runs out, but it took two OFA users, both stronger than Kamino AM (Right cause at that point it’s more USJ?).
So I’d give it to Nine if the distance is close enough to where he can just NOVA AFO, but if the distance is far enough (or we give AFO the quirks from final act) AFO has his own options to keep Nine running until his timer goes splat.

 

[TheRustyOne]

When I say Nine with Cell Activation Type B, that means Nine with no sickness. This is a theoretical Nine who did get Cell Activation from Katsuma.

How strong would this Nine be? Would he beat Weakened AFO?

Note: Nine only needed two OFA users because of his storm. Without that storm he was getting destroyed by them, and their single attacks were overwhelming him.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

When I say Nine with Cell Activation Type B, that means Nine with no sickness. This is a theoretical Nine who did get Cell Activation from Katsuma.

How strong would this Nine be? Would he beat Weakened AFO?

Note: Nine only needed two OFA users because of his storm. Without that storm he was getting destroyed by them, and their single attacks were overwhelming him.

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Ok thx
Yeah he'd def beat AFO, as in like he'd bully him, the two both dont fight with overwhelming strength like the OFA users and instead with their arsenals, the one Nine Showed being much more impressive (Hydra, Bullet Laser, and Air Wall being notable)
Also you ever remember sometimes that theirs a kid from the masegaki primary school who has a quirk called electro magnetic bullets. I don't know why but a child essentially becoming human cannon and generating magnetic field to YEET things is funny to me

 

[TheRustyOne]

In terms of power Nine's Quirks don't really show anything superior to AFO's Air Cannon Combination.

Only his weather Quirk is scaling above 100% of OFA, as Izuku couldn't take it out himself. However his other Quirks lack any reason to scale to that.

Though I personally imagine Nine would have a very slight power advantage with his standard Quirks.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

I really wish we scaled All Might to Number 6’s emergency mode. It wouldn’t make sense for a Mach 80 character to pose such a massive threat to a Mach 432 character, especially when Number 6 consistently reiterated that All Might is the only thing in his path

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Is this feat calcable? I’m trying to find the distance Bakugou travelled when he disappeared from Shigaraki’s reactions

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I really wish we scaled All Might to Number 6’s emergency mode. It wouldn’t make sense for a Mach 80 character to pose such a massive threat to a Mach 432 character, especially when Number 6 consistently reiterated that All Might is the only thing in his path

Personally I don’t really care. I mean yeah, I agree with you that he should scale, even if not fully, All Might is referred to as a Deus ex machina by all for one, like he’ll somehow always win if someone is relying on him to do so.
However number 6 doesn’t know these facts like we do, so All Might scaling to his emergency speed would make sense, as that’s what he’d be going off of.
Either way though It doesn’t bug me.
Though remember, Current 6 is scaling to 140ish I believe my calc is the one you’re referencing for number 6 being Mach 432 (numbers actually 438) but it’s not being put in place until we also revise scaling to put 100% as far faster than 54 (the actual number the calc gives).

@Therefir in those panels and stuff didn’t he fire bullets, they just seemed like they only moved after he exited his emergency speed?

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Also is there literally any actual statements or concrete projectiles that MHA characters dodge that go above Supersonic+? I’m tired of using Supersonic+ reactions as a placeholder when we calced them to be so far above such

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Also is there literally any actual statements or concrete projectiles that MHA characters dodge that go above Supersonic+? I’m tired of using Supersonic+ reactions as a placeholder when we calced them to be so far above such

No.
again this Is something I don’t really care about.
Like, that time when Nagant’s bullets were calc’d at Mach 100 by Earthy and because their static we may be able to use in the Bullet Calc? Yeah I’m willing to debate that.
But something like this, Idc that much

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Like, that time when Nagant’s bullets were calc’d at Mach 100 by Earthy and because their static we may be able to use in the Bullet Calc? Yeah I’m willing to debate that.
But something like this, Idc that much

Earthy hasn’t been on this forum in forever I’m waiting for the CRT when we actually introduce the bullet calc

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Earthy hasn’t been on this forum in forever I’m waiting for the CRT when we actually introduce the bullet calc

I Mean if somebody gets onto that and we don’t shut it down again I’m fairly certain it’ll pass, but I don’t recommend trying to again, given how fast it got executed last time

 

[Gitagon]

In terms of power Nine's Quirks don't really show anything superior to AFO's Air Cannon Combination.

Only his weather Quirk is scaling above 100% of OFA, as Izuku couldn't take it out himself. However his other Quirks lack any reason to scale to that.

Though I personally imagine Nine would have a very slight power advantage with his standard Quirks.

Unlimited weather manipulation would destroy most characters in the verse. Not only does he have the megastorm, he can summon a tornado strong enough to repel a 100% punch plus can summon natural lightning. Multiple bolts of lightning at that like at the beginning of the movie. Plus his air shield?barrier is one of the strongest we have seen especially the 7 layered one and if underwent the Shigaaki operation in orde to handle multiple stats, he should at least have base stats comparable to a Black Nomu at the least. And the only times he shows issues with reacting is when his illness is acting up.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

I Mean if somebody gets onto that and we don’t shut it down again I’m fairly certain it’ll pass, but I don’t recommend trying to again, given how fast it got executed last time

I mean Therefir already accepted the Mach 100 end (which would also upgrade Deku’s bullet dodge to MHS), we just need a CRT

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I mean Therefir already accepted the Mach 100 end (which would also upgrade Deku’s bullet dodge to MHS), we just need a CRT

I guess we’d also put in Rusty’s (if it gets accepted) and My casual All Might calc (His speed shouldn’t have slowed so much that USJ wasn’t atleast Baseline, especially cause Nabu Deku is slower than him).

But yeah we’d just need a CRT @Therefir there a reason we haven’t done that yet?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Or what about using the speed of the storm spinning?

if you don’t mind me asking why’d you cut the speed in half?
I thought it was only really like that for power, given that they weren’t boosting each other in speed, just yeeting their air blasts alongside the other

 

[TheRustyOne]

Unlimited weather manipulation would destroy most characters in the verse.

Oh yeah, his storm Quirk alone is stupidly busted.

 

[TheRustyOne]

if you don’t mind me asking why’d you cut the speed in half?
I thought it was only really like that for power, given that they weren’t boosting each other in speed, just yeeting their air blasts alongside the other

Honestly not 100% sure if that is even usable at all. Since their blast combined when it reaches the storm, so maybe that is doing something.

I don't really know the science behind it.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Honestly not 100% sure if that is even usable at all. Since their blast combined when it reaches the storm, so maybe that is doing something.

I don't really know the science behind it.

Fair enough
i have made a complete joke calc that measures the distance the lightning moves and the distance that you calculated the storm moved, you think I should try and get it checked?