My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[TheRustyOne]

We have no idea if Bakugo is different. He has no feats during the war arc, completely zero. Unless you count getting impaled.

Where in MHA is someone's durability scaling to a temperature feat or vice versa? Other verses are just slow to catch up, because no one really cares enough to bother. Especially since for the longest time temperature feats were just regarded as plain durability and all that.

Or maybe there is a reason we don't know. Just isn't made clear on the profiles.

 

[Metalballrun]

Where in MHA is someone's durability scaling to a temperature feat or vice versa?

The entire "X level against temperature attacks", it's more like resistance to temperature attacks more than specific AP attacks. Though I understand that this could also mean "Fire attack that has X tons of force won't damage them much" though that can be complicated as well.

There are some things on the top of my head right now that are a bit iffy. You can decide if they are on the clear or not.

In Shoto's JT Arc AP:

Clashed with Chimera's fire breath, which was strong enough to melt Shoto's ice

The underlined part is a temperature feat rather than an AP feat.
Shoto "defeating" Weakened Shiggy with Jet Kindling is also a bit questionable, but since Jet attacks do output force to some extent I guess this counts?

A little tangent, but Kaminari's entire profile with his Electrification. Electricity electrocutes, it doesn't really function the same as punchy-punch-punch durability yet his Electrification is treated that way. It's not like he's using it like Sinbad from Magi either. I dunno about him exploding Makihara's bandage puppets though since there is no scan of it.

That's about it for now.

 

[Gitagon]

I don't know about Bakugo, clearly his durability did not increase one bit. It might be possible for him to get a dirability upgrade if he lives like the explosions across his body increasing his sturdiness or something but nothing for now.

The move he hurt Shigaraki with was basically Howitzer performed with Cluster so while he didn't do it in war arc, he should have been capable of it back then. The only additional factor is the Mobile Suit Panzer which clearly added some propelling and rotational force. Also despite the size of the attack, Shigaraki was not pushed back and only took burn damage so clearly the physical force is not at Shigaraki level. We do know that Shiggy can tank physical attacks far better than heat damage considering even Hell Curtain + Prominenece Burn and Keraunos all did major damage to his skin via burns while he tanked Vanishing Fist and Deku's 100% barrage (even if with regen) without serious injury.

However, with the new full body explosions, his speed obviously got the biggest upgrade. We did not see anything special with AP or durability though.

 

[TheRustyOne]

The entire "X level against temperature attacks", it's more like resistance to temperature attacks more than specific AP attacks. Though I understand that this could also mean "Fire attack that has X tons of force won't damage them much" though that can be complicated as well.

Level against temperature attacks is really stupid and I've repeated this many times. That has nothing to do with force, it actually makes zero sense and has no reason to exist. Yet no one cares to actually do anything about it and just ignore people if they try to bring it up.

It is meant to be resistance to temperature, but that logic fails horribly. Since temperature resistance is about... well temperature. Saying someone has 7-C resistance to heat/cold makes no damn sense. Since a 500 degree fire that covers a large area can be 7-C, but a 2000 degree fire that covers a smaller area is only 9-A.

The "AP value" we have is nothing more than the energy it would take for an area/object of whatever size to reach that temperature. So just because you resist a fire that is 7-C, doesn't mean you can resist a fire that is 9-A. Due to the fact that flame is many times hotter than what he can resist.

Basically saying X value against fire/ice attacks is worthless as it doesn't meaning anything. In order to have worth you need a universal/shared energy system. Where you can use that same energy for something other than temperature feats, like enhancing your physical strikes or a big explosion.

Sorry, that's just a personal rant I've had for awhile. I really dislike these kind of "ratings".

Shoto defeating a weakened Shiggy is pointless. Jet Kindling is the same as Jet Burn, so no duh they both carry force. Instead that is a feat for the weakened Shigaraki, not the other way around. His Flashfire Fist is already on par with Endeavor, there is really no reason to mention it other than the fact it sounds cool to have.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

This "blitz" was the result of Hawks and Endeavor together.

Late response but rereading the chapter, I don’t think that dividing the result by 2 makes sense, considering Hawks only used a small portion of his feathers to boost Endeavor

We can’t really quantify how much Hawks boosted Endeavor since he only added a few feathers to his fire

 

[SuperStar]

Is it safe to say that Deku can shoot black whip out of any part of his body? Or would that be NLF?

 

[sanicspood]

I mean if he can shoot it out of his tongue why is it such a bad thing to say he can shoot it out of his head or something

 

[SuperStar]

Same thing I was thinking

 

[Kingur_RG3]

when deku went into a rage didn't whips come out of everywhere?
I use a tongue and they also come out of his back, Daigoro took one out of his waist so from there too.

 

[SuperStar]

Yea, I think it came out of his back when going rage mode against Shigiraki

 

[Gitagon]

Full body Black Whip like Venom is just a matter of time.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

New chapter coming tmrw, any predictions?

 

[SuperStar]

New chapter coming tmrw, any predictions?

Bakugo joins the vestige world and uses it to tell Deku why he got packed up with no diff

 

[sanicspood]

New chapter coming tmrw, any predictions?

Deku goes 200%

 

[Therefir]

New chapter coming tmrw, any predictions?

We go back to Toga vs Ochako.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

We go back to Toga vs Ochako.

Unfortunate

 

[Nullflowerblush]

New chapter coming tmrw, any predictions?

I know for a fact that All For One isn't appearing any time soon, cuz Horikoshi is a jobber.

 

[Gitagon]

POV shift.

I don't think the Bakugo situation will be solved immediately. It will probably be another cliffhanger like Dabi's chest glowing and AFO recovering.

 

[Gitagon]

Shoto vs Dabi: cliffhanger ending
Endeavor vs AFO: cliffhanger
Bakugo vs Shigaraki?: Probably another cliffhanger
Ochako vs Toga: probably next.

 

[Therefir]

Unfortunate

Yeah, we'll probably get whiplash from the sudden change of scenery, but this is what makes the most sense here.

 

[Therefir]

Should Deku gain Resistance to Cold for being encased in ice and showing no signs of being affected by it?

If a human were subjected to something similar, they would be shivering with cold.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Should Deku gain Resistance to Cold for being encased in ice and showing no signs of being affected by it?

Probably yeah

 

[SuperStar]

Should Deku gain Resistance to Cold for being encased in ice and showing no signs of being affected by it?

If a human were subjected to something similar, they would be shivering with cold.

yea

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Question is the hero society disbanded now?

if so can they make a new version where it didn’t have those flaws regarding popularity and money? Cause some heroes are just like what stain said

 

[SuperStar]

Alright here me out

Should Deku has Time Manipulation resistance based on resisting Eri's rewind to a certain extent? The first time he was rewound, it only made his body ache in pain.

Then during the fight with overhaul, Eri's power was getting stronger and Deku was still resisting from being erased from existence

That looks like a resistance to me continuously withstanding an effect up to a certain limit should be a resistance

 

[Therefir]

He only "resisted" because his body was constantly destroying itself by using Full Cowl 100%.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Alright here me out

Should Deku has Time Manipulation resistance based on resisting Eri's rewind to a certain extent? The first time he was rewound, it only made his body ache in pain.

Then during the fight with overhaul, Eri's power was getting stronger and Deku was still resisting from being erased from existence

That looks like a resistance to me continuously withstanding an effect up to a certain limit should be a resistance

He didn’t really resist it he just outpaced its rewind speed by breaking his bones over an over

If anything it’d be EE resistance, since Deku managed to take Eri’s power head on and survive, unlike her father who was erased

 

[Kingur_RG3]

Question is the hero society disbanded now?

if so can they make a new version where it didn’t have those flaws regarding popularity and money? Cause some heroes are just like what stain said

if it returns to a normality of that type
I think that although they will still be paid and there will be popularity (this is something that civilians define and not the heroes themselves) although they seek it
I think the requirements to be a professional hero will become more strict and conscientious

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Alright here me out

Should Deku has Time Manipulation resistance based on resisting Eri's rewind to a certain extent? The first time he was rewound, it only made his body ache in pain.

Then during the fight with overhaul, Eri's power was getting stronger and Deku was still resisting from being erased from existence

That looks like a resistance to me continuously withstanding an effect up to a certain limit should be a resistance

Putting "Remove Eri's Time Manipulation" on the to-do list.

 

[Kingur_RG3]

Shoto vs Dabi: final de suspenso
Endeavour vs AFO: suspenso
¿Bakugo vs Shigaraki?: Probablemente otro suspenso
Ochako vs Toga: probablemente el próximo.

I think the battles that will be resolved without suspense will be

mina kirishima and maybe mineta vs the midnight killer

aoyama and fat maybe hayakure vs kunieda

shoji and sero vs spinner and we still have to see the guy with dreadlocks and that gastly

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

if it returns to a normality of that type
I think that although they will still be paid and there will be popularity (this is something that civilians define and not the heroes themselves) although they seek it
I think the requirements to be a professional hero will become more strict and conscientious

stain was right it was just his methods were wrong

 

[SuperStar]

Eri's father got erased with one touch, Deku was getting the full output and still didn't get erased

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

does anyone agree that stain's ideas were right but his methods were wrong

 

[Kingur_RG3]

Eri's father got erased with one touch, Deku was getting the full output and still didn't get erased

I think it can't be many things
1- deku resist time as they say
2-the greater the amount of things to rewind, the less effect
3- that eri's awakening was explosive and then became more stable similar to tomura's case
-4- deku with an anti-fate quirk that will test him in a couple of years ending the series-

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

New chapter coming tmrw, any predictions?

Depends on what Horikoshi has planned for the "Katsuki getting stabbed" thing. Though FWIW, somebody pointed out that Edgeshot knows a thing or two about organs. Not sure if it could save him, but...

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Eri's father got erased with one touch, Deku was getting the full output and still didn't get erased

I could see a limited resistance since we don’t know if Eri’s erasure was as strong in the Deku instance compared to against her father, since quirk awakenings are usually very explosive

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I think it can't be many things
1- deku resist time as they say
2-the greater the amount of things to rewind, the less effect
3- that eri's awakening was explosive and then became more stable similar to tomura's case
-4- deku with an anti-fate quirk that will test him in a couple of years ending the series-

it’s number 3 with what we know right now.
Midoryia directly stated it was becoming faster in the fight, so no bueno there, his EE res and Time res weren’t in effect he was just out pacing it, it even ended up indirectly healing him somewhat because it got so fast.
And unless the 2nd’s quirk is ZA WARUDO or something, Deku’s medically and biologically quirkless, so unless Hori really wants to pull some Jesus shit, it’s not that either.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Putting "Remove Eri's Time Manipulation" on the to-do list.

It is time manipulation, just unorthodox. It directly causes them to reverse back in time, it couldn’t do something like completely vanish her dad without it, because he got directly reversed back and rewound. It’s a time manipulation which only works on organisms.

does anyone agree that stain's ideas were right but his methods were wrong

they were, absolutely for both.
The hero society was corrupt and down right awful, endeavor is would have been our perfect example, a cruel man with no desire to save, only to be the best (from what we knew in canon at that moment, haven’t seen endeavor backstory because me iPad sucked for that time period, so it may have changed).
However killing them only makes him seem bloodthirsty and diminished his goal, while also making the heroes he killed martyrs. Had he wanted to bring them down with no bloodshed, he could have done more hacking and stealth work, gathering information and bringing them to justice in the court of public law. Hero Society would be damned if many heroes were unveiled by him especially someone in the top, maybe expose Yoroi (#9) for being a coward who gave up the moment the going got tough? It’s untrue from what we know, but the media can do the spinning for us.

 

[Kingur_RG3]

does anyone agree that stain's ideas were right but his methods were wrong

it’s number 3 with what we know right now.
Midoryia directly stated it was becoming faster in the fight, so no bueno there, his EE res and Time res weren’t in effect he was just out pacing it, it even ended up indirectly healing him somewhat because it got so fast.
And unless the 2nd’s quirk is ZA WARUDO or something, Deku’s medically and biologically quirkless, so unless Hori really wants to pull some Jesus shit, it’s not that either.

the room was a joke but it didn't fit well

 

[SuperStar]

I could see a limited resistance since we don’t know if Eri’s erasure was as strong in the Deku instance compared to against her father, since quirk awakenings are usually very explosive

I could settle for limited resistance, but I think he should fully get the resistance