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Pretty sure the super breath is just him using OFA’s air pressure through his mouth to blow heavy air, it’s not really a new power just a diff application
That’s my guess
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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That’s my guess
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Question?
Does all of the new Quirks All For One showed during his initial fight with Endeavor and Hawks also get added to Shigaraki as well?
Does all of the new Quirks All For One showed during his initial fight with Endeavor and Hawks also get added to Shigaraki as well?
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I personally think it’s safe to say he has every Quirk that Wounded AFO has ever shown since we know all the copied quirks and everything were solely for his new body.
Some people might want to wait until he actually uses one of those quirks but I think he has em.
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Yes I would assume that to be the case
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I assume he does has them as well, just that some may not be as useful to him right now.
For example, Shigaraki doesn't need to use that Quirk AFO used to turn his arms into those horrible monstrosities. Since his body is "naturally" doing that itself. Like maybe it'll increase the rate of growth, but I don't think we'd be able to tell when he's using it vs his own growth.
For example, Shigaraki doesn't need to use that Quirk AFO used to turn his arms into those horrible monstrosities. Since his body is "naturally" doing that itself. Like maybe it'll increase the rate of growth, but I don't think we'd be able to tell when he's using it vs his own growth.
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Is it safe to say Shigaraki > Prime All Might?
Shigaraki in base stats is on par with All Might, except you have the fact that he has Reactive Evolution, he can generate hundreds of hands to barrage opponents, and he has dozens of powerful quirks
Shigaraki in base stats is on par with All Might, except you have the fact that he has Reactive Evolution, he can generate hundreds of hands to barrage opponents, and he has dozens of powerful quirks
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I didn't do anything to youGo away bro
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I don't think anyone can defeat Current Shigaraki one on one.
The character with the highest chance of beating him one on one is Full Cowl 100% Deku, who can use 100% freely. For obvious reasons.
But Prime All Might can't beat current Shigaraki, who can do everything he can and far more.
The character with the highest chance of beating him one on one is Full Cowl 100% Deku, who can use 100% freely. For obvious reasons.
But Prime All Might can't beat current Shigaraki, who can do everything he can and far more.
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ask, bakugo is a good character
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why?
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Good character journey, development, dynamics/parallels the list goes on
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literally, bakugo has none of that,eri has better development than bakugo, endeavor has infinitely more development than bakugo
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Bakugo’s a good character to me because he begins as a standard bully with gifted powers but quickly winds up becoming a large piece of Deku’s development while going through large amount a of change himself.
His realization, rejection and eventual acceptance of Deku getting a quirk, as well as his mirrored admiration of All Might, make the beginning of his character pretty engaging, and his warrior mentality can be very entertaining since in a world of heroes, he’s someone that always seeks to win rather than save at first.
His hatred of Deku boiling up to their second fight also makes him interesting since he’s been actually taking nothing but L’s personally the whole time. He has had no wins until he fights Deku that he mentally regarded as “wins.” So to see him crumbling under that pressure was good growth and him getting in on the secret of OFA let him become more of a confidant to Deku than the static rival he was, seeking to surpass him on his own strength even when realizing the gap he needs to get across, a nice contrast to Endeavor who saw that gap and did the same, but without becoming AM’s friend.
During the Final Act we see all of this come to a head with him taking a hit for Deku and showing constant worry for him. He has understood, especially after seeing Blackwhip emerge, that the gap isn’t what bothers him anymore, but the responsibility on Deku’s head. He cares for him, while also acknowledging that he is the reason Deku is so ****** up in the head and started at such a low point. He has reflected and found turmoil within himself over his past and rather than face it, he runs from it until Deku is about to get skewered, at which point he sacrifices himself to deliver the message that Deku doesn’t have to do everything alone. That he wants to help Deku, not compete with him.
Then his apology continues this as he stops hiding from his past actions and instead confronts them. He accepts his past sins, the damage he did to Deku, and that their rivalry shouldn’t be the driving force. The state of society, the downfall of heroes, has forced Bakugo to see that it will take everyone working together to fix things, and that Deku is the pieces that ties it all together. He respects Deku more than anyone, and even tries calling him Izuku now, showing that he has removed past everything in his past to focus solely on the future.
But now, at the end of it all, he fights someone Deku is meant to fight, and is gapped outlandishly. He is humiliated, stomped in and beaten like he’s nothing. He is told he’s nothing to Deku, that he can’t measure up, and that his death is the only thing that will matter in the end. Yet he takes this in stride, and rather than break, he simply analyzes his situation to get back in there. He never leaves the fight, even when the enemy tries to break him, because he believes that heroes need to win before anything else, and it is through winning that he will save people. A large departure from his initial character by an intense margin.
His fighting style is also interesting, with his Quirk explosion being used in increasingly more impressive and imaginative ways. Even just his flight is entertaining to observe, and the way he constantly pushes the boundaries of his attacks, uses his equipment more than any other character, and never backs down just like Deku, makes him always a great character to watch fight due tot he sheer versatility he can do with his seemingly simple but strong quirk.
After everything, his relationship with other characters like Shoto, Endeavor, Kirishima and Aizawa also add much to his character beyond just Deku, and he shares many parallels that Horikoshi loves to do. Parallels with Endeavor through their need to surpass OFA despite hitting above their weight class are the most prominent, and obviously amplified by how good of a character Endeavor is.
Overall, yeah, very good character. Grows a lot, interacts a lot, fights interestingly and is always improving. Only downside I’d say is that he’s more attached to Deku than anyone else, to the point we get his perspective more than Deku’s on their relationship. I feel there’s not enough “Deku” in their rivalry, and most of it is one sidedly coming from Bakugo while Deku just has high admiration and emulates him constantly as the Symbol of Victory. But other than that, can’t see much of a reason to dislike the character, executed very well and still growing as we speak.
That’s what I’d say is a good character.
His realization, rejection and eventual acceptance of Deku getting a quirk, as well as his mirrored admiration of All Might, make the beginning of his character pretty engaging, and his warrior mentality can be very entertaining since in a world of heroes, he’s someone that always seeks to win rather than save at first.
His hatred of Deku boiling up to their second fight also makes him interesting since he’s been actually taking nothing but L’s personally the whole time. He has had no wins until he fights Deku that he mentally regarded as “wins.” So to see him crumbling under that pressure was good growth and him getting in on the secret of OFA let him become more of a confidant to Deku than the static rival he was, seeking to surpass him on his own strength even when realizing the gap he needs to get across, a nice contrast to Endeavor who saw that gap and did the same, but without becoming AM’s friend.
During the Final Act we see all of this come to a head with him taking a hit for Deku and showing constant worry for him. He has understood, especially after seeing Blackwhip emerge, that the gap isn’t what bothers him anymore, but the responsibility on Deku’s head. He cares for him, while also acknowledging that he is the reason Deku is so ****** up in the head and started at such a low point. He has reflected and found turmoil within himself over his past and rather than face it, he runs from it until Deku is about to get skewered, at which point he sacrifices himself to deliver the message that Deku doesn’t have to do everything alone. That he wants to help Deku, not compete with him.
Then his apology continues this as he stops hiding from his past actions and instead confronts them. He accepts his past sins, the damage he did to Deku, and that their rivalry shouldn’t be the driving force. The state of society, the downfall of heroes, has forced Bakugo to see that it will take everyone working together to fix things, and that Deku is the pieces that ties it all together. He respects Deku more than anyone, and even tries calling him Izuku now, showing that he has removed past everything in his past to focus solely on the future.
But now, at the end of it all, he fights someone Deku is meant to fight, and is gapped outlandishly. He is humiliated, stomped in and beaten like he’s nothing. He is told he’s nothing to Deku, that he can’t measure up, and that his death is the only thing that will matter in the end. Yet he takes this in stride, and rather than break, he simply analyzes his situation to get back in there. He never leaves the fight, even when the enemy tries to break him, because he believes that heroes need to win before anything else, and it is through winning that he will save people. A large departure from his initial character by an intense margin.
His fighting style is also interesting, with his Quirk explosion being used in increasingly more impressive and imaginative ways. Even just his flight is entertaining to observe, and the way he constantly pushes the boundaries of his attacks, uses his equipment more than any other character, and never backs down just like Deku, makes him always a great character to watch fight due tot he sheer versatility he can do with his seemingly simple but strong quirk.
After everything, his relationship with other characters like Shoto, Endeavor, Kirishima and Aizawa also add much to his character beyond just Deku, and he shares many parallels that Horikoshi loves to do. Parallels with Endeavor through their need to surpass OFA despite hitting above their weight class are the most prominent, and obviously amplified by how good of a character Endeavor is.
Overall, yeah, very good character. Grows a lot, interacts a lot, fights interestingly and is always improving. Only downside I’d say is that he’s more attached to Deku than anyone else, to the point we get his perspective more than Deku’s on their relationship. I feel there’s not enough “Deku” in their rivalry, and most of it is one sidedly coming from Bakugo while Deku just has high admiration and emulates him constantly as the Symbol of Victory. But other than that, can’t see much of a reason to dislike the character, executed very well and still growing as we speak.
That’s what I’d say is a good character.
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Eri does not have better development than Bakugo, and Endeavor has better development than most other characters in any Shonen I can think of.
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seriously, the only existing development of bakugo, is to be more powerful,of the rest he is just, scream like a maniac and treating others like trash or in a bad way, he does not develop, having more friends is not a development, deku has more development, mirio has more development, even uraraka has more development
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I'm like 90% certain Alexander is just saying stuff like this to get people riled up.
Just ignore him.
Just ignore him.
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Ah, you’re trolling, cool.
Cease this train of thought or I will report, we don’t have time for intentionally inflammatory statements trying to make people engage with you.
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I'm serious
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ok,but remember,i am not trolling,i am talking serious and also,this thread are not only to do thing like upgrades,you can also give your opinions,because there is no rule that say that in a general thread can't talk about other things
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Which is why I told him to "go away"
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Shota's Erasure only temporarily nullifies one's Quirk Factor, the expression of their physical mutations, which does not directly affect their Quirks but still prevents a target from using said ability; the example used when Shota was describing Erasure was a tail Quirk. On the other hand, All For One steals everything — the Quirk and the Quirk Factor. If he were to steal a tail Quirk, the user would no longer have a tail. What if he were to steal a Mutant Quirk that changed the entire body of the user, like Orcinus? Would Gang Orca become an average Joe?
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I'd assume that is how that works.
We've seen him steal Quirks that alter the body in that OFA Flashback thing, though none of them had Quirks that alter the body as heavily as Gang Orca.
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All Might does have better combat skill I’d say, and he’s also smarter than Shigaraki
But all in all there’s no hax he has, NPI is useless against Shiggy and that’s all
But all in all there’s no hax he has, NPI is useless against Shiggy and that’s all
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"Better combat skill"? He is no pushover, but his entire arsenal of attacks revolve around single, decisive blows. Not exactly the most nuanced combatant.
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Current Shiggy isn't just Shiggy.
Shiggy has all the intelligence of All For One as well. Who's lived for over 100 years and has experience fighting Prime All Might. Fusing them together into someone who isn't Tomura or All For One, yet has all of their memories, experience, and intelligence. So All Might being a better fighter isn't really a done deal.
Quirkless Complete Shigaraki beating Prime All Might is honestly something I can see. Yeah his growth wouldn't be dangerous to All Might, since he can blow them away. But Shigaraki has absurd stamina, AFO's experience with All Might, and pain tolerance even higher than Izuku.
And the growth would still be annoying to deal with, even if it can't do anything more than be annoying.
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All Might typically doesn’t need to utilize combat skill since he was immensely stronger than any other villains when he was in his prime besides AFO. I assume he’s as skilled as Deku though, considering the trainings with Nana and Gran Torino
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Current 45% Deku attempts to fight the entire LOV and Shie Hassakai (besides Dabi and Shigaraki), can he win?
This includes:
Rappa
Katsukame
Nemoto
Spinner
Muscular
Moonfish
Overhaul
Tengai
The dudes Tamaki fought
Kurono
This includes:
Rappa
Katsukame
Nemoto
Spinner
Muscular
Moonfish
Overhaul
Tengai
The dudes Tamaki fought
Kurono
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He bodies all of them in one Air Force kick except Muscular who he takes down after a few minutes of wearing out his muscles. <- Boring answer
Fun Answer:
Deku immediately uses smokescreen since no one here can see through it. He then runs up and one shots Overhaul, Compress, Kurono, Magne and Nemoto.
After the initial confusion goes away, he takes out Moonfish, Rappa, Tengai, etc. all while still under smoke.
Last one he goes for is Muscular who finally gets more time to fight since his muscle fibers aren’t weakened this time. Unfortunately, Deku still memes on him with Danger Sense and Float, so he gets kited around like an idiot while Deku takes pot shots at him before taking him out with Fa Jin.
Very easy clean up I’d say.
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Alright, what if I add in THE ENTIRE LIBERATION FRONT including all of the civilians, Kizuki, Re-Destro, and Geten
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Correct me if I'm wrong but can't Deku sometimes become mentally overwhelmed when there's a high amount of people triggering off his danger sense? Or was that just because they were all innocent civilians that were triggering it?
I'm referring to the chapter where he returns to UA btw. Not sure what chapter # that is.
I'm referring to the chapter where he returns to UA btw. Not sure what chapter # that is.
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Hit and run tactics that involve a lot of Air Force spam and trying not to kill people.
Literally no one is fast enough to actually do anything to him so it’s just a matter of taking out the heads and thinning out the civilians. Geten can’t stop him and stands out so he’s get smacked, so would Trumpet, Curious would get one shot by a stray Air Force kick, etc.
It would be like All Might stopping all those crimes in Vigilantes, the only stop gap is Muscular and Overhaul if he doesn’t get to Overhaul fast enough. Everyone else falls like dominoes.
He could also just sneak in and out with Smokescreen while keeping watch with Danger Sense, staking out and hiding, only coming out to take out swathes of enemies at a time before dipping back out.
He could literally go full Insomniac Batman/Spider-Man on the entire army.
In fact? That’s a good premise for a game. Villain Hunter Deku game please I beg
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He can but that was when he’s at peak tiredness, the sole focus, very vulnerable emotionally. If everyone directed hostility at him in the entire army at the same time it would probably stun him but not long enough for him to not start moving to not get swarmed instantly.
At UA it was “they don’t want me, my fears were right” vs here where it’s “oh shit it’s the whole army”
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Meh I think you’re underestimating the villains. Kizuki can easily prep the area with her explosions to stun Deku and minorly distract him, Geten could theoretically lock him in place with his ice or have Muscular restrain him, and Overhaul touches Deku and gg
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