Mr. Popo vs Raditz

[Flashlight237]

So here's the deal. Both Mr. Popo and Raditz are tremendously stronger than Goku and Piccolo were during the battle against Raditz. As a result, I kinda have to rely on power levels, which were a go-to scaling deal for the series during the Saiyan and Namek Sagas. According to guidebooks, Mr. Popo's power level is 1030. At the same time, the series put Raditz's power level at 1200 while guidebooks put him at 1500 to 1600. The way Raditz was played off more accurately reflects a power level of 1200, however. It is noted that power levels only work with raw power and never takes into account more important aspects like combat experience. It's almost as if power levels only serve as a baseline for how powerful a character is. As such, let's talk about combat experience.

Mr. Popo should at least be 1000 years old prior to the events of Dragon Ball Z, which alone should provide him with lord knows how much combat experience. Of course me only having seen from the start of Z until the Cell Saga, I didn't think of Mr. Popo being much of a fighter, in fact, it took me looking into his WIKI PAGE to learn that Mr. Popo indeed fought. Mr. Popo should be well aware of changes in power level seeing as how he had trained Goku, the Z-Fighters, and even Goten and Trunks. Of course the Dragon Ball series had problems with turning practically every good guy into a bystander, so uh, what are you gonna do, huh?

Raditz is classed as mid-class Saiyan warrior; however, as we've seen during the battle between Raditz and the two heroes, his skill leaves a lot to be desired. Raditz is overly reliant on his scouter, but then again, overreliance on the scouter is a common weakness among Frieza Force soldiers, with only Vegeta and Captain Ginyu having gotten around that weakness. Because of this, Raditz was largely fearful over the changes in power levels presented to him by Goku, Piccolo, and Gohan. I recall Dragon Ball Z Kai making Raditz slightly smarter than how Dragon Ball Z had it, with Raditz learning how emotions affected power levels from his rough encounter with Gohan unlike with Z itself where Raditz just went up to Gohan like "Hey! What the ****, dude?!"

It should also be noted that Mr. Popo has a wider movepool than Raditz. Raditz's only notable technique is the Double Sunday, which he had never gotten to use at any point in the series and as a result, visuals of it only existed in Dragon Ball's many fighting games. Raditz is heavily limited to only physical strikes and ki blasts. Raditz's Oozaru form is situational, as he only has access to it once every 29.53 days (how long it takes for all the lunar phases to cycle, as the Oozaru works exactly like a werewolf), making a stomp scenario from the Oozaru transformation ridiculously unlikely especially with how inept Raditz is compared to Vegeta (the latter who legit has a means to access his Oozaru form whenever he wished whereas Raditz didn't). Mr. Popo, on the other hand, can swallow energy waves and shares many abilities with Earth's fighters, not to mention the magic carpet that he can pull out of hammerspace.

This battle will be full-on SBA, which is basically just like how the series played out its many battles. That being said, here are their profiles.:

Mr. Popo's Profile

Raditz's Profile

Who takes this?

Mr. Popo: 0
Raditz: 1 (ItsOnlyDanny3)
Inconclusive: 0

 

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[ItsOnlyDanny3]

This can go either way, but I believe Raditz should win this more often than not. Even if he's Raditz, he is still a saiyan and has the innate ability to become stronger as he fights, so a power level of either 1200 or 1500 isn't necessarily set in stone for him. Popo is way more experienced which mitigates his lower power somewhat, but this can only take him so far against an opponent who, even if he's a bit of a bitch, is bred to fight, and literally gets stronger as he fights. And that is if we decide this battle doesn't take place under a full moon.
Voting Raditz for now.

 

[Mickey1940]

if you use anime feats, Mr. Popo could block hits from SSJ Goten and Trunks simultaneously before getting overwhelmed, so Popo stomps

If you use raw power levels Raditz's is 1200 while Popo's is 1030, so Raditz wins

imo Raditz wins. the pop vs kids fight is probably an outlier

 

[Flashlight237]

if you use anime feats, Mr. Popo could block hits from SSJ Goten and Trunks simultaneously before getting overwhelmed, so Popo stomps

If you use raw power levels Raditz's is 1200 while Popo's is 1030, so Raditz wins

imo Raditz wins. the pop vs kids fight is probably an outlier

Dude? Power levels aren't an end-all be-all. Otherwise, Raditz wouldn't have his ass handed to him by Piccolo and Goku (or more specifically Piccolo and his Special Beam Cannon since he wasted both Raditz and Goku with the move).

 

[Mickey1940]

Dude? Power levels aren't an end-all be-all. Otherwise, Raditz wouldn't have his ass handed to him by Piccolo and Goku (or more specifically Piccolo and his Special Beam Cannon since he wasted both Raditz and Goku with the move).

they kinda are

power levels in dragon ball are a direct measurement of your ki, and people with more ki in dragon ball tend to be capable of invalidating literally anything the weaker power level can do, unless the latter has significant hax that prevent this

Considering how neither character has hax, Raditz can simply overpower popo

 

[Flashlight237]

they kinda are

power levels in dragon ball are a direct measurement of your ki, and people with more ki in dragon ball tend to be capable of invalidating literally anything the weaker power level can do, unless the latter has significant hax that prevent this

Considering how neither character has hax, Raditz can simply overpower popo

Are you serious, dude? I've been a fan of the Dragon Ball series for quite awhile and I can just smell the bullshit in that response.

1. Piccolo and Goku were both 1/3 of Raditz' power level and they didn't use hax to beat him. Sure, they were overwhelmed by Raditz' power, but they mostly kept a somewhat even playing field by strategizing. Basically they played around Raditz' weaknesses and how easily Raditz got caught off-guard by changes in power level around him. Goku was literally able to hold Raditz with a full-nelson because he caught him off-guard, something that, if power levels actually mattered the way you think they did, would've been impossible! Also, piercing damage is not hax; just ask anyone who used an arrow, a knife, or a gun.
2. Also, there's Yamcha. His power level is 1480 according to a guidebook while a Saibaman's power level is around 1200. The Saibaman killed Yamcha in a single hit not by hax, but by latching onto Yamcha and exploding. Vs Debating entities like this site and the OBD don't normally consider explosions hax, just straight-up AP! Yamcha wasn't even worn out at that!
3. Yajirobe, whose power level is 981 according to a guidebook, literally cut off Vegeta's tail by catching Vegeta off-guard with some quick-thinking! That happened while Vegeta was in his Oozaru form (which was explicitly stated to be 10x more powerful than his base form, and his base form's power level is already nearly 20x higher than Yajirobe's! This is Yajirobe, by the way. Yajirobe had never been a ki-centric fighter, and I'd hardly even call him a fighter for that matter from how often he wusses out.
4. Need I go on about how characters can outright HIDE their power levels at times? Because there have been a ton of examples throughout the series, leading all the way up to Trunks casually soloing the remainders of Frieza's troops while supposedly having a power level of 5.

There's a lot more to fighting than "lol, stronger person wins"; otherwise we wouldn't have ratings for stamina and intelligence. There's even a common saying in the Dragon Ball fandom: "Power levels are bullshit!"

And by the way, when was Mr. Popo swallowing a kamehameha like Kirby not hax?

 

[Axl233]

Popo blocked attacks from ssj trunks and goten on the buu saga or that was just a filler? He should be 4C instead of 5C.

 

[Mickey1940]

Are you serious, dude? I've been a fan of the Dragon Ball series for quite awhile and I can just smell the bullshit in that response.

1. Piccolo and Goku were both 1/3 of Raditz' power level and they didn't use hax to beat him. Sure, they were overwhelmed by Raditz' power, but they mostly kept a somewhat even playing field by strategizing. Basically they played around Raditz' weaknesses and how easily Raditz got caught off-guard by changes in power level around him. Goku was literally able to hold Raditz with a full-nelson because he caught him off-guard, something that, if power levels actually mattered the way you think they did, would've been impossible! Also, piercing damage is not hax; just ask anyone who used an arrow, a knife, or a gun.
2. Also, there's Yamcha. His power level is 1480 according to a guidebook while a Saibaman's power level is around 1200. The Saibaman killed Yamcha in a single hit not by hax, but by latching onto Yamcha and exploding. Vs Debating entities like this site and the OBD don't normally consider explosions hax, just straight-up AP! Yamcha wasn't even worn out at that!
3. Yajirobe, whose power level is 981 according to a guidebook, literally cut off Vegeta's tail by catching Vegeta off-guard with some quick-thinking! That happened while Vegeta was in his Oozaru form (which was explicitly stated to be 10x more powerful than his base form, and his base form's power level is already nearly 20x higher than Yajirobe's! This is Yajirobe, by the way. Yajirobe had never been a ki-centric fighter, and I'd hardly even call him a fighter for that matter from how often he wusses out.
4. Need I go on about how characters can outright HIDE their power levels at times? Because there have been a ton of examples throughout the series, leading all the way up to Trunks casually soloing the remainders of Frieza's troops while supposedly having a power level of 5.

There's a lot more to fighting than "lol, stronger person wins"; otherwise we wouldn't have ratings for stamina and intelligence. There's even a common saying in the Dragon Ball fandom: "Power levels are bullshit!"

And by the way, when was Mr. Popo swallowing a kamehameha like Kirby not hax?

1. Piccolo and Goku were only able to win by hitting Raditz with beeg hard attacks. Gohan had a higher power level and therefore could harm Raditz and break his armor. Piccolo killed Raditz by charging so long that he could gather enough power to kill Raditz. If either of them were alone then Raditz would have torn them to pieces
2. Yamcha was thrashing that same Saibamen before the Saibamen cheapshotted him and killed them both. Suicide attacks are well known in DBZ to be far stronger than the user normally
3. DBZ characters are known to have far lower power levels when they have their guard down, as shown when 3A Goku was harmed by a bullet. Popo isn't skilled or varied enough to catch Raditz off guard
4. How does that help Popo from getting torn limb from limb? like yeah he can hide and then cheapshot raditz but that's not gonna keep working cuz Raditz isn't an idiot. Once Popo raises his power level high enough to launch an attack, Raditz's scouter activates and lets him know where he is, then Popo ded

yeah in most franchises strength isn't a factor, but in DBZ, esp in the lower tiers, it's kinda the only factor that actually matters
the "power levels are bullshit" thing is due to characters being able to hide their power levels, therefore stupid frieza soldiers claiming that what they see is what they get and then getting caught off guard gets them killed. Unlike in those situations, Raditz is far stronger than even Popo's best, therefore even if Popo hides his power level he's still going to get rolled. Sure you can argue that Popo can hide his power, then cheapshot him by suddenly raising it, but Raditz goes in for the kill in character and wouldn't die from any of Popo's attempts to kill him. Once he realizes what Popo's limit is he ca njust play around it and then kill him

and yeah Popo can absorb Raditz's ki blasts but that doesn't make him stronger. Raditz realizes his double sunday can't work and then starts punching Popo until he dies

Icing on the cake if they fight under a full moon Raditz goes back to monke and kills Popo by sitting on him

either way Raditz just AP and speedstomps

 

[Vizer04]

Raditz AP and speedstomps

 

[jojo123]

Raditz FRA

 

[Flashlight237]

1. Piccolo and Goku were only able to win by hitting Raditz with beeg hard attacks. Gohan had a higher power level and therefore could harm Raditz and break his armor. Piccolo killed Raditz by charging so long that he could gather enough power to kill Raditz. If either of them were alone then Raditz would have torn them to pieces
2. Yamcha was thrashing that same Saibamen before the Saibamen cheapshotted him and killed them both. Suicide attacks are well known in DBZ to be far stronger than the user normally
3. DBZ characters are known to have far lower power levels when they have their guard down, as shown when 3A Goku was harmed by a bullet. Popo isn't skilled or varied enough to catch Raditz off guard
4. How does that help Popo from getting torn limb from limb? like yeah he can hide and then cheapshot raditz but that's not gonna keep working cuz Raditz isn't an idiot. Once Popo raises his power level high enough to launch an attack, Raditz's scouter activates and lets him know where he is, then Popo ded

yeah in most franchises strength isn't a factor, but in DBZ, esp in the lower tiers, it's kinda the only factor that actually matters
the "power levels are bullshit" thing is due to characters being able to hide their power levels, therefore stupid frieza soldiers claiming that what they see is what they get and then getting caught off guard gets them killed. Unlike in those situations, Raditz is far stronger than even Popo's best, therefore even if Popo hides his power level he's still going to get rolled. Sure you can argue that Popo can hide his power, then cheapshot him by suddenly raising it, but Raditz goes in for the kill in character and wouldn't die from any of Popo's attempts to kill him. Once he realizes what Popo's limit is he ca njust play around it and then kill him

and yeah Popo can absorb Raditz's ki blasts but that doesn't make him stronger. Raditz realizes his double sunday can't work and then starts punching Popo until he dies

Icing on the cake if they fight under a full moon Raditz goes back to monke and kills Popo by sitting on him

either way Raditz just AP and speedstomps

1. You say that as if Goku and Piccolo were cavemen who only think "hit hard, if that don't work, hit harder." Raditz literally blocked one of those "beeg hard attacks" (a Kamehameha wave, which Goku controlled after he launched it because he's just that experienced with the move) after he decided to stop running away from it because "its power level is higher than mine!". Raditz was easily brought into submission by Goku grabbing Raditz's tail (which was caused by Goku making use of an opening he had!), and the only two attacks that hit him was a more concentrated blunt-force attack (Gohan's headbutt) and a piercing attack (Special Beam Attack). And no, a full nelson isn't a "beeg hard attack," it's a basic grab.
2. That isn't always the case. Chaiotzu blew himself up and the direct attack on Nappa had zero effect.
3. Popo literally trained Earth's guardians (ex. Kami and Dende), with one of his own students (Kami) pulling off Goku's tail. He would know how Saiyan tails work. Also, that bullet thing in DBS was a result of, as Goku stated himself, him getting rusty (plus it's PIS, so what does it matter?).
4. "Raditz isn't an idiot," DUDE! He shares much of the same failings as other Frieza Force soldiers: their shared cockiness over lower power levels and over-reliance on scouters, their cowardice towards higher power levels... The times Goku and Piccolo's power levels rose when charging up attacks resulted in Raditz either cowering or running away, not him deciding to intercept their attacks like a more elite fighter would! His only real feat of intelligence was goading Goku to let go of his tail before catching him off-guard. Nappa and Vegeta refined their strategies around the Z-Fighters before going up against them once they learned of Raditz's failings through their scouters (which shows us that, yes, STRATEGY matters just as much in battle).

Again, power levels don't mean jack compared to more important things like strategy. This is a Vs Debate; don't pretend that strength is the only thing that matters when characters have won by having experience/strategy by their side.

 

[SlendVeny]

Are you serious, dude? I've been a fan of the Dragon Ball series for quite awhile and I can just smell the bullshit in that response.

1. Piccolo and Goku were both 1/3 of Raditz' power level and they didn't use hax to beat him. Sure, they were overwhelmed by Raditz' power, but they mostly kept a somewhat even playing field by strategizing. Basically they played around Raditz' weaknesses and how easily Raditz got caught off-guard by changes in power level around him. Goku was literally able to hold Raditz with a full-nelson because he caught him off-guard, something that, if power levels actually mattered the way you think they did, would've been impossible! Also, piercing damage is not hax; just ask anyone who used an arrow, a knife, or a gun.

Special Beam Cannon is a power-boosted attack, and off-guard characters are weaker.

2. Also, there's Yamcha. His power level is 1480 according to a guidebook while a Saibaman's power level is around 1200. The Saibaman killed Yamcha in a single hit not by hax, but by latching onto Yamcha and exploding. Vs Debating entities like this site and the OBD don't normally consider explosions hax, just straight-up AP! Yamcha wasn't even worn out at that!

Suicide Explosions are the same.

3. Yajirobe, whose power level is 981 according to a guidebook, literally cut off Vegeta's tail by catching Vegeta off-guard with some quick-thinking! That happened while Vegeta was in his Oozaru form (which was explicitly stated to be 10x more powerful than his base form, and his base form's power level is already nearly 20x higher than Yajirobe's! This is Yajirobe, by the way. Yajirobe had never been a ki-centric fighter, and I'd hardly even call him a fighter for that matter from how often he wusses out.

Yajirobe's sword attacks are more powerful than his normal ones, Vegeta was injured, and he was off-guard.

4. Need I go on about how characters can outright HIDE their power levels at times? Because there have been a ton of examples throughout the series, leading all the way up to Trunks casually soloing the remainders of Frieza's troops while supposedly having a power level of 5.

Ki control.

 

[Flashlight237]

Special Beam Cannon is a power-boosted attack, and off-guard characters are weaker.

1. Power-boosted by a character whose power level was at or near 400 who had strategy by his side. The first Special Beam Cannon failed because of a STRATEGIC FAILURE on Goku's end that allowed Raditz and OPENING to dodge.
2. What kind of shit logic is that? No, off-guard anything aren't weaker than they were before; they just got defeated by strategy instead of strength.

Suicide Explosions are the same.

cough*Chaiotzu*cough

Yajirobe's sword attacks are more powerful than his normal ones, Vegeta was injured, and he was off-guard.

1. When was that ever mentioned anywhere?!
2. Vegeta being injured doesn't matter; Goku felt a 5x Kaioken would not work against Vegeta, and he's been in the rodeo with him longer than anyone else in the fight!

Ki control.

Which is still a legitimate form of, you guessed it, STRATEGY!

Jesus, how can people in this thread be so stupid as to downplay STRATEGY? No wonder why staff members on this wiki aren't fond of Dragon Ball anything.

 

[SlendVeny]

1. Power-boosted by a character whose power level was at or near 400 who had strategy by his side. The first Special Beam Cannon failed because of a STRATEGIC FAILURE on Goku's end that allowed Raditz and OPENING to dodge.

Obviously strategy exists, but it doesn't make you oneshot-tier.

2. What kind of shit logic is that? No, off-guard anything aren't weaker than they were before; they just got defeated by strategy instead of strength.

Have you never seen the Golden Frieza saga? Off-guard = weaker in dragon ball.

cough*Chaiotzu*cough

1. When was that ever mentioned anywhere?!

Piccolo couldn't damage saiyan armor, Yaji's sword could.

2. Vegeta being injured doesn't matter; Goku felt a 5x Kaioken would not work against Vegeta, and he's been in the rodeo with him longer than anyone else in the fight!

And the tail was the easiest part to damage.

Which is still a legitimate form of, you guessed it, STRATEGY!

Jesus, how can people in this thread be so stupid as to downplay STRATEGY? No wonder why staff members on this wiki aren't fond of Dragon Ball anything.

When did I say strategy didn't work?

 

[Mickey1940]

1. Power-boosted by a character whose power level was at or near 400 who had strategy by his side. The first Special Beam Cannon failed because of a STRATEGIC FAILURE on Goku's end that allowed Raditz and OPENING to dodge.
2. What kind of shit logic is that? No, off-guard anything aren't weaker than they were before; they just got defeated by strategy instead of strength.


cough*Chaiotzu*cough

1. When was that ever mentioned anywhere?!
2. Vegeta being injured doesn't matter; Goku felt a 5x Kaioken would not work against Vegeta, and he's been in the rodeo with him longer than anyone else in the fight!

Which is still a legitimate form of, you guessed it, STRATEGY!

Jesus, how can people in this thread be so stupid as to downplay STRATEGY? No wonder why staff members on this wiki aren't fond of Dragon Ball anything.

1. The first SBC was more than strong enough to kill Raditz
2. As someone who claims to have "been a fan of the Dragon Ball series for quite awhile", I feel like you should know that you're not correct
3. Suicide attacks are shown to be far stronger than the wielder
4. Yajirobe's sword was capable of cutting through Vegeta's battle armor while none of his other attacks were working, and Krillin would have killed him with it
5. The **** kinda strategy can Popo use when Raditz just terraforms the planet or surface wipes and calls it a day
like yeah Popo's a better martial artist but he's not gonna be able to do anything when Raditz turns the earth into a barren wasteland, especially considering Popo can't use ki blasts or fly naturally without his carpet, which Raditz can snipe out of the air

You're also forgetting that Popo is weaker than the likes of Kami, who is weaker than Goku and Piccolo individually, who get godstomped by Raditz. What's Popo gonna do against Raditz
it's fukin raditz

 

[ItsOnlyDanny3]

Jesus, how can people in this thread be so stupid as to downplay STRATEGY? No wonder why staff members on this wiki aren't fond of Dragon Ball anything.

I don't want to spend much time arguing, but to be fair you're the one who's getting hostile here

 

[SlendVeny]

I don't want to spend much time arguing, but to be fair you're the one who's getting hostile here

No, you don't get it, every loss in the franchise is just because they weren't using strategy!

 

[RagingInsomniac]

I'll have to give it to Raditz. Sure there are cases of superior combat experience invalidating power level to an extent; prime example is Goku vs Vegeta. Goku's an ACTUAL martial artist while Vegeta is more of just a warrior by nature with good intuiton and battle prowess, but ultimately is less skilled, but picks things up quickly. Throughout that fight, Goku wins exchanges not just due to the Kaioken, but also because of his actual martial arts capabilities, he does subtle things like reading the path of Vegeta's attacks to buy himself a bit more time to react to things.

But Goku also had the luxury of having techniques that could put him on Vegeta's level of power for a time. Mr.Popo has no such thing. Any strategy he has that doesn't involve getting at Raditz's tail is pointless and even then Raditz is still a competent fighter in his own right. Goku and Piccolo's strategies fell to way side such as trying to overwhelm him from multiple angles, bending the Kamehameha, etc. Strategy was part of that fight, but Goku and Piccolo did get lucky that Gohan was there to headbutt him and that, for whatever reason, everyone in DB is weak to grapples and holds at least for a little bit (the only time I can think of someone getting out of a hold jusy because they're that much stronger, without it being Goku transforming, is Perfect Cell forcing his way out of 16's failed self-destruct grab just by pushing his arms open).

Raditz for all intents and purposes should be faster and is obviously stronger. The most I can give Popo is that he MIGHT be able to absorb Raditz's ki blasts under the assumption that he can absorb attacks that are stronger than himself. With Popo being stronger than the combined strength of Goku and Piccolo at the time, this is slightly harder, but I don't think Mr.Popo has any attacks that can harm Raditz enough to cause concern, let alone anything on the level of a charged SBC.

 

[SlendVeny]

I'll have to give it to Raditz. Sure there are cases of superior combat experience invalidating power level to an extent; prime example is Goku vs Vegeta. Goku's an ACTUAL martial artist while Vegeta is more of just a warrior by nature with good intuiton and battle prowess, but ultimately is less skilled, but picks things up quickly. Throughout that fight, Goku wins exchanges not just due to the Kaioken, but also because of his actual martial arts capabilities, he does subtle things like reading the path of Vegeta's attacks to buy himself a bit more time to react to things.

I mean, Vegeta won that fight, though. Wait, actually, KRILLIN WON THAT FIGHT.

 

[FireSwordHero]

Mr Popo could win this imo. Between being able to absorb ki attacks as well his martial arts skills and ability to teleport anywhere with his magic carpet, Popo could whoop Raditz's ass more times than not.

Sure, Raditz is a Saiyan and is technically stronger than popo if we want to use power levels, but he's a bitch in the grand scheme of things. The only reason he was stomping Goku and Piccolo in high was simply because the difference in power level being 4 times greater, and even his greater power level was likely due to being on planets with a higher gravity more than anything else. Power levels in dragon ball means that the one with the higher level is faster and stronger, but at the same time power levels aren't necassarily linear, so the closer the power levels the less eazy it is to determine the victor.

But back on topic. I think that the difference in power levels between Popo and Raditz is minor enough that I don't think that it will be the deciding verdict. Granted, I would say otherwise if it was the only verdict, but its not. In terms of both fighters abilities, Popo is a much more skilled fighter, especially if he's anywhere close to the skill of Kami, whom Goku trained under, and his ability to absorb Ki attacks means that Raditz's own are a moot point.

Sure Raditz could stop feeding him Ki attacks, but then he would have to rely on melee to fight, which is where Popo's own skills will simply overwhelm the Sayian. The only thing you could say Popo lacks is the ability to use Ki attacks himself, but given his skill with absorbing Ki attacks, his own understanding of Ki, and the fact that Kami can use them, I reckon it would be same to say that Popo could do the same as well.

Not to mention that Popo has a possible hax win-con in the form of the Magic Carpet. The Magic Carpet can allow Mr Popo to teleport, so he could potentially try and TP Radtiz into space where he can't breathe, then TP back before he himself suffocates. It's not something he has done in the manga, but he is smart, has a lot of experience, and understands to use weaknesses due to being a martial artist, I would say Popo could come up with the idea in the fight, but this is mainly speculation.

Finally, weaknesses. Popo has none, at least none that Raditz could use to take a win, while Popo would already be aware of Raditz's tail weakness due to having trained Goku.

I see Popo taking the win here more times than not.

 

[SlendVeny]

Sure, Raditz is a Saiyan and is technically stronger than popo if we want to use power levels,

And feats, and statements.

but he's a bitch in the grand scheme of things.

So is Popo

The only reason he was stomping Goku and Piccolo in high was simply because the difference in power level being 4 times greater, and even his greater power level was likely due to being on planets with a higher gravity more than anything else. Power levels in dragon ball means that the one with the higher level is faster and stronger, but at the same time power levels aren't necassarily linear, so the closer the power levels the less eazy it is to determine the victor.

Cool, but Popo is weaker than those other 2.

But back on topic. I think that the difference in power levels between Popo and Raditz is minor enough that I don't think that it will be the deciding verdict.

1080 isn't accepted.

Not to mention that Popo has a possible hax win-con in the form of the Magic Carpet. The Magic Carpet can allow Mr Popo to teleport, so he could potentially try and TP Radtiz into space where he can't breathe, then TP back before he himself suffocates. It's not something he has done in the manga, but he is smart, has a lot of experience, and understands to use weaknesses due to being a martial artist, I would say Popo could come up with the idea in the fight, but this is mainly speculation.

Speculation is not allowed.

 

[Mickey1940]

Mr Popo could win this imo. Between being able to absorb ki attacks as well his martial arts skills and ability to teleport anywhere with his magic carpet, Popo could whoop Raditz's ass more times than not.

Sure, Raditz is a Saiyan and is technically stronger than popo if we want to use power levels, but he's a bitch in the grand scheme of things. The only reason he was stomping Goku and Piccolo in high was simply because the difference in power level being 4 times greater, and even his greater power level was likely due to being on planets with a higher gravity more than anything else. Power levels in dragon ball means that the one with the higher level is faster and stronger, but at the same time power levels aren't necassarily linear, so the closer the power levels the less eazy it is to determine the victor.

But back on topic. I think that the difference in power levels between Popo and Raditz is minor enough that I don't think that it will be the deciding verdict. Granted, I would say otherwise if it was the only verdict, but its not. In terms of both fighters abilities, Popo is a much more skilled fighter, especially if he's anywhere close to the skill of Kami, whom Goku trained under, and his ability to absorb Ki attacks means that Raditz's own are a moot point.

Sure Raditz could stop feeding him Ki attacks, but then he would have to rely on melee to fight, which is where Popo's own skills will simply overwhelm the Sayian. The only thing you could say Popo lacks is the ability to use Ki attacks himself, but given his skill with absorbing Ki attacks, his own understanding of Ki, and the fact that Kami can use them, I reckon it would be same to say that Popo could do the same as well.

Not to mention that Popo has a possible hax win-con in the form of the Magic Carpet. The Magic Carpet can allow Mr Popo to teleport, so he could potentially try and TP Radtiz into space where he can't breathe, then TP back before he himself suffocates. It's not something he has done in the manga, but he is smart, has a lot of experience, and understands to use weaknesses due to being a martial artist, I would say Popo could come up with the idea in the fight, but this is mainly speculation.

Finally, weaknesses. Popo has none, at least none that Raditz could use to take a win, while Popo would already be aware of Raditz's tail weakness due to having trained Goku.

I see Popo taking the win here more times than not.

christ I forgot this thread existed

1. Absorbing Ki attacks doesn't make him stronger, and doesn't stop Raditz from shoving his fist up his arse
2. Power levels in dragon ball are a direct representation of how much ki you have, and ki is used in order to raise all of your stats. Popo is weaker than Goku and Piccolo at the time. Why would someone weaker than those 2 beat someone who beat those 2 simultaneously
3. Read #2. Skill won't mean jack shit if you have neither the raw power nor variety to actually harm Raditz or catch him off guard
4. Read #2
5. the magic carpet doesn't teleport. It's just really fast. Not to mention it's slower than Raditz
6. Raditz isn't dumb enough to let someone on Popo's level grab his tail. Goku was only able to grab it by catching him off guard via Piccolo distracting him. Popo's alone here, plus the second time Goku tried grabbing his tail it didn't even work, so he had to full nelson him

Raditz needs to hit Popo once to pop Popo like a balloon. There's really nothing he can do to stop that

 

[Vizer04]

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[Nierre]

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