Mr. Fantastic kind-of upgrade

[The_Impress]

We should probably list Ultimate Nullifier on Reed’s page, the OG one, as optional equipment, dude’s the most iconic user for the thing afterall. Yeah it does mean Low 1-A Reed, but if we just list it as “Low 1-A with the Ultimate Nullifier”, should be all good.

Also, Mr. Fantastic should scale to LS to the Thing at peak, him wrapping up Ben is kind of a classic FF iconography, so it’s consistent.

Just basic additions.

 

[The_Impress]

@Antvasima Important thread given Low 1-A stuff, gather input

 

[LordTracer]

Took long enough for someone to do this

I agree.

 

[Confluctor]

Hate that it wasn't there already. Ofc I agree.

 

[CowHeadGod]

Agree as well

 

[Antvasima]

If he does not regularly have it available, and only threatened to use it once, I think that it is misleading to include it, especially if we do not know if he could use it at nearly full capacity.

 

[The_Impress]

The highest feat Ultimate Nullifier has listed on the file comes from Reed using it, so we do know he can use it at full capacity.

And he does use it very frequently, actually, since Coming of Galactus callbacks are hella abundant in comics, and he IS the most iconic user for it, across multiple medias. He doesn't have it available 24/7, but I think it should be listed regardless since we're not listing it as him having it via prep, but separate just something he very commonly has during events and whatnot.

 

[SamanPatou]

I have some doubts about him having just class T lifting strength, maybe it's best to give him up to Class T?
Because I'm not sure if he'd be able to achieve the same or even similar results without wrapping the Thing up, and even then the number of layers, his elastic natura and the way he ties himself up might give contribute greatly.

Still, I'm not really sure because he's basically a living stretchy rope and I'm ignorant on the mechanics of such thing.

Some calc member might clear the doubts.

 

[Eficiente]

Reed should have Ben's level of LS, AP and Durabily at his peak. The LS is the most consistent but w/o a justification, AP on that level is often done via attacks with a build up, and durability is often attributed to the nature of his body allowing that, all while he has lower stats against far weaker foes.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/SandboxMister_Fantastic/Feats#1961_to_1970

He can restrain/scales to the LS of Doom, Ben, an evil super gorilla as strong as Ben and Super Skrull, can harm Namor, Super Skrull and Ben, and can take hits from Namor, Ben and Super Skrull.

 

[The_Impress]

Reed's weird though. he has weird stat amps and then has a wierd blunt attack resist. I'm fine with listing him that tier with those clarifications

 

[Antvasima]

The highest feat Ultimate Nullifier has listed on the file comes from Reed using it, so we do know he can use it at full capacity.

And he does use it very frequently, actually, since Coming of Galactus callbacks are hella abundant in comics, and he IS the most iconic user for it, across multiple medias. He doesn't have it available 24/7, but I think it should be listed regardless since we're not listing it as him having it via prep, but separate just something he very commonly has during events and whatnot.

Okay. I suppose that it is probably fine then.

 

[The_Impress]

@Qawsedf234 @DarkDragonMedeus if possible, input as well.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I suppose this is fine

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like this has been accepted to be applied then.

 

[The_Impress]

Mister Fantastic

Reed Richards, better known as Mister Fantastic, is the leader of the Fantastic Four and the head of the Future Foundation. A nearly unparalleled scientist, he invited his colleagues Susan Storm, Johnny Storm, and Ben Grimm to test an experimental spacecraft of his own design as the government...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Done, can you lock his page?

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. I will lock it, yes.

Should we close this thread then?

 

[The_Impress]

yeah, I'll close it.