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Sure.Can you write a reminder explanation of what we need to evaluate here please?
Just a statement of being made of light isn't enough. I'm not sure about Thunder, though, normally I'd say it doesn't work since just being called thunder isn't enough, but Lucas literally gets struck by lightning to learn PK Thunder so maybe. Then again, IIRC PK Thunder misses because it's not an accurate move, is there any way to know it's actually being dodged?Welp...
Ooof, yeah the only thing which I can rely here for now is statement since we have lack of visuals...
In other words... I can rely here on PK Flash and "Dazzling light".
Since we don't will use lasers for Ness and others. Is it possible to scale characters to PK Thunder? What do you think Armor?
As well as others if you're reading this.
Lucas actually learned PK Flash via lighting, but I'll be honest Thunder in Earthbound is more realistic than thunder in Pokémon.Just a statement of being made of light isn't enough. I'm not sure about Thunder, though, normally I'd say it doesn't work since just being called thunder isn't enough, but Lucas literally gets struck by lightning to learn PK Thunder so maybe. Then again, IIRC PK Thunder misses because it's not an accurate move, is there any way to know it's actually being dodged?
Atm @DarkDragonMedeus and @Armorchompy giving good input for thread.Okay. That largely seems good to me.
Which staff members have commented here previously?
Armorchompy makes sense to me. Thank you for helping out.Just a statement of being made of light isn't enough. I'm not sure about Thunder, though, normally I'd say it doesn't work since just being called thunder isn't enough, but Lucas literally gets struck by lightning to learn PK Thunder so maybe. Then again, IIRC PK Thunder misses because it's not an accurate move, is there any way to know it's actually being dodged?
You want clips showing that one lightning strike is being shown to be dodged right?Just a statement of being made of light isn't enough. I'm not sure about Thunder, though, normally I'd say it doesn't work since just being called thunder isn't enough, but Lucas literally gets struck by lightning to learn PK Thunder so maybe. Then again, IIRC PK Thunder misses because it's not an accurate move, is there any way to know it's actually being dodged?
Yeah, Mother do go realistic when it comes to creating PSI attacks. Anyway, If we would go referencing PK Flash as Stun Greande we should use either Speed of sound or rather the light of that Flashbang? To make sure.You want clips showing that one lightning strike is being shown to be dodged right?
May need some time for everyone to find a clip for that.
Meanwhile I do not know if this is good enough for PK Flash or other flashes to be actual light:
PK Flash has an effect of making "enemies suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or they become unconscious".PK Flash
For the PSI move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Flash (Super Smash Bros.). PK Flash (Japanese: PKフラッシュ PK Flash), known as PSI Flash in EarthBound, is a PSI ability in EarthBound and Mother 3. It targets all enemies and may cause them to suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or...earthbound.fandom.com
Which are similar to effects from a flash bang
Stun grenade - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I'm fine with knowing it's possible but a clip would be niceYou want clips showing that one lightning strike is being shown to be dodged right?
May need some time for everyone to find a clip for that.
PK Flash can also kill you on the spot, which a flashbang doesn't do. It doesn't paralize you either.Meanwhile I do not know if this is good enough for PK Flash or other flashes to be actual light:
PK Flash has an effect of making "enemies suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or they become unconscious".PK Flash
For the PSI move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Flash (Super Smash Bros.). PK Flash (Japanese: PKフラッシュ PK Flash), known as PSI Flash in EarthBound, is a PSI ability in EarthBound and Mother 3. It targets all enemies and may cause them to suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or...earthbound.fandom.com
Which are similar to effects from a flash bang
Stun grenade - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Yeah but PK Beam has nothing to do with the other moves being debated here. So that's only one condition for it.PK Beam is a beam that does not do damage on "mechanic enemies", which can be hinting the "light" is reflected away on the shiny surface of the metallic object which is the enemy.
PSI
PSI (Psionics) or PK (Psychokinesis) refers to the psychic powers that appear throughout the Mother series. The numerous PSI-wielding allies and enemies throughout the series each have their own array of PSI powers that they are able to draw from. As characters level up, they will gain access to...earthbound.fandom.com
I'm not contesting PK Thunder isn't electricity, I'm just unsure if it's comparable to lightning specifically.And as a step backward, PK Thunder is almost always effective against machines and mechanical chimeras
Which can hint that it is attracted to machines like real lightning strike is attracted to metallic spiky objects.PK Thunder
This article is about the offensive PSI in the Mother series. For the Special Move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Thunder (Super Smash Bros.). PK Thunder (Japanese: PKサンダー PK Thunder), known as PSI Thunder in EarthBound, is an offensive PSI ability in all three Mother series games. PK...earthbound.fandom.com
I believe atm the only thing left is to discuss speed stuff.Have there been any conclusions reached here so far?
Makes sense actually.I'm not sure if the time stop thing isn't just game mechanics tbh, considering the game probably treats it as a normal attack
Basically this.
- Change tier and AP of Gyigas Mother 1 key to High 7-C since this is the accepted result as far as I can see (Requires Gyigas's profile to be open)
- Change mentioned in verse AP from low end of calc to mid end of calc (in other words change "High 8-C" on verse page to "8-B")
- Add abilities to Kumatora and Duster which are already mentioned on their profiles.
- Change speed of everyone in Mother verse from FTL (since for now light dodging stuff doesn't seems legit) to Subsonic via scaling to Ninten (Requires Ness's and Gyigas's profile to be open).
- As far as I see, Ness's Time Stop resistance concluded to be non legit so resistance to time stop should be gone from Ness's profile (requires Ness's profile to be open)