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Mortal Kombat 1 Discussion Thread
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Dust_Collector
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Y'all want 2-C MK, I want them to just be 5-A via the black hole so I can put them against Zelda characters.
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That black hole is at least high 5-A my guy.
Dust_Collector
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Nuh uh, 5-A because I say so
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That thing is almost 2 meters, I'm gonna have to crease your jays for that Dust_Collector
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2-C is old news, 2-A MK is where it's at.
Seriously though, is being "beyond" or "outside" of time still not grounds for immeasurable speed?
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As if we saw Liu Kang literally traversing such a distance.
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I ain't holding my breath for Immeasurable speed in MK as well, just asking if we can get something out of Liu Kang and his Tital pals fighting Shang Tsung and his goons in a place that's described to be "beyond the realms".
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From the looks of it even the void is beyond the Hourglass
Just let them dodge jobber Kotal Kahn's sunbeam and we can get FTL+ to MFTL MK
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The suspected Conan the Barbarian might be Kotal actually so maybe we will see that soon.
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Yeah, the Void seems pretty unhelpful. It just contains people, whilst they're still completely conscious inside and are able to observe the events in the realms.
Has anyone ever dodged Kotal's sunbeams in MKX/MK11?
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It's just how it used to be in the old games apart from the time mechanics addition
No but Mileena firing Shinnok's Amulet before the sun beam that Kotal channeled to block it has potential. Don't get your hopes up tho
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One of the intro dialogues has Peacemaker say to him to trade him his broadsword. Do Aztecs typically use broadswords?
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If you count Kotal's swords in MK11 yes, could be a broadsword because American VA can't be bothered to pronounce "Macuahuitl"
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@JohnHendrix212 its stopped being a standard for immeasurable speed for a while. You need them to move through time with speed for them to have immeasurable speed in the first place.
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I think it's definitely Conan.
In May 2023 there was already a rumor talking about Conan the Barbarian in MK, and this information was given by the same person who started the rumor of Peacemaker and Homelander in MK1
There are even references to dialogues from the Conan 1982 movie, according to leaks from dataminers
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I wonder if they're going to make him a "simple" barbarian who fights without anything magical or give him some occult abilities or weapons, maybe related to Crom (granted considering Crom's attitude about his followers, or anything else for that matter)
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Can anyone here calc and/or get someone to calc?
The feats we need calced are;
Shang Tsung: Breaks a hole in wall with fireball.
Scorpion: Melted stone swords from heat aura.
Sindel: Breaks ceiling with her screech.
Raiden, Shang Tsung, and Quan Chi: Blasts portal with elemental powers. Again here.
Dark Rain: Lifts and disperses a bunch of water.
Just eyeballing it, Shang Tsung's feat is 9-B, Scorpion's is (idk heat energy, maybe 9-A?), Sindel's is 9-A, and the trio's feat is 8-C divided by three, and Rain's is maybe 9-B or 9-A
The order of importance is probably Sindel > Trio > Scorpion > Rain > Shang Tsung
I plan to replay story mode soon, I'll keep an eye out. The only other feats off the top of my head are;
The feats we need calced are;
Shang Tsung: Breaks a hole in wall with fireball.
Scorpion: Melted stone swords from heat aura.
Sindel: Breaks ceiling with her screech.
Raiden, Shang Tsung, and Quan Chi: Blasts portal with elemental powers. Again here.
Dark Rain: Lifts and disperses a bunch of water.
Just eyeballing it, Shang Tsung's feat is 9-B, Scorpion's is (idk heat energy, maybe 9-A?), Sindel's is 9-A, and the trio's feat is 8-C divided by three, and Rain's is maybe 9-B or 9-A
The order of importance is probably Sindel > Trio > Scorpion > Rain > Shang Tsung
I plan to replay story mode soon, I'll keep an eye out. The only other feats off the top of my head are;
- Reptile's KE from his dropdown attack
- Sub-Zero freezing people
- Nitara's KE and speed in one of her attacks because she actually moves really fast
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Once again, the devs said that Rain is strong enough to kick you around the world despite not being a physically oriented character. Or are you lot going to continue to ignore this just because it doesn't happen in a cutscene?
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This is a warning. Stop trying to be a smartass
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Whats the name of the kick in the movelist?
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Really, my dude? Feeling extra power trippy today, are we? That was an extremely mild comment, don't threaten me for no reason.
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Easy bro, we all want baller feats for our verses, there's no need for such snark.
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Ngl without finishers MK1 is embarrassingly lacking compared to even its previous timelines, no definite speed calc yet and lower showings for even those who are supposed to be top tier, except for titans Shang and Liu. They only got new and relatively improved abilities (Shang, Kenshi, Liu, Geras) from the first story mode so I wonder if Invasions being considered canon down the road (hope I'm not forgetting but I think he said they're not canon FOR NOW) and the story ending feats will add a lot to their tiers. Not only does it have Rain's flood feat but Shao's ancestors restrained Onaga (super big guy) with their pure might (both with magic and LS) in his ending so I wonder if Shao being the jobber he is right now has a lot to redeem if he's to be comparable to his ancestors
Right now I'd like to hold back on MK1 CRTs and focus on the previous games because even the MK9-11 versions need a polish
Right now I'd like to hold back on MK1 CRTs and focus on the previous games because even the MK9-11 versions need a polish
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That reminds me, in MK3’s intro they refer to Earthrealm as just the planet earth as opposed to part of the entire universe like NRS treats the realms. Does that mean Midway and NRS have different cosmologies on top of that?
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Retocon prob. In an interview Ed boon said it extended past Earth pre mk1
Dust_Collector
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I think earthrealm being just the planet got retconned as early as deadly alliance, Nitara refers to earthrealms sun as being deadly to her people implying that the realm includes, well, the sun.
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In MK1 they straight say the realms form the universe so that's that
Dust_Collector
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Dunno if this was already brought up, but are we treating Subzero physically breaking free of Ermacs telekinesis as a lifting strength feat or resistance to telekinesis? Because we could get some decent lifting strength ratings from Ermac and Kenshi chucking a bunch of large boulders at high speed
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Does this imply that the realms occupy the same Universe (Like, is Outworld just located at a different galaxy?), or is Liu Kang referring to the realms generally, like the Mortal Kombat Universe as a whole?
Because each realm having their own time-space wouldn't make sense in this case. no? Aren't the realms their own universes?
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It would be both I'd reckon.
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The Void exists in Liu's universe, which is the space between realms. It's not outer space since you can see through time in the Void, so it's probably separate worlds with the Void between them
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Yeah, I though so. So Liu Kang was just speaking generally then, when referring to the realms as comprising the whole of the Universe. The universe he's saying here is just the entire cosmology.
And I really doubt Liu Kang would be so stupid as to make it so that each realm share the same universe so Outworld can have an even easier time conquering all other realms. It just doesn't make sense narratively.
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It's never been like that in any universe in the MK games ever. Even the initial writer for the very first MK, John Tobias, had something like this in mind rather than Outworld travelling through outer space to conquer realms
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Really I’d prefer 5-A too since that means Raiden vs Thor is viable
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I mean, we do see Liu creating an entire universe with space and all in the intro
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Would their physical strength scale to their magical feats or should we count them as one like the old profiles?
For the finishers, there's Liu Kang creating a black hole
