Monsters of ice and fire (Giadrome vs Flame Snake)

[Peppersalt43]

Ice Raptor : 0
Flame Snek : 7
Incon : 0

Giaprey and minor Flame Snake used
Speed equalized
Starting distance is 5 meters

 

[Peppersalt43]

Ah, the first bump

 

[Mr. Bambu]

AP wise Fire Snake takes it, upscaling from 1.11 Tons of TNT vs 5.36 kg of TNT for the Giaprey. This is a difference of about 200x, not accounting for upscaling.

 

[Peppersalt43]

AP wise Fire Snake takes it, upscaling from 1.11 Tons of TNT vs 5.36 kg of TNT for the Giaprey. This is a difference of about 200x, not accounting for upscaling.

Wait what? I thought Minor Flame Snake is the 9-B key

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Ahhhh, that tracks

I misread, my apologies.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Ahhhh, that tracks

I misread, my apologies.

So now that you know this, is your verdict changed? Or do you need to know anything else?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

AP wise Fire Snake takes it, upscaling from 1.11 Tons of TNT vs 5.36 kg of TNT for the Giaprey. This is a difference of about 200x, not accounting for upscaling.

So the infant fire snake has an AP of about 1.94 kg, meaning it is at a 2.76x disadvantage. Definitely surmountable, also noting that it upscales a little.

The Flame Snake has the benefit of passive damage around it and mobility, since it can stick to damn walls. It is stealthy and also inflicts a poison bite that reduces an enemy's strength.

The giaprey has the obvious advantage of AP and its own status effect, that is one of freezing an enemy. D&D has in the past given resistance to freezing, although I think this is mitigated by the Flame Snake's distinctive weakness to cold effects (more on that later).

Both of them are weak to the damage type of the other. Both of them are reasonably equal in intelligence (the profile states "Average" intelligence for Giaprey but it also states this is for Large Monsters- which Giaprey is not, iirc it is functionally an animal). Both of them have presumably approximately equal range.

So this boils down to

• Some level of stealth
• Passive damage aura
• A strength-reducing poison bite
• Questionably relevant mobility (might help with stealth)

vs

• A marginal AP advantage
• Potential to freeze the fire snake maybe
• Now that I'm thinking of it, a tiny LS advantage too

I'd say the heat aura is the most noteworthy thing going on here, since that means that the Giaprey physically attacking it is going to cause damage. The benefits of the Flame Snake are mostly considerable whereas it's arguable that the Giaprey might not even have one of its advantage (the freezing one, I'd consider it fair game but its definitely shaky). All told, I'd vote in favor of the Flame Snake 70/100 fights. It has more opportunities to inflict damage, and even though its working from a weaker position, it can change that with one single bite.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Flame Snake FRA
I'll also add that unless given feats rn the Flame Snake has superior stamina, which would let it go longer after getting hurt

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Anyway, bump

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Flame Snake FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Anyway, bump

 

[Giannysmag]

"One must imagine Sisyphus is happy"
Anyhow Flame Snake FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Hey, 3 more votes to grace!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Come on...

 

[Peppersalt43]

3 more...

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump...

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Slithery Boi FRA.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[V999]

Flame Snake FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

And just to get this concluded

Snek FRA

And that's grace, thank you everyone

{Also in case you're wondering, this is allowed based on this thread}