Misogi Kumagawa vs Luke Skywalker (Legends)

[Schnee_One]

How the **** did Medaka even do it?

Can I have a scan?

 

[Agnaa]

How the **** did Medaka even do it?

Can I have a scan?

Medaka didn't use All-Fiction to erase mindhax. She used Weighted Words to counteract mindhax that was done to her through Weighted Words.

Her friends appeared and reminded her of their friendship, she put her hands on her brain and mindhaxed herself back.

 

[The_Causality]

@Garg Medaka Mindhaxed herself to overpower/overwrite the Mind Hax of another guy.

But the potency is astronomically different between Medaka's one and Luke.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Incon FRA

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

How can he use all fiction to erase mindhax
While mindhaxed?

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This shows that kumagawa can make All fiction automatically activate after his death. So it went down like this

1. Before he died, he activated All fiction

2. He's dead

3. All fiction activated automatically after his death and made the reality that he died nonexistent.

Shouldn't he be able to do something similar against Luke? For instance

1. Before Luke Mindhaxed him, he activates All fiction

2. Luke Mindhaxes Kumagawa

3. All fiction activates After Luke mindhaxes him and makes the reality that luke mindhaxed him nonexistent.

 

[Agnaa]

@TheAbsoluteOne He didn't activate fiction before death to do that. His resurrection from All-Fiction doesn't require him to "activate it first". And we have no reason to believe that AF automatically triggers when mindhaxxed.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Unless of course the mind hax can cause someone to go brain dead

 

[Agnaa]

Unless of course the mind hax can cause someone to go brain dead

I don't know if "brain dead" is Medaka Box's requirement for death/All Fiction activating.

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

@TheAbsoluteOne He didn't activate fiction before death to do that. His resurrection from All-Fiction doesn't require him to "activate it first". And we have no reason to believe that AF automatically triggers when mindhaxxed.

He literally states that he was in a hurry to use all fiction, so it activated after his death. Meaning he'd have to use all fiction before he died, and then it activated after his death. Unless you're telling me that he used all fiction while he was dead and then it activated (which of course doesn't make any sense) If he can do that, I don't see why he can't do the same thing against Luke.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@agnaa

That is the go to state. As seen from his head being destroyed

 

[Agnaa]

He literally states that he was in a hurry to use all fiction, so it activated after his death. Meaning he'd have to use all fiction before he died, and then it activated after his death. Unless you're telling me that he used all fiction while he was dead and then it activated (which of course doesn't make any sense) If he can do that, I don't see why he can't do the same thing against Luke.

All the other cases make it clear that it's an automatic thing that activates after his death. That's how it's treated on profiles and in battles, if you want to change that you're free to open a CRT.

I'm not telling you that he used all fiction while he was dead. I'm telling you that all fiction automatically activates when the user dies to undo their death.

 

[Agnaa]

@agnaa

That is the go to state. As seen from his head being destroyed

I'm pretty sure there's been other times when his head hasn't been destroyed but he's still resurrected.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Yeah, but presumably the brain died as well

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

He literally states that he was in a hurry to use all fiction, so it activated after his death. Meaning he'd have to use all fiction before he died, and then it activated after his death. Unless you're telling me that he used all fiction while he was dead and then it activated (which of course doesn't make any sense) If he can do that, I don't see why he can't do the same thing against Luke.

All the other cases make it clear that it's an automatic thing that activates after his death. That's how it's treated on profiles and in battles, if you want to change that you're free to open a CRT.
I'm not telling you that he used all fiction while he was dead. I'm telling you that all fiction automatically activates when the user dies to undo their death.

Okay, if thats the case, there's no reason that suggest that All fiction wouldn't automatically activate if someone tried to take over his mind. Whatever, my vote was inconclusive in the first place. Somone just needs to close this. Neither one has the advantage,

 

[Agnaa]

Okay, if thats the case, there's no reason that suggest that All fiction wouldn't automatically activate if someone tried to take over his mind. Whatever, my vote was inconclusive in the first place. Somone just needs to close this. Neither one has the advantage,

The reason to assume it wouldn't automatically activate is because mind control isn't death. He's still alive, he just can't act as he usually does.

Inconclusive matches don't get closed.

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

Well than shouldn't this be added as inconclusive? Not sure why this is still going.

 

[Agnaa]

Threads don't get added until they reach at least 7 votes for one outcome.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Inconclusive FRA.

 

[Lenus010]

hm

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

Threads don't get added until they reach at least 7 votes for one outcome.

Jesus.

 

[Agnaa]

Jesus.

Versus Thread Rules

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

Jesus.

Versus Thread Rules

Okay, well I voted inconclusive, not sure if you have. I know there's at least 3 other people here who also voted inconclusive. So a couple of more votes and this should be added.

 

[Agnaa]

I have voted incon. There's 6 inconclusive votes so far, one vote and a 24 hour grace and this can be added.

 

[Phoenix821]

Inconclusive FRA.

 

[Agnaa]

Alright, 7 incon votes, grace starts now.

 

[TheAbsoluteOne]

Alright, 7 incon votes, grace starts now.

Great, really no reason for this to continue on.

 

[Agnaa]

There's a mandatory 24 hour "grace period" after the 7 votes come in before the match gets added.