• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Miraculous Ladybug General Discussion 2

Lort15 said:
Ladybug's luck manipulation made him insane🤪
Click to expand...
Agreed, but imagine yourself as a villain who is constantly being thwarted by teenager with the literal power of luck on her side.

wait, why were the kwamis in fear of gabriel's/ Gimmi wish? The wish still a destroys and recreates the universe and it has been used in the past a lot, the kwamis have survived wish event before to the point of being aware of its capabilities and Gabriel could've or would've used a random serial killer as exchange for emilie's life and all would be well way before he cataclysm if has gotten the miraculous before then. It wouldn't force gab to descend stairs of insanity.
 
Cipher333 said:
Agreed, but imagine yourself as a villain who is constantly being thwarted by teenager with the literal power of luck on her side.

wait, why were the kwamis in fear of gabriel's/ Gimmi wish? The wish still a destroys and recreates the universe and it has been used in the past a lot, the kwamis have survived wish event before to the point of being aware of its capabilities
Click to expand...
They don't have to be ok with "watching" an entire universe of people being dizimated, considering each one is a concept is likely they are somewhat affected if for example the Kwami of love lost every loving soul on the universe.
Cipher333 said:
and Gabriel could've or would've used a random serial killer as exchange for emilie's life and all would be well way before he cataclysm if has gotten the miraculous before then. It wouldn't force gab to descend stairs of insanity.
Click to expand...
Problem there are you sure is Gabriel who decides who dies? It states the universe requires balance it's very likely more than just "an eye for an eye", but more on metaphoric way, for example it was highly implied that Max would have lost his humanity if Markov became human.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
They don't have to be ok with "watching" an entire universe of people being dizimated, considering each one is a concept is likely they are somewhat affected if for example the Kwami of love lost every loving soul on the universe.

Problem there are you sure is Gabriel who decides who dies? It states the universe requires balance it's very likely more than just "an eye for an eye", but more on metaphoric way, for example it was highly implied that Max would have lost his humanity if Markov became human.
Click to expand...
Yeah Gabriel was choosing the sacriface, Marinette asked him " but who" for wish and Gabriel answered her " anyone except us!" Tikki and Plagg explained his wish to Marinette tho he choosed to give his own life to bring back Nathalie
 
Lort15 said:
Yeah Gabriel was choosing the sacriface, Marinette asked him " but who" for wish and Gabriel answered her " anyone except us!"
Click to expand...
Except he never did that, and if he did he would have caused a disaster needed to be stopped which was what happened before when he made a wish and Marinetta had to use Sass's power to stop it, or when in Londom the wish caused such a change that it was the end and had to be stopped.
Lort15 said:
Tikki and Plagg explained his wish to Marinette tho he choosed to give his own life to bring back Nathalie
Click to expand...
His sacrifice was in line with the balance, sacrifice someone else it doesn't, Marinetta stated that if the wish is used for his own advantage it would cause disaster, by sacrificing his life made it "good" so the balance was kept, if he sacrificed some random he would have made it "bad" so it would cause disaster, if it isn't someone close to him it isn't a sacrifice.
 
Lort15

Thread 'Miraculous Ladybug and Cat Noir CRT Part 1'

I see that verse's profiles are so dry and outdated so lemme show some new scans from season 5

Key addition:

Monarch key 1 (pre rings) : All abilities of other miraculouses that stolen by Monarch except Ladybug, Black Cat, Peacock miraculous


Monarch key 2 (post rings): All abilities of other miraculouses that stolen by Monarch except Ladybug, Black Cat, Peacock and Rabbit miraculous


2-B/2-A range Ladybiquity: Ladybiquity (aka kamokatized Ladybug) is exist in every universe at the same time to stop Monarch (i'm not...
  • Like
 
you pinged wrong person lol but i get you, i'm thinking to make a crt about all abilities granted by Butterfly, Peacock and Rooster miraculous
 
also Supernatural Luck and Probability manipulation for Ladybug i have some scans about it
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
And who will get them
Click to expand...
likely the users? Butterfly miraculous holders can akumatize theirselves like Lila and Gabriel, Peacock miraculous holders sentimonsters are under control the holders as long as they hold their amokatized items so via sentimonsters would be okay and rooster is already granting it's power for user
 
Lort15 said:
likely the users? Butterfly miraculous holders can akumatize theirselves like Lila and Gabriel, Peacock miraculous holders sentimonsters are under control the holders as long as they hold their amokatized items so via sentimonsters would be okay and rooster is already granting it's power for user
Click to expand...
Are you just gonna list every sintimonster and villain's powers as part of the holdiers power set? It's really weird because he gave some really OP hax to his villains/sentimonsters which if he had used them there was no stopping him
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Are you just gonna list every sintimonster and villain's powers as part of the holdiers power set? It's really weird because he gave some really OP hax to his villains/sentimonsters which if he had used them there was no stopping him
Click to expand...
yeah but that crt is much in future i have some mlb crts in my mind before that
 
S6ep 1 on 25 jan so I hope we can get most of previous stuff before S6 gets released
 
Lort15 said:
yeah but that crt is much in future i have some mlb crts in my mind before that
Click to expand...
I think I might do a ladybug profile, one with less keys with actual justifications and scans but I ain't doing that for all characters. I hate them with so many keys.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
I think I might do a ladybug profile, one with less keys with actual justifications and scans but I ain't doing that for all characters. I hate them with so many keys.
Click to expand...
twilight made one check our mssgs in my profile

EDIT: nvm twilight shared it already
 
i feel like we could scale base mari to 7-C, high 7-C maybe? i remember her taking attacks from villains
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
I am actually working on her profiles
vsbattles.fandom.com

TWILIGHT-OP/Ladybug's Revamp

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
Click to expand...
Still has many keys, lack scans and references. I think there is no point in making keys for the seasons, the changes between them are little to none and we are copying the previous keys.

I was thinking in
One key for Marinetta which I still don't see it as usefull but ok
Another key for Ladybug will also have the cookies boost (or whatever those are) will include everything from all seasons including her weakness disappearing because she grown up.
Another key for her guardian of the miraculous, which would include all fusions of all miraculous with a "varies" up to X with Y miraculous higher with fusions. You could also add the fusions on her notable attacks section with an explaination

Also I think her miraculous would be best to be taken as Restoration, with that we can forget the whole "not battle applicable" as restoration already covers the limitations of her power.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Still has many keys, lack scans and references. I think there is no point in making keys for the seasons, the changes between them are little to none and we are copying the previous keys.

I was thinking in
One key for Marinetta which I still don't see it as usefull but ok
Another key for Ladybug will also have the cookies boost (or whatever those are) will include everything from all seasons including her weakness disappearing because she grown up.
Another key for her guardian of the miraculous, which would include all fusions of all miraculous with a "varies" up to X with Y miraculous higher with fusions. You could also add the fusions on her notable attacks section with an explaination

Also I think her miraculous would be best to be taken as Restoration, with that we can forget the whole "not battle applicable" as restoration already covers the limitations of her power.
Click to expand...
i feel like we need some calculations for unifications, like 2 miraculous is giving 2X physical boost
 
Lort15 said:
eh i feel like it since writers aren't scalers they didn't pay attention much on power boost all unifications looks comparable with regular miraculous users
Click to expand...
Exacly because we haven't seen any reason to scale miraculous fusion that way, do we really have any evidence that she becames stronger physically with the fusion?
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Exacly because we haven't seen any reason to scale miraculous fusion that way, do we really have any evidence that she becames stronger physically with the fusion?
Click to expand...
common sense unification is using the activated 2 miraculous at the same time which means both must grant their all abilities to the holder, we are even using these in the profiles like "all previous abilities"
 
Also cutting keys will take down half or tier section which imp is good actually most of them were repetitive anyways
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
If you cutting keys then why even 3 just let it 2 with marinette and ladybug
Click to expand...
As I said before I don't even see a reason to have Marinetta as a key so much so that the page is called Ladybug not Marinetta so sure, I just thought you guys might wanna keep it.
 
Well marinette is her real self and base so I don't think that should be removed
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
Well marinette is her real self and base so I don't think that should be removed
Click to expand...
It's common for a lot of heroes to have secret identities and not having a key for those or their depowered versions before getting powers. the main focus of the show is Ladybug and Catnoir. But I don't have any problem keeping it, it even has a calc so it's fine, but I still think it's not necessary
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Lort15
  • Locked
(DONE) Miraculous CRT Part 8
Replies
38
Views
3K
Lort15
Lort15
Masonic9+2
Why I THINK that Catblanc wasn’t holding back on Ladybug, and why Ladybug (Season 3) beats Catblanc
2
Replies
42
Views
4K
Masonic9+2
Masonic9+2
Lort15
  • Locked
Miraculous CRT Part 6
2
Replies
72
Views
5K
Lort15
Lort15
Lort15
Miraculous CRT Part 9
2
Replies
60
Views
4K
Lort15
Lort15
Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir CRT: Tier 7 Downgrade
Replies
17
Views
2K
Lort15
Lort15
Back
Top