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it ain't just statements
gameplay supports it
gameplay supports it
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Minor mario
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This is high durability.
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ZespeonGalaxy
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If a single statement that explicitly states that hey invincibility got bypassed I dont see the need to count it as anything but as I mentioned invincibility negation. How else is mario supposed to beat dimentio physically if hes invincible? No need for mental gymnastics, if a single lore statement isnt enough then might as well nuke kratos No Shade To GOW or Kratos at all I absolutely buy his scaling on here
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they'd treat it as stat reduction, or some other arbitrary ability that doesn't match the context of the damn story
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oi, I said this about 3 times now
statements aren't the only piece of evidence shown, gameplay supports it along with visual contrasts
statements aren't the only piece of evidence shown, gameplay supports it along with visual contrasts
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The gameplay is just Dimentio not taking damage, which isn’t enough for the ability.
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it's definitely enough if ya stopped ignoring all the other pieces of info I brought:
the visual effects on his model got a stark contrast from before the Pure Hearts remove his invincibility,
to after
high durability shouldn't allow Super Dimentio to be completely unphased by Bowser's fire breath
the guy makes it clear when he's invincible, and when he's not invincible, as intended by the developers of the game
but despite all that, you'd still regard it as just "high durability"?
the visual effects on his model got a stark contrast from before the Pure Hearts remove his invincibility,
to after
high durability shouldn't allow Super Dimentio to be completely unphased by Bowser's fire breath
the guy makes it clear when he's invincible, and when he's not invincible, as intended by the developers of the game
but despite all that, you'd still regard it as just "high durability"?
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Dust_Collector
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Given this convo is just “nuh-uh” now, let’s just see what other staff besides me and Medeus think and call it a day.
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welp, rip
to hell with the standards
to hell with the standards
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You are the one ignoring the rules. If I took a punch from someone IRL and took 0 damage, the standard assumption isn't that I had magical hax that magically reduced the force of the punch to 0, the assumption is just that I am much too durable for them. Same goes for all in game attacks.
We had countless discussions about what Invulnerability is, check here, here, here, here, here, and here.
The Chaos Heart is a physical amp that raises durability until it reaches AP and his ability to destroy/devourer the multiverse and recreate it; it's not invulnerability hax. We'd have a lot more Glass cannons with invulnerability hax by what you're proposing.
Also, considering Fire is NOT hax nor does it grant durability negation, raw durability is more than enough to tank fire breaths; it only pierces defense because game mechanics. A 2-B character would be immune to a 3-C character's fire breath and they don't need invulnerability hax to do that. And again, "Invincible" is a statement prone to NLF and even if taken seriously, it just means second to none and cannot be conquered. Pure Hearts are just amping the AP of the party to match the Chaos Heart, nothing more.
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No, I'm saying it isn't even power null and just durability
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you mean the bullshit rules that make it nigh-impossible for some characters to have this particular ability listed, despite the very clear intentions from the literal developers of the game?
ain't arguin against all that, nor am I about to deal with a possible 3-on-1
if ya don't wanna listen to reason, then so be it
I give up
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Yeah not seeing invul negation, this just looks like power null at best, disagree
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Actually, no I'm wrong I went ahead and tested. The effects only work after the Pure Hearts cutscenes. Wtf.
Testing out on Bleck / Super Dimentio after he gets his barrier hit by the Pure Hearts surrounding him; Fleep still doesn't even work on either of them.
Bleck / Super Dimentio can be affected by the Stop Watch and Snow Bunnies (and perma stunned) post cutscenes. Sleepy Sheep doesn't work on Super Dimentio at all even though the effect can go off while he's vincible but Bleck can be put to sleep for a little only post cutscene. They should get stuff like that added on to their resistances on their pages since they full on resist it beforehand. Maybe a third key could be made? I can get the gifs to back this up too.
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We should give Bleck and Super Dimentio resistances to whatever status effects they resist. I think with his forcefield, he should get resistance to everything in the 4 heroes' arsenal except for the Pure Hearts' power null of course
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hold it right there
I ain't bein aggressive, or at least tryna be, but havin valid points be disregarded cuz of some wack-ass standards y'all abide by is pretty disheartening for people like me that try to better a verse/profile
if how I type is such an issue cuz of how blunt I can be, then that's just how it'll be with me, I ain't gon apologize
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Instead of being a huge baby about it why not just try to revise Invulnerability to make its standards less strict?
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my guy, are ya really resorting to name-calling cuz I'm speaking my mind? that's pretty ******, especially when I haven't done same
be better man, you're an admin for god's sake
I'd also love to revise that page, along with the other unfair shit that's been left on here by yall, but I ain't got the brain for that
so I'm workin with it
be better man, you're an admin for god's sake
I'd also love to revise that page, along with the other unfair shit that's been left on here by yall, but I ain't got the brain for that
so I'm workin with it
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Not calling you a baby, “being a baby” is an expression for “acting immature”.
And yeah I’m not really sorry for saying so given your conduct here.
Alright then.
Closing shop since this is rejected.
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