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Mickey Mouse vs Twilight Sparkle

Korudo Daio said:
Considering Mickey said the word before what's-his-face had even touched the ground after falling a relatively short distance, chances are he says the word pretty damn fast. "Stopza!", and then Twilight's frozen.
Besides, with speed equalized, there's nothing saying Mickey couldn't even just react to and dodge Twilight's horn beam *while saying* Stopza, if it really came down to it. The beam isn't particularly large.
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not really, he started saying it the moment he jumped and it takes time for gravity to take efffect, and with speed equal she just uses a higher range attack while mickeys time stop is barely a few dozins meters
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Alicorn Twily's range: Far greater than a few dozen meters.
Mickey's range (with magic): Planetary.
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hers is thousent of kilometers and mickeys TIMESTOP is a few dozin meters, not all his magic
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Thousands of kilometers with all alicorn magic.

All Alicorn Twily =/= Alicorn Twily, two totally different forms.
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Alicorn Twily is on par with Starswirl, who moved the Sun in the past
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Thousands of kilometers with all alicorn magic.
All Alicorn Twily =/= Alicorn Twily, two totally different forms.
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still and entire town off aoe against ac few dozins meters
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Go tell that to whoever wrote Twily's page.
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Just because the page doesn't say it, it doesn't mean she doesn't have it. The pages have lots of powers/stats that aren't there. And that goes for pretty much every character on the wiki. There is absolutely no reason to assume she wouldn't have similar range to Starswirl. Especially when this guy taught Luna how to move Stars (plural) Which technically would be interplanetary range.
 
Well, that's not my fault, while we're debating on this wiki, we need to follow what's on the pages, or else there would be no point in even having pages.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Well, that's not my fault, while we're debating on this wiki, we need to follow what's on the pages, or else there would be no point in even having pages.
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my point still stands, and it litiraly says Likely far greater. so it doesent state otherwise, and there is proof to say it is higher
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Well, that's not my fault, while we're debating on this wiki, we need to follow what's on the pages, or else there would be no point in even having pages.
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The point of having pages is to provide a reference for stat comparison when having debates. However, they are not perfect, they are not the end all be.

I'm not saying we should not follow them. What I'm saying is that sometimes information is either left out, or false. There is a reason why we have The Content Revision Board.
 
Lightbuster30 said:
The point of having pages is to provide a reference for stat comparison when having debates. However, they are not perfect, they are not the end all be.
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Yes, they are, on this wiki, it has to be there, if it's not on the pages, it can't be used in a fight.
 
Yes, they are, on this wiki, it has to be there, if it's not on the pages, it can't be used in a fight.

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Well, far greater than a few meters <<<< Planetary. The difference is too huge for the "far greater" to make that much of a difference.
 
Lightbuster30 said:
Edited my comment
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying, if you want Twily to have that much range, to to the Content Revision Board, get her range upgraded, than come back here and finish the debate, it's simple.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Well, far greater than a few meters <<<< Planetary. The difference is too huge for the "far greater" to make that much of a difference.
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but the planetary isd only weaker attacks, the time stop is his main advantage here, which is only afew dozins of meters
 
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, if you want Twily to have that much range, to to the Content Revision Board, get her range upgraded, than come back here and finish the debate, it's simple.

Can't. I promised Ant I'd stop making revision threads for MLP.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Good luck dodging this.
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That is literally the exact same mechanic as Mickey's time stop. She yelled stop, and froze everyone in her vicinity in an expanding radius. If that's the case, then this match is inconclusive, because it's a matter of who can say "Stop/Stopza" faster.

If Mickey says it first, Twilight gets erased. If Twilight says it first, Mickey gets AP-stomped.
 
Korudo Daio said:
That is literally the exact same mechanic as Mickey's time stop. She yelled stop, and froze everyone in her vicinity in an expanding radius. If that's the case, then this match is inconclusive, because it's a matter of who can say "Stop/Stopza" faster.

If Mickey says it first, Twilight gets erased. If Twilight says it first, Mickey gets AP-stomped.
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nope, twilight has better range whit it than mickey does with time stop
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Korudo Daio said:
That is literally the exact same mechanic as Mickey's time stop. She yelled stop, and froze everyone in her vicinity in an expanding radius. If that's the case, then this match is inconclusive, because it's a matter of who can say "Stop/Stopza" faster.

If Mickey says it first, Twilight gets erased. If Twilight says it first, Mickey gets AP-stomped.
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nope, twilight has better range whit it than mickey does with time stop
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Show me proof. Twilight's range in the video Paulo posted seemed to indicate a similar range--possibly even a lesser one, judging by the diameter of the sphere Mickey produced compared to the relative height of the ponies/their surroundings.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
She doesn't need to say "stop", proven when she uses it once again and says "freeze" instead of "stop".
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A similar word is clearly part of it, though, or else there'd be evidence of her using it without saying anything at all.


And even then, it clearly says on her profile that it only prevents them from moving, not from talking--meaning Mickey can still use Time Stop and some of his other magic, making this battle inconclusive.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Why would the name of a spell randomly change?
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The name of the spell isn't "stop" or "freeze" is it? The word is just a catalyst for the Want It, Need It spell, or whatever, isn't it? She clearly requires more than just pointing her horn--her horn only starts to glow when she starts speaking, and that also implies a slight charge time. Mickey requires none of that for his Time Stop spell--only the word "Stopza".
 
Korudo Daio said:
The name of the spell isn't "stop" or "freeze" is it? The word is just a catalyst for the Want It, Need It spell, or whatever, isn't it? She clearly requires more than just pointing her horn--her horn only starts to glow when she starts speaking, and that also implies a slight charge time. Mickey requires none of that for his Time Stop spell--only the word "Stopza".
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but lots of her magic doesent need incantation, she trasmutes whitout even wanting it
 
>Twily freezes him.

>Mickey can still talk, so, he freezes her.

>They're both frozen for some seconds.

>Mickey's time stop loses it's effect, since it only lasts a limited amount of time.

>Mickey's still frozen.

>Twilight one-shots.
 
Also, I was wondering, why does range even matter? By SBA, they start within each other's range, and if they try to take to leave this range instead of starting the fight by attacking, the other attacks first and they lose.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Also, I was wondering, why does range even matter? By SBA, they start within each other's range, and if they try to take to leave this range instead of starting the fight by attacking, the other attacks first and they lose.
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by SBA they start 4 km away from each other
 
"Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers."
 
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