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Alright, I'm not sure how well this will turn out, but I've gotta get it off my mind
Currently on the wiki, we have two Michael Myers profiles. One for the original timelines and another for Rob Zombie's versions. Seems fine enough, but I've been thinking that it may be best for the Thorn Timeline, the H20 Timeline, and Green Timeline to have their own pages. Now, I know this seems really unnecessary (especially given how much effort was put into Michael's pages in the past thanks to Qawsed), but let me explain why I feel this is necessary:
A) In terms of scaling, some rework is definitely needed. "Just as strong as, if not stronger than before" doesn't quite work as well as it used to due to the difference in ratings (9-C and 9-B) as well as how a few feats and justifications require reworking. For example, crushing a human skull is no longer 9-B. Other feats, such as slamming on a windshield hard enough to crack it, shouldn't be referenced to the shattering windshield calc value (Wall level) as that isn't applicable due to how the feat is performed.
B) A lot less page clutter would come out of this revision. Given this page has different timelines with notable enough differences, the tabbers for pictures and abilities can be quite overwhelming. Especially for those who haven't quite grasped how these timeline divergences work.
C) Giving each Michael a dedicated page means more effort can be put into describing aspects such as his intelligence, biography, feats, and so forth. Giving the different natures of each iteration, it would be nice to expand on each one without having to risk making a single page more busy looking and harder to read.
You may be thinking "but isn't putting what is essentially the same information (certain stats and abilities) that applies to all of them across three pages redundant?". No, actually. We already do that with a number of different Goku pages. By all accounts, Michael isn't really that different.
So, how would this look in practice? To provide some examples, I'll show what the AP and durability sections for each Michael would look like as well as how keys would come into play:
Thorn Michael
AP
Wall level (With minimal effort, could toss a man through the air and into an electrical power plant, hard enough to damage and short circuit it. Shattered a wooden cabinet to pieces after rushing into a room, which requires at least this much energy. Splintered a wooden door into pieces. Threw Loomis into a door, destroying it. Punched through John Strode's body before proceeding to slam him into a circuit box, damaging it. Casually broke wooden rails after throwing Loomis into them)
Durability
Wall level (Survived being shot six times and falling off of a two-story balcony. Survived a major gas explosion that blew apart an entire room; although, he collapsed shortly after. Took an onslaught of heavy weapons. Left unscratched from several vehicular accidents, all of which generate this much energy at the very least. Managed to survive several house explosions)
H20 Michael
AP
Wall level (Walked through a wooden door with ease, which requires this much energy. Tore open a wooden door with his knife. Sent Freddie flying across a room with a single hand, destroying wooden shelves in the process)
Durability
Wall level (Survived being shot six times and falling off of a two-story balcony. Survived a major gas explosion that blew apart an entire room; although, he collapsed shortly after. Survived being shocked and lit on fire)
Green Michael
AP
At least Street level (Heavily cracked a car door just by slapping it. Unearthed Judith Myers' tombstone. Punched a hole through a wooden door, which would require this much energy. Broke down a closet door over time. Easily overpowered a police officer) | Wall level (Stronger than before. Kicked down a police partition with minimal effort)
Durability
Wall level (Survived being shot six times and falling off of a two-story balcony) | Wall level (More durable than before. Survived a police cruiser ramming into him, which would mean taking this much energy, albeit being rendered unconscious for some time. Endured an entire lynching from a crazed mob with pipes and bats. Had no trouble escaping Laurie's home and it was burning, surviving after standing at the origin of the fire for some time)
Key: 1978 | 2018
The overlapping similarity with these keys I've presented is the relation to that first Halloween (and Halloween II if you're not Green Michael). My proposals for what these pages would be called is pretty simple:
Michael Myers (Thorn Timeline): Halloween - Halloween II - Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers - Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers - Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Michael Myers (H20 Timeline): Halloween - Halloween II - Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - Halloween: Resurrection
Michael Myers (Green Timeline): Halloween - Halloween (2018) - Halloween Kills - Halloween Ends
All of this feels so cursed to write out, I won't lie. Anyhow, these are my general proposals for how to make it so Michael's stats, as well as future matchups on the forum are made more comprehensible for users
UPDATE:
As suggests by Hellbeast, Thorn and H20 can simply be Wall level due to since it wouldn’t be too necessary to make the first two movies of their timelines separate keys. Because of this, any wall level durability feats I listed in the Halloween-Halloween II keys would be moved over the general rating justifications. Only Green Michael would require keys. I've adjusted my proposals above
Thoughts?
Currently on the wiki, we have two Michael Myers profiles. One for the original timelines and another for Rob Zombie's versions. Seems fine enough, but I've been thinking that it may be best for the Thorn Timeline, the H20 Timeline, and Green Timeline to have their own pages. Now, I know this seems really unnecessary (especially given how much effort was put into Michael's pages in the past thanks to Qawsed), but let me explain why I feel this is necessary:
A) In terms of scaling, some rework is definitely needed. "Just as strong as, if not stronger than before" doesn't quite work as well as it used to due to the difference in ratings (9-C and 9-B) as well as how a few feats and justifications require reworking. For example, crushing a human skull is no longer 9-B. Other feats, such as slamming on a windshield hard enough to crack it, shouldn't be referenced to the shattering windshield calc value (Wall level) as that isn't applicable due to how the feat is performed.
B) A lot less page clutter would come out of this revision. Given this page has different timelines with notable enough differences, the tabbers for pictures and abilities can be quite overwhelming. Especially for those who haven't quite grasped how these timeline divergences work.
C) Giving each Michael a dedicated page means more effort can be put into describing aspects such as his intelligence, biography, feats, and so forth. Giving the different natures of each iteration, it would be nice to expand on each one without having to risk making a single page more busy looking and harder to read.
You may be thinking "but isn't putting what is essentially the same information (certain stats and abilities) that applies to all of them across three pages redundant?". No, actually. We already do that with a number of different Goku pages. By all accounts, Michael isn't really that different.
So, how would this look in practice? To provide some examples, I'll show what the AP and durability sections for each Michael would look like as well as how keys would come into play:
Thorn Michael
AP
Wall level (With minimal effort, could toss a man through the air and into an electrical power plant, hard enough to damage and short circuit it. Shattered a wooden cabinet to pieces after rushing into a room, which requires at least this much energy. Splintered a wooden door into pieces. Threw Loomis into a door, destroying it. Punched through John Strode's body before proceeding to slam him into a circuit box, damaging it. Casually broke wooden rails after throwing Loomis into them)
Durability
Wall level (Survived being shot six times and falling off of a two-story balcony. Survived a major gas explosion that blew apart an entire room; although, he collapsed shortly after. Took an onslaught of heavy weapons. Left unscratched from several vehicular accidents, all of which generate this much energy at the very least. Managed to survive several house explosions)
H20 Michael
AP
Wall level (Walked through a wooden door with ease, which requires this much energy. Tore open a wooden door with his knife. Sent Freddie flying across a room with a single hand, destroying wooden shelves in the process)
Durability
Wall level (Survived being shot six times and falling off of a two-story balcony. Survived a major gas explosion that blew apart an entire room; although, he collapsed shortly after. Survived being shocked and lit on fire)
Green Michael
AP
At least Street level (Heavily cracked a car door just by slapping it. Unearthed Judith Myers' tombstone. Punched a hole through a wooden door, which would require this much energy. Broke down a closet door over time. Easily overpowered a police officer) | Wall level (Stronger than before. Kicked down a police partition with minimal effort)
Durability
Wall level (Survived being shot six times and falling off of a two-story balcony) | Wall level (More durable than before. Survived a police cruiser ramming into him, which would mean taking this much energy, albeit being rendered unconscious for some time. Endured an entire lynching from a crazed mob with pipes and bats. Had no trouble escaping Laurie's home and it was burning, surviving after standing at the origin of the fire for some time)
Key: 1978 | 2018
The overlapping similarity with these keys I've presented is the relation to that first Halloween (and Halloween II if you're not Green Michael). My proposals for what these pages would be called is pretty simple:
Michael Myers (Thorn Timeline): Halloween - Halloween II - Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers - Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers - Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Michael Myers (H20 Timeline): Halloween - Halloween II - Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - Halloween: Resurrection
Michael Myers (Green Timeline): Halloween - Halloween (2018) - Halloween Kills - Halloween Ends
All of this feels so cursed to write out, I won't lie. Anyhow, these are my general proposals for how to make it so Michael's stats, as well as future matchups on the forum are made more comprehensible for users
UPDATE:
As suggests by Hellbeast, Thorn and H20 can simply be Wall level due to since it wouldn’t be too necessary to make the first two movies of their timelines separate keys. Because of this, any wall level durability feats I listed in the Halloween-Halloween II keys would be moved over the general rating justifications. Only Green Michael would require keys. I've adjusted my proposals above
Thoughts?
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