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Also don’t say “I’ve noticed x about you” to me Damage. I have a lot I could say about what I’ve noticed about you and MHA crts. Leave personal talk out of this.
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Stop putting words in my mouth and I'll agree to that.Also don’t say “I’ve noticed x about you” to me Damage. I have a lot I could say about what I’ve noticed about you and MHA crts. Leave personal talk out of this.
I’m not putting words in your mouth I’m repeating what you’re saying and you’re not liking that I do it. Just cause you say I am doing something doesn’t mean I am. That’s a childish argument to be petty.Stop putting words in my mouth and I'll agree to that.
Why did you edit and not just make a new post.Every time I make a slightly negative comment about MHA characters or the scaling, you or others on these threads are like "Oh, so you want to downgrade the cast to 9-B, huh?"
I'm sick of it now.
I already said I don't care where the ratings end up now up above. I'm just addressing specific posts I see that are wrong or are being directed towards me.
No, I do not believe Bakugo should be 9-B. No, I do not think he should scale fully to his explosions. I think what should actually be done isn't compatable with our system in its present state.If you want to play this game, let’s play then.
Do you believe that Bakugo should be 9-B and not scale to his explosions.
I don't like spamming the thread with additional posts, but sometimes I realize I have something extra to say so I try to edit the original post ideally before the other person can see it. Doesn't always work out.Why did you edit and not just make a new post.
And that’s because you advocate for that literally every single time someone brings up the current scaling.
You don’t offer any new scaling or answer, you just say to remove whatever scaling we’re attempting to propose and not do anything else. We’re trying to fix multiple problems not just one with the ratings. You’re the one who somehow can’t see that and only sees the ratings.
Then I’ll drop the argumentI think Damage is just saying that's his perspective, but not actually what we usually go in the wiki, referring to the third law scaling to durability.
No, Bakugo can increase the force of his explosions the same way you and I can increase the force of a punch. Doesn’t mean when I punch someone I’m not trying if I don’t hit so hard I hurt myself or tear a muscle.
You'd be arguing against facts, no matter which way you look at it.
Small question and correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t two Heroes scale to UA Beginnings Bakugou? Also the 10 tons feat isn’t on the profile so it should probably be put there if it’s acceptedSorry, seems like a missed a lot. Something about Bakugo's explosion not being the right size?
Attack Potency: "The attack potency depends on the energy output of a single attack, not the area of effect of the attack." If Bakugo's smaller explosions have reason to hurt High 8-C level characters, such as himself and 8% Izuku. Then that means his smaller explosions due indeed scale. Just to a lower results.
Base Izuku lacks "feats", but the scaling he does have points to him being High 8-C as well.
Bakugo's throw is enhanced by his explosion, meaning it is superior to his normal strength output. Izuku can harm Todoroki with a headbutt, and the attack is shown to make him shake from the impact as well. Base Izuku very clearly knocks the wind out of Bakugo. He even goes "URK...!!!"
Saying he might not actually be hurt is just speculation. His reaction to the attack means he is hurt, unless we have reason to believe otherwise.
8-C feat from a 14 year old Bakugo, High 8-C feat for Bakugo in the festival, High 8-C+ feat for Bakugo in the exam (Bakugo can withstand explosions strong enough to destroy his gauntlets, which is actually small in size), 5% Izuku having a High 8-C dura feat, another 5% dura feat at High 8-C, High 8-C+ feat for Bakugo in Heroes Rising, and one more High 8-C+ feat for Bakugo in Two Heroes.
Really? I was thinking there was more. Is @Andytrenom alright with this? I know he mentioned he may not agree with Bakugo's rating. But if that is a future issue or something else, I guess we can save it for later if he wants. Just want to make sure we aren't ending anything prematurely.With several staff members and users in agreement, I think we should be able to apply this.
Thar feat is for his absolute strongest explosions (He ends up holding his hand in pain), at best it would be supporting rating for his Howitzer which scales to something higher. However we aren't really using it, I was just bringing it up to show the High 8-C consistently for the verse as a whole.Small question and correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t two Heroes scale to UA Beginnings Bakugou? Also the 10 tons feat isn’t on the profile so it should probably be put there if it’s acceptedI almost made the mistake of thinking we were gonna scale that to 5%
Oh Ok (ignore me then, Me Dumb)Thar feat is for his absolute strongest explosions (He ends up holding his hand in pain), at best it would be supporting rating for his Howitzer which scales to something higher. However we aren't really using it, I was just bringing it up to show the High 8-C consistently for the verse as a whole.
I don't think Bakugou's normal explosions should scale to the last one he used again Ochako. Not just because it's bigger but because it hurts his hand to a greater extent implying it's a cut above the rest and completely nullified an attack that Ochako thought would take him outReally? I was thinking there was more. Is @Andytrenom alright with this? I know he mentioned he may not agree with Bakugo's rating. But if that is a future issue or something else, I guess we can save it for later if he wants. Just want to make sure we aren't ending anything prematurely.
I don't mind writing a change for that, actually it'd probably help with the scaling about his smaller blast too. Since we can separate them more clearly.I don't think Bakugou's normal explosions should scale to the last one he used again Ochako. Not just because it's bigger but because it hurts his hand to a greater extent implying it's a cut above the rest and completely nullified an attack that Ochako thought would take him out
I will let other people decide if this should be saved for later
Probably higher I assumeI have a question, for Deku's Tier section, should it be "High 8-C, High 8-C with 8%" or "High 8-C, higher with 8%"? I'm asking this because in the Attack Potency section it's written as "Large Building level, Large Building level+ with 8%".
It would be this.High 8-C, higher with 8%
This would be the correct notation. Large Building level+ is not it's own tier, but is simply the average of the low and high ends of High 8-C.High 8-C, higher with 8%
Small QuestionI don't mind writing a change for that, actually it'd probably help with the scaling about his smaller blast too. Since we can separate them more clearly.
A slight downgrade, but Bakugo's physical will be scaling to harming Base Izuku and taking hits from him. Since the big blast he did seem to hurt his hands, him scaling to a lesser value for his durability would make sense. Would this be better in this case?
His smaller explosions would be scaling to Base Deku, while his bigger blast which hurts his hands will stay their current ratings. Since his fight with Izuku happened after the U.A. Beginning Saga, and he was stated to have gotten stronger. He shouldn't really have those feats in his first key. So I put them in his second key.
and we're told he didn't hold back
That is not what I fully think. If it was I'd say Uraraka would be 5 Tons, but I'm only saying she scales to 2.7 Tons. So yes he is still holding back.This is the part I don't agree with in your interpretation.
You take "Bakugo isn't holding back" to mean "Bakugo isn't holding back his AP". And that's what I don't think is right here.
And him holding back hundreds of times is contradicted in the series. When his smaller blast can harm High 8-C characters such as himself and Base Izuku.
And it seems I can't make you think otherwise. Of course I agree that not every single small blast would be High 8-C.Personally, I just wouldn't assume that this makes every smaller blast automatically High 8-C as well.
I get what you're saying, but there are differences that make these feats distinct enough and be subjected to their individual, contextual scrutiny. Especially with how they are calculated. Say for example:The attack being an explosion isn't any different, since both of those value relies on the size of something.
<<Calculating a structured destroyed by a punch>> is fundamentally different from <<calculating the size of an explosion, and through the formula rooted from scientific principles, a yield is acquired.>>We calculate that a punch destroyed a building or something, meaning that character has whatever AP right? But that character punches another character, who ends up flying into a wall but doesn't even break through the wall.
Well yes, you missed the point. The issue is Izuku not relying on his High 8-C base striking strength just like how he does with his 5%, which is supposed to be a small increase from his base.A judo throw is stronger than a punch yes. But I don't see why him doing that on people like Bakugo, and those weaker than him like Shinso means much. Especially when he headbutt Todoroki hard enough to send him flying and had him shaking from the impact.
As someone working on a 6-B verse that barely has any 6-B feats, I understand and relate.Of course I understand the concerns. And I feel somewhat bad that I can't do anything to alleviate those concerns, but I like to think I'm doing the best I currently can. I'm just glad to hear that what I've placed down is understandable and even logical in some places.