Mha CRT

[KashinKojiiiiii]

The downplaying of mha speed and attack potency/destructive capacity is disgusting tbh. Overclock is easily hypersonic+ with him using his quirk casually, in his fight of flight mode where he gets multiple dozens of times faster he can easily be scaled to high hypersonic - MHS. In the canon heroes rising movie nine is literally seen encasing himself in a lightning aura to enhance his speed so he can keep up with Bakugou and deku. He’s MHS+ easily you guys even have it on his wiki page that he’s mhs+ so the fact that doesn’t scale to 100% full cowl deku and Bakugou is funny. In that same movie it’s stated nine would destroy nabu island as well as the island 1-A was on to fight nine. He’s easily island level. Endeavor is easily above low 7-B jus off of the feat from hell’s curtain which covered the whole area of Shigaraki. If you remember that same area was a mountain range(Gunga Mountain Villa). Easily mountain level-multi mountain range. If I come off toxic my fault.

 

[sanicspood]

tbh. i don actually agree that the speed is iffy on here, there own scans could make them higher then they already should be

 

[KingTempest]

Got any calcs?

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

MHS+ and endeavor engulfing a mountain range might be something but nabu is a very small island and he was destroying it over time too I think it was calced at like city level or lower I dont remember

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Overclock is easily hypersonic+ with him using his quirk casually

Can you prove this with a calculation or...?
The only Overclock calculations have gotten Hypersonic, and these were no casual feats, or at least not high enough into HS to upscale to HS+.

in his fight of flight mode where he gets multiple dozens of times faster he can easily be scaled to high hypersonic - MHS.

No, just High Hypersonic. This has been accepted, it just is not listed on his or Six's pages. I assume because they've never been in this flight or fight mode, which is wrong because Six was on emergency mode while listening to the sped-up tape recording Iwao made.

In the canon heroes rising movie nine is literally seen encasing himself in a lightning aura to enhance his speed so he can keep up with Bakugou and deku.

Nine never did that. Even then, how does that make him Massively Hypersonic+? If I cover myself in an aura of light, am I lightspeed now?

He’s MHS+ easily you guys even have it on his wiki page that he’s mhs+ so the fact that doesn’t scale to 100% full cowl deku and Bakugou is funny.

Yes, Massively Hypersonic+ "attack speed with lightning".

In that same movie it’s stated nine would destroy nabu island as well as the island 1-A was on to fight nine. He’s easily island level.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Endeavor is easily above low 7-B jus off of the feat from hell’s curtain which covered the whole area of Shigaraki. If you remember that same area was a mountain range(Gunga Mountain Villa). Easily mountain level-multi mountain range.

Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[PrinceofPein]

But somehow both deku and byakugo were amazed by a sonic feat from endeavor 15 chapters back
Manga >>>>> movie (I doubt the movie is canon anyway)

All I see is wank

 

[LordTracer]

Both of the movies have been directly referenced in the manga, so yeah, they’re canon.

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

Can you prove this with a calculation or...?
The only Overclock calculations have gotten Hypersonic, and these were no casual feats, or at least not high enough into HS to upscale to HS+.

No, just High Hypersonic. This has been accepted, it just is not listed on his or Six's pages. I assume because they've never been in this flight or fight mode, which is wrong because Six was on emergency mode while listening to the sped-up tape recording Iwao made.

Nine never did that. Even then, how does that make him Massively Hypersonic+? If I cover myself in an aura of light, am I lightspeed now?

Yes, Massively Hypersonic+ "attack speed with lightning".

Tsk tsk tsk.

Tsk tsk tsk.

I can prove this. Deku in two heroes easily dodged fire from M-16 and m4a1 which shoots bullets at speeds faster than sound he did that at 5%. So we already know deku 5% = > supersonic+ When deku was fighting nine he automatically started at 8%. which IMO should be hypersonic. It’s not a great increase but that should be a boost good enough to get him at hypersonic. Since he’s easily dodging bullets that move at supersonic speeds. At 20% deku is easily hypersonic+ Cuz simple math should put him there this shouldn’t even be a question. For overclock it’s easily hypersonic+ becuz when he was being encased with the officers and guns being shot it wasn’t like he was sweating or anything. He simply activated his quirk and ******* on everything. When your going at a speed where your brain perceives everything as literal standstill even bullets are standing still which again move at supersonic speeds and your not even in your fight or flight mode that amps you dozens of times over Should tell you something... that he’s hypersonic casually with the quirk even then that’s me being generous. Now about nine the man is able to weld lightning from the sky and use it how he wants. After taking the serum when he was on his last legs he was able to cement himself in a lightning aura. Why wouldn’t he be speed amped by his lightning aura? At lightning speed when he’s whole gimmick is lightning manipulation? It’s on the mans wiki page like cmon bro

 

[KingTempest]

I can prove this. Deku in two heroes easily dodged fire from M-16 and m4a1 which shoots bullets at speeds faster than sound he did that at 5%. So we already know deku 5% = > supersonic+ When deku was fighting nine he automatically started at 8%. which IMO should be hypersonic. It’s not a great increase but that should be a boost good enough to get him at hypersonic. Since he’s easily dodging bullets that move at supersonic speeds. At 20% deku is easily hypersonic+ Cuz simple math should put him there this shouldn’t even be a question. For overclock it’s easily hypersonic+ becuz when he was being encased with the officers it wasn’t like he was sweating or anything. He simply activated his quirk and ******* on everything. When your going at a speed where your brain perceives everything as literal standstill even bullets are standing still which again love at supersonic speeds and your not in your fight or flight mode that amps you dozens of times over. Should tell you something... that he’s hypersonic casually with the quirk

Dodging something doesn't make you = to it's speed try again.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I can prove this. Deku in two heroes easily dodged fire from M-16 and m4a1 which shoots bullets at speeds faster than sound he did that at 5%. So we already know deku 5% = > supersonic+

♪ Dooooo the calculations ♪

When deku was fighting nine he automatically started at 8%. which IMO should be hypersonic. It’s not a great increase but that should be a boost good enough to get him at hypersonic.

Yes, a jump from 5% to 8% doubles his speed.

Since he’s easily dodging bullets that move at supersonic speeds. At 20% deku is easily hypersonic+ Cuz simple math should put him there this shouldn’t even be a question.

I think we call this Calc Stacking. I might be wrong though.

For overclock it’s easily hypersonic+ becuz when he was being encased with the officers it wasn’t like he was sweating or anything. He simply activated his quirk and ******* on everything.

Blitzing normal humans is very impressive... to a normal human.

When your going at a speed where your brain perceives everything as literal standstill even bullets are standing still

nowhere has iwao or six ever been stated to perceive the world around them as frozen with overclock
In fact, Overclock is explicitly stated to increase the user's perception of the world to the point where they're faster than most, but never to the point that they view people as frozen in place.

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

But somehow both deku and byakugo were amazed by a sonic feat from endeavor 15 chapters back
Manga >>>>> movie (I doubt the movie is canon anyway)

All I see is wank

What sonic feat? Anything war arc automatically scales to hypersonic-mhs easily and that’s generosity. Aoyama beam is light. Toru hagakure has light manipulation and confirmed it’s light. Becuz she can manipulate light she refracts the beam outwards which is indeed or relatively close to light speed. Light Refraction speed = 299,999.72 something along those lines which is relative to light speed( 97%). Lowballing the least I can give them is mhs literally but that’s a whole diff story

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I can prove this. Deku in two heroes easily dodged fire from M-16 and m4a1 which shoots bullets at speeds faster than sound he did that at 5%. So we already know deku 5% = > supersonic+ When deku was fighting nine he automatically started at 8%. which IMO should be hypersonic.

Someone can dodge lightning and only be around Mach 100-400 try again

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

♪ Dooooo the calculations ♪

Yes, a jump from 5% to 8% doubles his speed.

I think we call this Calc Stacking. I might be wrong though.

Blitzing normal humans is very impressive... to a normal human.

nowhere has iwao or six ever been stated to perceive the world around them as frozen with overclock
In fact, Overclock is explicitly stated to increase the user's perception of the world to the point where they're faster than most, but never to the point that they view people as frozen in

Someone can dodge lightning and only be around Mach 100-400 try agai

♪ Dooooo the calculations ♪

Yes, a jump from 5% to 8% doubles his speed.

I think we call this Calc Stacking. I might be wrong though.

Blitzing normal humans is very impressive... to a normal human.

nowhere has iwao or six ever been stated to perceive the world around them as frozen with overclock
In fact, Overclock is explicitly stated to increase the user's perception of the world to the point where they're faster than most, but never to the point that they view people as frozen in place.

Your not saying anything. His quirk enhances his perception to the point where the world literally looks standstill. In order to do such task I’d assume you’d need to have a speed above hypersonic at the very least and seeing as he had literally bullets that move faster than sound seem standstill points that out. Whatever he perceives he moves as fast as.

 

[Andytrenom]

We don't use linear multipliers for Izuku's different percentages, he needs his own speed feats or scaling.

our AP boundaries are also fixed ranges, in contrast to the multitude of islands or mountains that exist, along with the various ways of destroying them, so someone being able to destroy them doesn't automatically count as island or mountain level

Covering yourself with lightning aura absolutely does not make you MHS+ speed. Lightning itself moves that fast but it does not have the property of accelerating other objects to that speed

 

[sanicspood]

"Go back to that chp my friend what we see is literally everyone frozen. It’s not like it’s stated that they’re moving jus very slowly no. It’s stated he"

that doesn't answer his question

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

Someone can dodge lightning and only be around Mach 100-400 try

We don't use linear multipliers for Izuku's different percentages, he needs his own speed feats or scaling.

our AP boundaries are also fixed ranges, in contrast to the multitude of islands or mountains that exist, along with the various ways of destroying them, so someone being able to destroy them doesn't automatically count as island or mountain level

Covering yourself with lightning aura absolutely does not make you MHS+ speed. Lightning itself moves that fast but it does not have the property of accelerating other objects to that speed

The way nine uses his quirk literally gives him that speed amp. Lightning user gives himself lightning aura after taking a serum that lets you use your quirks to their max potential. On top of that you had me combine the lightning with his lasers, deku and Bakugou was dodging all of that

 

[KingTempest]

The way nine uses his quirk literally gives him that speed amp. Lightning user gives himself lightning aura after taking a serum that lets you use your quirks to their max potential. On top of that you had me combine the lightning with his lasers, deku and Bakugou was dodging all of that

We have standards for lightspeed lasers. These lasers don't follow any of them.
Covering yourself with a material ≠ moving as fast as the material.

Please try again.

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

"Go back to that chp my friend what we see is literally everyone frozen. It’s not like it’s stated that they’re moving jus very slowly no. It’s stated he"

that doesn't answer his question

It literally does answer his question. He brung up what his quirk does like that discredits anything I said. Then he also said that they were depicted as moving when in the chp they were are all stationary

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

We have standards for lightspeed lasers. These lasers don't follow any of them.
Covering yourself with a material ≠ moving as fast as the material.

Please try again.

Okay that’s all you had to say is you had standards. It doesn’t make your standards right ofc lol , Sometimes vsbattle wiki makes sense other times they don’t. Multiple statements that prove aoyamas beam is light. It’s brung up multiple times even during before the war arc but no it’s not light

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Okay that’s all you had to say is you had standards. It doesn’t make your standards right ofc lol

Then make another Crt and debunk those laser and lightning standards to mean if you fuse yourself with the material your that fast

 

[KingTempest]

Okay that’s all you had to say is you had standards. It doesn’t make your standards right ofc lol , Sometimes vsbattle wiki makes sense other times they don’t. Multiple statements that prove aoyamas beam is light. It’s brung up multiple times even during before the war arc but no it’s not light

You're arguing for the wiki to implement something but you won't follow the wiki's standards.
If you don't agree with the wiki's standards, exit the wiki.

Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats

"Light" or "Laser" dodging is a fairly common trope seen in fiction and often the center of debate regarding characters' speeds, given that light is the fastest known thing in the real universe. This article will set forth the standards of this wiki in determining what is considered a real...

vsbattles.fandom.com

These are not my standards, these are the wiki's standards.

 

[Andytrenom]

Can you guys stop with the "try again" over and over, it just comes off as smug and doesn't help with a mature discussion

 

[sanicspood]

lol

 

[manu_zarri]

wait, dosen't theard without calcs for not certain feats get instantly refuted?

 

[Andytrenom]

Also even ignoring wiki standards, being powered by lightning doesn't make you lightning speed. That's like saying being powered by solar energy makes you lightspeed

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Can you guys stop with the "try again" over and over, it just comes off as smug and doesn't help with a mature discussion

Ok fine

 

[KingTempest]

I apologize for the "try again" remarks, but I'll say this again.

The wiki has standards. You can not ignore the wiki's standards and get away with upgrades.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I apologize for the "try again" remarks, but I'll say this again.

The wiki has standards. You can not ignore the wiki's standards and get away with upgrades.

Especially upgrades with no calcs that are purely based on what many call “wank”

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

Then make another Crt and debunk those laser and lightning standards to mean if you fuse yourself with the material your that

You're arguing for the wiki to implement something but you won't follow the wiki's standards.
If you don't agree with the wiki's standards, exit the wiki.

Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats

"Light" or "Laser" dodging is a fairly common trope seen in fiction and often the center of debate regarding characters' speeds, given that light is the fastest known thing in the real universe. This article will set forth the standards of this wiki in determining what is considered a real...

vsbattles.fandom.com

These are not my standards, these are the wiki's standards.

Lmaoo As soon as I clicked that link it gave me multiple reasons why aoyamas beam is light lmaoo. It says if it reflects off material such as non-magical mirrors aoyamas costume is literally for that stated in the novel. He uses the mirrors on his costume for navel buffet. The beam is Called light by reliable sources for ex: thirteen who’s quirk is literally black hole she says out her mouth “I can asorb light also” which his beam is literally. Or when the databook calls it light or when toru hagakure who’s power is to manipulate light calls it light. It says when it doesn’t meet the criteria is when it bends, but if it can be explained such as refracting. Only time it moved from a str8 line was when toru was refracting it via her body which again when being refracted is closely relative to the speed of light when being sent outwards from refraction.

 

[manu_zarri]

can we just make those calcs?

 

[KingTempest]

Lmaoo As soon as I clicked that link it gave me multiple reasons why aoyamas beam is light lmaoo. It says if it reflects off material such as non-magical mirrors aoyamas costume is literally for that stated in the novel. He uses the mirrors on his costume for navel buffet. The beam is Called light by reliable sources for ex: thirteen who’s quirk is literally black hole she says I can asorb your light beam literally. Or when the databook calls it light or when toru hagakure who’s power is to manipulate light calls it light. Only time it moved from a str8 line was when toru was refracting it which again moved closely relative to the speed of light

It never says "calling it light" is a requirement. It says "stated to be made out of light".

And it bent, which is one of the biggest antifeats for light ever.

No calcs, it's not getting accepted.

And this is an outlier in itself.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

It never says "calling it light" is a requirement. It says "stated to be made out of light".

And it bent, which is one of the biggest antifeats for light ever.

No calcs, it's not getting accepted.

And this is an outlier in itself.

Also Light speed MHA makes no sense when you realize Deku and Bakugo needed Kaminari to absorb Nines lightning so it couldn’t hit them because they knew it could blitz them

Lightning would legit get blitzed by Ftl characters or be easily reacted to if it was just ftl reactions

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

Lmaoo As soon as I clicked that link it gave me multiple reasons why aoyamas beam is light lmaoo. It says if it reflects off material such as non-magical mirrors aoyamas costume is literally for that stated in the novel. He uses the mirrors on his costume for navel buffet. The beam is Called light by reliable sources for ex: thirteen who’s quirk is literally black hole she says out her mouth “I can asorb light also” the which is his beam literally. Or when the databook calls it light or when toru hagakure who’s power is to manipulate light calls it light. It says when it doesn’t meet the criteria is when it bends, but if it meets criteria such as refracting. Only time it moved from a str8 line was when toru was refracting it via her body which again when being refracted closely relative to the speed of light

It never says "calling it light" is a requirement. It says "stated to be made out of light".

And it bent, which is one of the biggest antifeats for light ever.

No calcs, it's not getting accepted.

And this is an outlier in itself.

Lmaoo im done fandom is soo cute. I literally said thirteen calls it light and then absorbs it with her quirk which is a black hole. If u didn’t kno Black holes > light. Which was the whole purpose of the fight during that training arc. It was to have the students up against there natural opposite

 

[sanicspood]

the black hole girls quirk hardly works like a real black hole

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Lmaoo im done fandom is soo cute. I literally said thirteen calls it light and then absorbs it with her quirk which is a black hole. If u didn’t kno Black holes > light. Which was the whole purpose of the fight during that training arc. It was to have the students up against there natural opposite

Just because the quirk is called black hole doesn’t make it a real black hole
It barely works like a real one

Ok I am done here we’re going in circles and not going anywhere I’ll wait and see what others say

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

Also Light speed MHA makes no sense when you realize Deku and Bakugo needed Kaminari to absorb Nines lightning so it couldn’t hit them because they knew it could blitz them

Lightning would legit get blitzed by Ftl characters or be easily reacted to if it was just ftl reactI believe that was PIS

the black hole girls quirk hardly works like a real black hole

Hardly? Becuz it doesn’t suck up stars

Just because the quirk is called black hole doesn’t make it a real black hole
It barely works like a real one

Ok I am done here we’re going in circles and not going anywhere I’ll wait and see what others say

only reason you say this is becuz it’s not doing anything above what you actually know as a blackhole which is swallowing stars, planets etc. it can be a literal blackhole that works overtime which is exactly how thirteen quirk works, she says explicitly if she doesnt turn off her quirk after a certain amount of time it’ll get horrible. In her verse she stated aoyama beam is light end of story.

 

[Andytrenom]

Aoyama's beams aren't considered light because it has physical recoil, destroys things in a way light doesn't and iirc has shown to bend too (might be wrong on this one)

Regardless, even if it is light, characters dodging it would be an outlier

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

the black hole girls quirk hardly works like a real black hole

Aoyama's beams aren't considered light because it has physical recoil, destroys things in a way light doesn't and iirc has shown to bend too (might be wrong on this one)

Regardless, even if it is light, characters dodging it would be an outlier

No it wouldn’t be a outlier it would mean the verse is jus faster than ppl think it is. One piece has relativistic speeds but still see marines as a threat. Ben beckman literally had kizaru on a leash couldn’t move and he only had a gun pointed at him so i ion wanna here anything related to guns pls.

 

[sanicspood]

Hardly? Becuz it doesn’t suck up stars

the fact that it can bearly suck up common objects around her lmfao. u really comparing that to a real black hole?

 

[KashinKojiiiiii]

That’s another

the fact that it can bearly suck up common objects around her lmfao. u really comparing that to a real black hole?

its a black hole that’s weaker than what a regular black hole can do. I don’t understand how u guys have a hard time understanding this? Becuz it doesn’t destroy stars etc it’s not a black hole? but one of the other properties it does do like a real black hole is looked down upon which is absorb light. Which she states