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Meta Knight vs. Kirito
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Right so what else is going on-
Sweet Merciful Mother of Downplay........
Sweet Merciful Mother of Downplay........
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Honestly, just look anywhere stuff like "what happens if Humans were in space" and they'll all tell the same thing.
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Cool.
We're in fiction. The statements from (who I believe is) Mr. Green do in fact acknowledge that fiction is wonky. That said, in Kirito's own fiction, he froze something that was enduring -270 C. On Earth, he is able to do so more easily.
The point is moreso that this being survived -270 C and was unaffected, but could not withstand Kirito's own coldness from his ice. Lacking the effect of freezing due to the locale is a side detail, I believe.
We're in fiction. The statements from (who I believe is) Mr. Green do in fact acknowledge that fiction is wonky. That said, in Kirito's own fiction, he froze something that was enduring -270 C. On Earth, he is able to do so more easily.
The point is moreso that this being survived -270 C and was unaffected, but could not withstand Kirito's own coldness from his ice. Lacking the effect of freezing due to the locale is a side detail, I believe.
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Not to mention also fully ignoring that Kirito's power makes the ice and the ice is colder than space.
Unlike in any everyday situation out there, our frame of reference for cold of space in this case for the feat referenced is the edge of the Universe. Edge of the Universe is -270.5┬░C. Kirito makes ice colder than that space.
The cold his power generates would still make the targets experience it on this level even if we ignored everything else based on how it's described and what it's compared to in-verse alone.
Unlike in any everyday situation out there, our frame of reference for cold of space in this case for the feat referenced is the edge of the Universe. Edge of the Universe is -270.5┬░C. Kirito makes ice colder than that space.
The cold his power generates would still make the targets experience it on this level even if we ignored everything else based on how it's described and what it's compared to in-verse alone.
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I wonder if EBF3 Matt would be fair tho
Permission to make this match?
Permission to make this match?
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FateAlbane said:
- Fate short-circuits.
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Way ahead of ya.Kaltias said:
I'll wait for when Grace hits on a few
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- Fate short-circuits.
I know how
"HOW DOES LAVOS'S ACAUSALITY WORK"
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According to Triforce, kirito's ice can't be that cold because then It wouldn't scale to -270.5 C┬░ It seems like surviving space isn't a feat, since there is no thermic conductivity, and even less in the Edge of the universe, so basically freezing the dude was just a casual freeze feat then.
(Wait, do we share our Heat with the electromagnetic waves? Then are we actually Frozen in space?)
(Wait, do we share our Heat with the electromagnetic waves? Then are we actually Frozen in space?)
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Why am I still debating? Just to suffer? Every night I can feel a stomp, a spite. Even the necros... Won't stop hurting. The threads I've lost, the hours I've lost, the posts I've posted. Won't stop hurting. It's like the memes are still there... You feel it too, don't you?Schnee One said:
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...Which was debunked.Kirby71 said:
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I just noticed that Kirito's freeze is based on the coldness of outer space...
That's not how space works, people...
That's not how space works, people...
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@Kep No Kep, his freeze is colder than the Edge of the Universe. The temperature there is -270.5┬░C.
The whole "temperature won't pass from one thing to another" isn't the relevant part.
Just what his ice is stated to be colder than in-verse.
The whole "temperature won't pass from one thing to another" isn't the relevant part.
Just what his ice is stated to be colder than in-verse.
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Based on the context? Yes it is.
His ice is directly stated to be colder than the void of outer space, acknowledging the fact that the creature wandered on the edge of space. Colder than that, which is -270 C.
His ice is colder than that -270 C. Yes? What about this is not how it works?
His ice is directly stated to be colder than the void of outer space, acknowledging the fact that the creature wandered on the edge of space. Colder than that, which is -270 C.
His ice is colder than that -270 C. Yes? What about this is not how it works?
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I don't know Kirby, read the thread
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@Kep
""Release recollection!!"
Blinding light burned the imagepanel stark white.
When the image immediately returned, at its center it was
possible to see several streaks of bluish-white light shooting from
the blade raised by the swordsman and rocketing towards the
Abyssal Horror.
Those lights were as thin as fibers compared to the space beast's
gargantuan form, but when they struck and wrapped around it,
the beast's speed of assault became visibly attenuated. The frantic
motions of its freely wriggling 12 tentacles became stiff. Almost as
if they had frozen.
But that was impossible. The Abyssal Horror was a creature
acclimated to the extremely cold environment of space. It was
impossible to create a chill colder than the temperature of space."
""Release recollection!!"
Blinding light burned the imagepanel stark white.
When the image immediately returned, at its center it was
possible to see several streaks of bluish-white light shooting from
the blade raised by the swordsman and rocketing towards the
Abyssal Horror.
Those lights were as thin as fibers compared to the space beast's
gargantuan form, but when they struck and wrapped around it,
the beast's speed of assault became visibly attenuated. The frantic
motions of its freely wriggling 12 tentacles became stiff. Almost as
if they had frozen.
But that was impossible. The Abyssal Horror was a creature
acclimated to the extremely cold environment of space. It was
impossible to create a chill colder than the temperature of space."
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If his ice is given a direct temperature and compared to something else, then sure. But if it's just based on freezing someone who survived outer space, then that's not remotely how heat distribution works.
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It is. The exact quote is the following:Kepekley23 said:
But that was impossible. The Abyssal Horror was a creature
acclimated to the extremely cold environment of space. It was
impossible to create a chill colder than the temperature of space.
It is directly stated to be colder than the temperature of space. Not just freezing the thing.
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...why were you guys making it sound like it ''wasn't'' a beam of light that freezes on contact and made it sound like it was some sort of telekinetic freezing?
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@Bambu I have a sad Thanos.
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Thank goodness.Kepekley23 said:
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@Kirby Let's go your way.
Kirito's ice is stated to be "colder than space".
That is shown as being capable of freezing something that was once at the edge of the universe. But let's disregard this and say "There would be no change in temperature because it won't pass from one thing to another" (fully ignoring in the process that Fiction never cares about these things otherwise even Kars wouldn't have frozen in Jojo as soon as he left the Earth).
But let's say that doesn't matter and take only in-verse context.
Kirito's ice is, again, "colder than space". The verse also shows and references spaces like the edge of the Universe while simultaneously stating that it "should be impossible to go lower".
Thus, what happens at the edge of the Universe is irrelevant, just the temperature found there as that's what Kirito's cold is superior to. Hence his Freeze is according to the statements and feats, scaling to being more cold than the temperature found at the edge of the Universe which is -270.5┬░C.
Kirito's ice is stated to be "colder than space".
That is shown as being capable of freezing something that was once at the edge of the universe. But let's disregard this and say "There would be no change in temperature because it won't pass from one thing to another" (fully ignoring in the process that Fiction never cares about these things otherwise even Kars wouldn't have frozen in Jojo as soon as he left the Earth).
But let's say that doesn't matter and take only in-verse context.
Kirito's ice is, again, "colder than space". The verse also shows and references spaces like the edge of the Universe while simultaneously stating that it "should be impossible to go lower".
Thus, what happens at the edge of the Universe is irrelevant, just the temperature found there as that's what Kirito's cold is superior to. Hence his Freeze is according to the statements and feats, scaling to being more cold than the temperature found at the edge of the Universe which is -270.5┬░C.
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I see then. If it's directly compared, then yeah, it's valid.
Carry on.
Carry on.
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It isn't vague, at least, not really. It just states that Kirito's ice is freezer than that vacuum. The fact that the writer doesn't understand how space works is irrelevant.
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