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Mereoleona Vermillion (Black Clover) VS Portgas D. Ace (One Piece)
- Thread starter M_Animefan
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speedster352
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Any counters to elemental intang?
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Either Ace takes this or it's incon. I don't think Haki can interact with her body of Mana but at the same time she can't interact with him.
Stefano4444
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Why neither Mereoleona or Ace would be able to physically interact to each other?
Verse equalization should allow both their Non-Physical Interaction to work fine.
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Verse equalization doesn't work like that. They'd need to be similar energy systems to work, and Haki and Magic are anything but similar.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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They need to be similar or have similarities and nothing in the wiki is compatible with haki and DF that i've seen yet
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Is it resistant towards Heat Manipulation? Keep in mind, Ace has a ridiculous heat resistance being able to stand next to Akainu's passive heat Aura which can vaporizing steel without direct application.
Speaking of which that scans states she weak to fire. So now I ask, how hot is her fire? Ace's should scale above lightning to an unfunny degree or possibly Akainu's passive Aura.
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It says water magic is the attribute she is weak to. It only brings up fire after that.
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"She can burn water spells, the the attribute she's weak against.
"And her own attribute.
Seperate statements, she's not weak to fire.
Pointless fight since she has no feats of hitting intangibles, close stomp.
"And her own attribute.
Seperate statements, she's not weak to fire.
Pointless fight since she has no feats of hitting intangibles, close stomp.
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Depends on what type of intangibility and what level (layer'd) that intang is.
From my knowledge of Ace's intang is E.I, based around fire (something that Mereoleona can burn) and its only baseline, so if those previous assumptions are true than Mereoleona should be able to interact with Ace.
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Oh god dimensional layering.
I specifically avoid high-tier threads to not deal with that bullcrap
I specifically avoid high-tier threads to not deal with that bullcrap
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Ace's isn't baseline, it's layered, his heat body is already insanely resistant towards high temperatures. And furthermore, Ace has Haki to ride on granting another resistance to temperature.
Also effecting a Logia requires high levels of Haki, which is something Ace has experience in combating. To effect a Logia in verse one must have the stronger Haki, since why Marco and Vista couldn't harm Akainu despite them having high levels of Buso.
speedster352
He/Him- 17,544
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Wasn't ace killed by akainu because magma is hotter than his fire? Which makes 0 sense tbh
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Than Mereoleona can't interact with him since she can only interact with baseline E.I.
This is honestly a stomp in Ace's favor given she can't interact with him because of his layered intang and his much higher heat resistance/manipulation.
speedster352
He/Him- 17,544
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Can you explain this?
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I thought it was because he made himself tangible to make Akainu unable to reach and melt luffy.
If he was still pure fire then Akainu would have killed Luffy
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Akainu's magma isn't your normal magma. ***** like wayyyy hotter.
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I haven't read One Piece so i can't, sorry.
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This is what I assumed tbh
speedster352
He/Him- 17,544
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So is this match a stomp then or can verse equalization be used?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
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Can't be used tbh, every op vs thread doesn't have verse equal
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Well, I mean… Base Mereo could interact with fire. This Mereo is mana itself, I feel she should be capable of doing so.
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Nada, he had a devil fruit superiority, which let him hurt him without Haki
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Wut
I dropped one piece at timeskip, is this a real thing?
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Thamk
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I also made this match just now lmao, why didn't this appear when I searched it?
