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Meltlilith VS Rimuru

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She doen't also have resistance to abilties Conceptual Manipulation nor Void Manipulation, too.

Don't believe that's getting past Hit Detection, but I'll let you handle that.
 
Conceptual manip resistance comes from authority and considering Altjuna's Authorities she should resist void manip as well and neither get past her no hit detection anyway
 
John985 said:
Most of the god tiers scale to Kama which is universal mind hax. And base gil resist 16.8 billion mind and soul hax coming from Angra Mainyu.
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The profiles don't highlighted universal mind hax but are super vague about what they can resist. I am a firm believer that what are on profiles tends to be more accurate than what are not for versus threads because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences, unless there are supporting scans/evidence.

Thanks for giving a explanation though, @John985 :)
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
She doen't also have resistance to abilties Conceptual Manipulation nor Void Manipulation, too.
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Don't believe that's getting past Hit Detection, but I'll let you handle that.
Again, Invulnerability is Law Hax based so it can be removed by superior Law Hax or Conceptual Hax potency (2-B > Low 2-C )
 
No it can only be removed by superior law hax no idea why you think conceptual hax would work

Also the law hax would have to be above BB which is 8D at the very least high above baseline 4D and possibly 5D
 
We should probably save the dimensional arguments until that thread is done, I think too much speculation is what made Yuuki vs Melt a complete disaster.

Better yet, closing the thread, and coming back here when there's a conclusion there.
 
Paul Frank said:
No it can only be removed by superior law hax no idea why you think conceptual hax would work
Also the law hax would have to be above BB which is 8D at the very least high above baseline 4D and possibly 5D
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Conceptual hax (Type 3 and up) is viewed as superior to Law hax here. There pages were basically interchangeable in the past in the past but now they are not.

I think 8-D was rejected Monarch was not the only evaluating staff who disagrees. Matthew also disagreed.
 
I scratched out the 8D because it was "rejected" but there is still the fact that the potency of BB's lawhax is at the least much further into 4d than Rimuru's stuff is
 
Paul Frank said:
I scratched out the 8D because it was "rejected" but there is still the fact that the potency of BB's lawhax is at the least much further into 4d than Rimuru's stuff is
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Why? 2-B (Rimuru) > Low 2-C (Meltlilith) potency
 
It was rejected that 8D from the Moon Cell equals 1-C in the wiki tiering system. What remains is the fact that it is still superior to 4D level. And 4D level goes from low 2-C to 2-A.
 
8-D gives higher dimensional manip 1-C would come if it scaled to her ap

Also why do we keep putting higher tier characters against Melt when she lacks the range to kill them
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Great, thanks to GL, TSSDK reputation will get more worse
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I honestly don't think so. The match looks to be an unintentional stomp and this is about it.
 
And the response to that thread is: "It is higher dimensions. It's stated to have 8 dimensional space. It's just that those 8 dimensions aren't 1-C. Matt never debunked 8 dimensions, he debunked 1-C."
 
And remind me how does 8D thingy come in anyway. The Mooncell's only 8D feat is 8D wall which doesn't seem to scale to any other abilities. And from what I see in the thread, Rimuru Concept Manip 3 on Melt's Invul, then GGEZ.
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
And the response to that thread is: "It is higher dimensions. It's stated to have 8 dimensional space. It's just that those 8 dimensions aren't 1-C. Matt never debunked 8 dimensions, he debunked 1-C."
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You can't really have both with Dimensional Tiering. It is either 8-D (1-C or 1-C with hax) or not 8-D.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Doesn't matter, we are tired af with that bastard Yuuki vs Melt and this bastard just make Rimuru vs Melt, this will just more worse despite ended stomp
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I do think people who worked on the profiles edits have the right to make the matches they want. Sure there could be a disdain for the match but it should not remove their rights just because some dislike the matches if it follows our Versus Thread Rules and are not Spite Thread. I am certain one's hours of efforts made to improve the related profiles far outweight potential match-up dislikes.
 
In any case, I will contact someone to close the thread since this match is a stomp.
 
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