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That's IF that happens. Will Medaka come back? It's a question of All Fiction vs Destruction at this point. All Fiction will just erase cause and effect and bring her back.DodoNova2 said:Speed Unequal = Zen'o Erase and medaka Lose badly
Erasure? Isn't it just strong hakkai?DMB 1 said:Medaka ain't coming back from a 4D erasure.
Again where is the proof that it's not hakkai? Just destroy all the physical matter withn a universe with hakkai. Also All Fiction is still WAY better than zeno's thingy, he doesn't destroy anything he makes cause and effect nothing, zeno will never truly hit Medaka, the reality where he hits Medaka will be erased.DMB 1 said:Hakai is 3D existence erasure, and it also erases the soul.
Zeno's erasure is capable on the other hand of erasing entire universes, aka a 4D erasure.
STRONG hakkai doe. Existence Erasue would be giving Zeno hax, and stuff was brough back from Zeno's erasure. With existence erasure zeno could have just erased IZ not destroyed the whole universe along with him. He charged up balls of Ki in his hands which leads to believe he "attacked something out of existence". It's not beating All Fiction which will erase both cause and effect getting Medaka back from the hit, why is she back you may ask? Cus she was never hit by zeno.OuterversalRaditz said:If Zeno's erasure was 3D, it wouldn't have killed IZ..
If hakai and Zeno's erasure were equal, it wouldn't nerf the latter, it'd massively buff the former.
Anyway, with speed unequal it's a stomp for Zeno; if speed is equalized, it's a stomp for Medaka
How is it a fact? Kumagawa can just erase the concept of zamasu from the world, he can be 1 with the multiverse for all he cares, he just erases his concept and zamasu is gone without any destruction needed. The fact that he destroyed the universe in the process proves it's just "destruction" not erasure. Medaka will easily come back from that.DMB 1 said:Zamasu had literally become the Universe. It is existence erasure, and it's a fact, do not deny it.
Hakkai is also called existence erasure even though it's not. Becoming the universe, he was becoming 1 with the universe, yeah still erase the concept of zamasu from existence, make it so that zamasu never existed, that's existence erasure, not destruction of the body and soul. Medaka be coming back easy peasy.OuterversalRaditz said:Uh no, he couldn't just erase IZ without erasing the universe because IZ became the universe. Sure, super high end Low 2-C and up hax exist capable of manipulating the universe to the point of like "writing" IZ out of it or making it impossible for him to take any actions but like... assuming that when erasure was shown and stated multiple times is the definition of head cano
Yeah it is still an action All Fiction can erase.DMB 1 said:You can't use 3D causality Manipulation against someone who is one with all space and time, because he is one with the past, present, and future of the universe.
And existence erasure, the majority of the times in fiction destroys both body and soul, and haka isn't an exception.
Yeah ok. Erase ur body and soul. Erase the action and ur body and soul come back. *Medaka doeDodoNova2 said:Just For Info:
- Existance Erasure = Madoka Cant' Resurect and Use All Fiction because EE Erase Your Body/Mind and Souls
- Body Erasure = Madoka can resurect and use AF
This is bloodlusted. Medaka will use All Fiction if it's in her best interest.DodoNova2 said:The problem is that Medaka has never used All Fiction anymore, which says she uses it directly?
In addition, Speed Unequal So Medaka will never have time to react and Use AF
Speed Unequal = Medaka Lose
Reason?Grimreaperofjustice said:stomp zeno's favor