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Mechikabura Upgrades

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The funny thing is they can still use the AP argument because how high they are in the tier lol. Like they are just better
 
JoshSSJGod said:
Now try to work on that speed. MFTL+ is pretty slow for 2-Bs
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They have so many infinite and immeasurable speed feats that were rejected for some reason. I can't even remember why. I remember a while ago it was agreed that the demon realm should grant infinite speed, but for some reason it wasn't applied
 
I will probably re-make a infinite/immeasurable speed thread with SSBXeno and SSJRYU. Edit: Also going to argue for Type 2 or 1 Abstract Existence for Toki-Toki, which would in turn be on Toki-toki absorbed Demigra and Mechikabura
 
I...actually have no major problem for infinite, but it was rejected before as the DBH voids were specifically the reason we made our timeless void standards page.
 
At best Toki would have gotten Abstract Type 3 when it existed, embodying a Concept but not showing feats of resurrecting or being untouchable/lacking form doesn't get you anything.
 
So what should we do here?
 
JoshSSJGod said:
Besides Speed Equalization, he's also Omnipresent. Lol
Omnipresent isn't a speed. Its a state of self.

Ik I'm just going off of the Wiki

While Omnipresence is, strictly speaking, not speed, it is listed as a speed statistic due to behaving in combat similarly to how normal speed would. For example, a being that is omnipresent within 3-D space would win every race against an opponent with normal speed, due to already being at the goal by the time the race starts. In addition, an attack from an omnipresent being is unavoidable with normal speed due to the attack being in every location in the universe at once.
 
@Ant

This can be closed.

Also, no, Toki-Toki embodies time, creates time, manipulates time in every way possible and harming time directly harms toki-toki, so they are going to have ability to affect time itself
 
@Cal

Oh? I haven't had time to keep up with those Abstract revisions. Mind giving me the details on my Message Wall or something?
 
Have the updates been applied? In that case I can close this.
 
What would infinite speed be based on?
 
Okay. So can I close this?
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
Ok, the upgrades are done
Nothing I guess. The revisions were already made and the current discussion is about a future thread. I will close this.
 
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