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After finishing the Echo series, it looks like post-Hawkeye Echo would at least get Statistics Amplification, Enhanced Accuracy, Healing, Memory Manipulation, and limited Power Bestowal by "echoing" the abilities of her ancestors.
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It was originally supposed to be like 8-9 eps but they had to cut a lot out and condense it. That’s why certain episodes have 1 million writers credited.So I just finished Echo and unfortunately I thought it was just alright. It’s insane how much the editing brings everything down, it’s easily the biggest flaw of the show. I was really surprised I got through it in one sitting but I feel as if it was made that way to quickly get the story told as soon as possible. In the 5 episodes it had it was like the show was given no time to breath. Marvel allowing shows to be violent is cool and gives me hope for some future projects but still as a whole I was mostly underwhelmed. Shame too because, just like the past couple of projects, I was rooting for this one to blow me away like Loki S2 did.
Daredevils cameo was cool though icl
Cool to see that it really worked for you, even though I didn't like it as much as you did it's nice to see some positivity on a new MCU project.As someone with Choctaw ancestry, it was definitely emotional seeing that representation. I REALLY liked this series. It’s a 8.5 out of 10 for me and Marvel’s best D+ Show imo.
From “5 Months Later” to the end of 4, it was COOKING!! And Episode 4 easily is the best written content since NWH for me. Loki S2 was great, ESPECIALLY that ending, but “overall”, it was just good. Easily the best “consistent” show.
That said, the first 25 min of 1 and Episode 5 were the only blemishes on this season imo. Episode 5 was wobbly at BEST. Marvel has to get better at ending their shows. I do believe the final fight should’ve ended very differently, but I digress. That is why it’s a 8.5 out of 10.
No one is watching Quantumania, dudeIf you don’t watch everything can you truly call yourself a mcu fan
then your not a true fanNo one is watching Quantumania, dude
I didNo one is watching Quantumania, dude
then your not a true fan
You should probably also change Kingpin's speed ratingI started working on a sandbox to update all the Netflix Marvel characters to 9-A along with making a profile for Echo, any help with justifications (in particular with Echos feats and new powers from her show) would be appreciated:
MCU Street level sandbox
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It's still a WIP, I'm gonna be updating more profiles than just DD, Kingpin and Echo.You should probably also change Kingpin's speed rating
I was actually just thinking will her AP rating change to "At least Small Building level, likely higher" now because of the upgrades?Finally She-Hulk can now scale above the street levelers
Likely higher works best, and some matches prolly won't be removed as she's just gonna be upgraded to a higher calc in 9-AI was actually just thinking will her AP rating change to "At least Small Building level, likely higher" now because of the upgrades?Also will all of her matchups have to be deleted (please say yes)
He does not die Dardevil cameo was short but good she can echo the abilities of her Ancestors sets up Dardevil Born AgainOkay so I'm not interested at all in watching that show so can someone tell me what happens in the end? Does Fisk die in the end? Is the Dardevil cameo good? Does Echo gains new abilities? Does it have any sort of impact over the MCU?
How on earth does it set up SpiderMan 4He does not die Dardevil cameo was short but good she can echo the abilities of her Ancestors sets up Dardevil Born Again and Spider-Man 4
He's going to run for Mayor of New York and outlaw all the vigilantesHow on earth does it set up SpiderMan
We literally don’t even know the plot of SpiderMan 4 how can you say something is going to set it up this early especially when tons of other movies will happen before it which changes the storyHe's going to run for Mayor of New York and outlaw all the vigilantes
Very trueWe literally don’t even know the plot of SpiderMan 4 how can you say something is going to set it up this early especially when tons of other movies will happen before it which changes the story
There's been leaks recently that say this might be the plot of Spider-Man 4, we obviously don't know for sure yet but we may be getting a street level equivalent of Civil WarWe literally don’t even know the plot of SpiderMan 4 how can you say something is going to set it up this early especially when tons of other movies will happen before it which changes the story
tomorrowWhere’s Deadpool 3 trailer
She’s definitely far stronger than 9-A its just that she has no feats that put her above that level yet apart from catching Hulk off guard with a jabShe-Hulk scaling below Captain America is kinda iffy
That is not SM4, that is DD:BA. BA is adapting the Devil's Reign storylineHe's going to run for Mayor of New York and outlaw all the vigilantes
They look good, but Daredevil's senses could use more justification, considering that he impressed Peter with his own sensesI made some more progress on my street level rework blog. DD and Kingpin's reworks are done, I still need to add all the new powers Echo got in her show though. I also started a complete overhaul of Nobu's page since it was really outdated, he might even need a new key since he was stronger in season 2.
The main thing I wanted to ask was how should we go about the piercing damage of Hawkeye and Kate Bishop's arrows because I found two main inconsistencies. Obviously we have Kingpin tanking an arrow, which we justify by saying he was wearing an armour tuxedo, but Echo also tanked an arrow in the chest in episode 4 of Hawkeye. Do the arrows having 8-C piercing damage still make sense or should we change it?
Here's the sandbox so far:
MCU Street level sandbox
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Pretty sure that was only because he didn’t expect a blind random lawyer to be able to do thatconsidering that he impressed Peter with his own senses
Still noteworthy.Pretty sure that was only because he didn’t expect a blind random lawyer to be able to do that
I'm not 100% sure, though the arrow did at least make Echo retreat, and left her with a shoulder wound to get treated in the next episode (granted, she didn't seem hindered after that, though that might be more of a stamina feat for Echo)The main thing I wanted to ask was how should we go about the piercing damage of Hawkeye and Kate Bishop's arrows because I found two main inconsistencies. Obviously we have Kingpin tanking an arrow, which we justify by saying he was wearing an armour tuxedo, but Echo also tanked an arrow in the chest in episode 4 of Hawkeye. Do the arrows having 8-C piercing damage still make sense or should we change it?
I guess then it can stay and Echo is just really resilientI'm not 100% sure, though the arrow did at least make Echo retreat, and left her with a shoulder wound to get treated in the next episode (granted, she didn't seem hindered after that, though that might be more of a stamina feat for Echo)
That seems reasonable enough, as I've yet to find any statements actually mentioning armor stopping the arrow.I was thinking about downgrading Kingpin's armour tuxedo to just be higher instead of Small Building level since Echo similarly survives an arrow to the shoulder, though she's visibly more hurt by it, and the arrow hit Fisk directly hit him in the chest and not the his suit jacket, which the Netflix show established is the armour part. It's not that inconsistent and more of a stamina feat. Thoughts?