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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Excellence616
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Oliver_de_jesus
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Huh, that not make Thanos' Black hole in Infinity war, a Real Black Hole?There’s also this
it dose,more then you think
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It'll likely give the Space Stone full-on Black Hole Creation instead of pseudo-Black Hole Creation, yes
As for the black hole that Thanos made in Infinity War, I can't find the source of this scan, but right at the bottom of it, it is straight-up stated to be a black hole
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This is what the text is refrring to if you were wondering
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Since this was brought up, I will ask something. What does everyone here think about adding a note in Thanos' profile to differenciate 2018 Thanos (Infinity War) and 2014 Thanos (Endgame)?
The two versions are identical in AP and P&A, so a separate key would be redundant, but their personality and fighting style are so vastly different that I do believe that in certain cases it would be beneficial to specify what version of the character is being used.
2018 Thanos is an honorable fighter that prefer not to kill if it's not necessary, while the 2014 Thanos is far more ruthless and sadistic, with an aggressive fighting style which makes him more than willing to kill. Not to mention that their starting move with the Complete Gauntlet is extremely different, since 2018 Thanos uses Deconstruction on singular individuals while 2014 Thanos just nukes the entire universe down to it's last atom.
The note would be something like: "While not necessary, in certain matches it would be preferable to specify if the version used is the 2018 Thanos seen in Infinity War or the 2014 one seen in Endgame. Their powers are the same, but their personality and fighting style are extremely different, so it's up to the user that makes the versus thread to decide if it's necessary to specify the version used or not".
Maybe it's a dumb proposal, so before doing anything I prefer to ask what everyone in here thinks about it.
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We could add this as "Standard Tactics" instead of a note
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Yes, you are right, it would be better in Standard Tactics instead.
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comiconlinefree.net/guidebook-to-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-marvel-s-thor/issue-full/full
Found the Thor 1 Guidebook everybody
Found the Thor 1 Guidebook everybody
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So Asgard has the day-night cycle because its gravity pull is powerful enough for that? Or i am reading wrong
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Nah, it just says that it has gravity "and" a day-night cycle, not that it has a day-night cycle because of the gravity
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@0:36 & 0:47
Despite not touching the water (0:36) nor touching the other parts of the vault's walls (0:47), the presence of three Frost Giants were freezing the interior of the vault.
Is this still part of their Ice Manipulation (even though they only used it to make a weapon to kill a guard) or is it Temperature Manipulation since their presence is what's causing the phenomenon?
Despite not touching the water (0:36) nor touching the other parts of the vault's walls (0:47), the presence of three Frost Giants were freezing the interior of the vault.
Is this still part of their Ice Manipulation (even though they only used it to make a weapon to kill a guard) or is it Temperature Manipulation since their presence is what's causing the phenomenon?
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Anybody want to guess as to what my next MCU CRT's gonna be about? 
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Seems more like Ice Manipulation
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So they'd have a passive effect on their environment and objects with Ice Manipulation since they can freeze metal until it becomes brittle, freeze water without touching it, and freeze a room's interior just by being in it?
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In Infinity War, were the dead Asgardians floating in space frozen or were they like Thor just floating bodies?
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A guidebook states that the Power Stone atomized Ronan, does that count as Matter Manipulation?
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Desconstrution
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Me to clarify that the CRT addresses multiple minor things that aren't related to each other
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Question. Why do we rate Valkyrie as "At most Low 7-C" when her justification states that she's superior to the likes of Loki and Sif? Wouldn't that just make her straight up Low 7-C?
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I guess it's cuz they're both At most 7-C too
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At least
Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
At most
Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
Loki tanking Iron Man's Repulsor blasts isn't the high end cap of Loki's Durability though? In fact, it's the low end cap since even though he grunts or shouts out in pain from the blasts he isn't that hurt by them, he gets back up afterwards in a few moments.
The high end cap for Loki's durability would be:
• Taking hits from Thor and surviving a hit to the torso from Mjolnir in the first Thor movie.
• Taking hits from Thor in the first Avengers movie.
• Surviving a beating from the Hulk in the first Avengers movie.
• Survived from having his dagger thrown back at him by Hela in Ragnarok.
I'm not saying his durability should scale to the likes of Thor, Hulk, and Hela. Just that him tanking Iron Man's Repulsor blasts shouldn't be the higher cap of his durability.
If anything his durability should be "At Least Low 7-C" for all the crap that he went through
Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
At most
Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
Loki tanking Iron Man's Repulsor blasts isn't the high end cap of Loki's Durability though? In fact, it's the low end cap since even though he grunts or shouts out in pain from the blasts he isn't that hurt by them, he gets back up afterwards in a few moments.
The high end cap for Loki's durability would be:
• Taking hits from Thor and surviving a hit to the torso from Mjolnir in the first Thor movie.
• Taking hits from Thor in the first Avengers movie.
• Surviving a beating from the Hulk in the first Avengers movie.
• Survived from having his dagger thrown back at him by Hela in Ragnarok.
I'm not saying his durability should scale to the likes of Thor, Hulk, and Hela. Just that him tanking Iron Man's Repulsor blasts shouldn't be the higher cap of his durability.
If anything his durability should be "At Least Low 7-C" for all the crap that he went through
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Nearing the end of their fight, when Loki pissed off Valkyrie by entering her head, a pissed off Valkyrie was able to knockout Loki in one punch
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Talking about that, the Low 7-C scaling of the GotG is like this: Loki < The Other (Very powerful even in comparasion to Loki) < Cosmi-Rod (Casually one-shot The Other) < Amped Cosmi-Rod (Empowered by the Power Stone) > GotG (Were just briefly knocked down without any noticeable damage)
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Yeah, it's weird that the aliens and hybrids get an "At Most" to their stats when the stuff that hits them doesn't harm them that much and instead just knocks them back.
I mean Iron Man gets a general Low 7-C rating despite being knocked down for who knows how long.
I mean Iron Man gets a general Low 7-C rating despite being knocked down for who knows how long.
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Iron Man got knocked down by Weakened Thor, who scaled to the full High 7-C shockwave. The Low 7-C portion that Iron Man tanked while knocked down didn't really do much iirc
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So the next CRT would be MCU Low 7-C Aliens revisions 
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Those affected by this potential CRT are
• Loki (And his Variants), Volstagg, Sif, Valkyrie, Heimdall, Skurge, Einherjar and the Berserkers
• Frost Giants
• Malekith, and Dark Elf Guns
• Guardians of the Galaxy
• Ronan
• Howard the Duck
Anyone else?
• Loki (And his Variants), Volstagg, Sif, Valkyrie, Heimdall, Skurge, Einherjar and the Berserkers
• Frost Giants
• Malekith, and Dark Elf Guns
• Guardians of the Galaxy
• Ronan
• Howard the Duck
Anyone else?
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Agents of SHIELD characters like Quake and Robbie ReyesThose affected by this potential CRT are
• Loki (And his Variants), Volstagg, Sif, Valkyrie, Heimdall, Skurge, Einherjar and the Berserkers
• Frost Giants
• Malekith, and Dark Elf Guns
• Guardians of the Galaxy
• Ronan
• Howard the Duck
Anyone else?
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