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That’s because she’s best girlTfw Namor Kukulkan got overshadowed hard by Fate Kukulkan
I found this statement that The Destroyer is Odin's most powerful weapon. Although the movie clearly shows it as inferior to Thor and Mjolnir, could this still warrant a "likely higher" or would this not work for whatever reason?
These seems unsourcedAlso, High 7-C Mark 1 Iron Man by scaling abovethe Jericho missiles
Scaling to Mjölnir I don't think but I suppose it could work as a possible scale to Odin's GungnirI found this statement that The Destroyer is Odin's most powerful weapon. Although the movie clearly shows it as inferior to Thor and Mjolnir, could this still warrant a "likely higher" or would this not work for whatever reason?
Gungnir still clashed with Thor when it was used by Loki, so I'm not 100% sure (granted, Thor was holding back/only defending himself). But if it does work, would The Destroyer become like "At most 6-B"?Scaling to Mjölnir I don't think but I suppose it could work as a possible scale to Odin's Gungnir
Didn't it also clash with Hela when it was used by Thor before she snapped it in half?Gungnir still clashed with Thor when it was used by Loki, so I'm not 100% sure (granted, Thor was holding back/only defending himself). But if it does work, would The destroyer be 6-B then?
Thor was weakened during Avengers due to the dark magic Odin used to transport him to EarthGungnir still clashed with Thor when it was used by Loki, so I'm not 100% sure (granted, Thor was holding back/only defending himself).
What? His talking about Thor 1 isn't he? Loki used Gungnir in Thor, then the Chitauri Scepter in Avengers.Thor was weakened during Avengers due to the dark magic Odin used to transport him to Earth
True, but I'm referring to the fight in Thor (2011), not The Avengers (2012)Thor was weakened during Avengers due to the dark magic Odin used to transport him to Earth
She didn't snap it in half, but yeah. Though it creates a weird scaling chain:Didn't it also clash with Hela when it was used by Thor before she snapped it in half?
Is it possible that the Destroyer's power is dependent on who's controlling? Since it seems you need Gungnir to control the Destroyer.She didn't snap it in half, but yeah. Though it creates a weird scaling chain:
Mjolnir > The Destroyer > Gungnir =< Hela >> Weakened Hela >> Mjolnir
Maybe Thor didn't know what Gungnir was really capable of in 2011?
Bruh wrong spear, my badWhat? His talking about Thor 1 isn't he? Loki used Gungnir in Thor, then the Chitauri Scepter in Avengers.
Yeah, it's alrightNew Asgard’s doing fine still correct?
YupAlso do you guys want to see more of gorr’s daughter considering thor adopts her?
Old spice commercial was funnyYeah, it's alright
Yup
How big is the 6-B scaling in the MCU currently?Mjolnir > The Destroyer > Gungnir =< Hela >> Weakened Hela >> Mjolnir
This but ordered differently ofcHow big is the 6-B scaling in the MCU currently?
• Crippled Surtur (Could push back Pre-Awakening Thor but got One-Shot in the end)
• Loki w/ Gungnir/Chitauri Scepter (Fought against a held back or weakened Pre-Awakening Thor but gets overpowered when Thor gets pissed)
• Aether Malekith (Could fight against Pre-Awakening Thor)
• Hulk (Could draw blood from Pre-Awakening Thor)
• Abomination (Could fight, draw blood, and overpower Hulk)
• Cull Obsidian (Could knock IW Warmachine down, and hold his own against the Hulkbuster and Mark 55 Armors)
• Fenris (Could draw blood from Hulk)
• Hulk w/ Rage (Could overpower Pre-Awakening Thor, Fenris and the Hulkbuster Armor)
• Vibranium Ultron (Could draw blood from Pre-Awakening Thor)
• Kurse (Could deflect Mjolnir and beat up Pre-Awakening Thor)
• Weakened Hela (Destroyed Mjolnir and can fight Pre-Awakening Thor)
• Recharged Hela (Can beat Pre-Awakening Thor w/Gungnir and was still regarded as stronger than Post-Awakening Thor)
• Thanos (Could beat up Post-Awakening Thor, Mark 55/85 Iron Man, Worthy Cap, and Hulk in IW and Endgame)
• Power Stone Ronin
• Surtur w/ Eternal Flame (One-Shot Recharged Hela then Asgard)
• Prime Hela (Was a threat to Prime Odin where he couldn't kill her and had her be sealed away instead)
• Hulkbuster Armors (Could hold their own against Hulk and Cull Obsidian)
• Warmachine Armors
• Rescue Armor
• Vision (Even with Vibranium Ultron, worthy of wielding Mjolnir during AoU)
• AoU-CW/IW/EG/WV/MoM Wanda (Could overpower Thanos, Vision, and tear open Vibranium Ultron's chest)
• Mark 55/85 Armors (Could hold their own against Thanos for a while)
• Worthy Cap (Can fight and draw blood from Thanos, and possesses the power of EG Thor)
• Post-Awakening Thor (Can fight and hold his own against Thanos)
• Captain Marvel (Can overpower Thanos)
• EG Gi-Ant-Man (One-Shot Cull Obsidian)
• Prime Odin (Crippled Surtur, banished Hela)
• Old Odin (Regarded by Pre-Awakening Thor as stronger than him)
This but ordered differently ofc
It was a massive reason. The internet would have a similar reception to DS2 if Tom Cruise or any other "leaks" came trueAnd also, the old spider-mans returning wasn't the only reason why it's so good, it's because
Yea in the last 5 minutes just like Wanda in DS2 lolMCU Peter started to rely onto himself, learn from his mistakes, and truly became spider-man on his own.
Only because she got viewed as a monster lolYea in the last 5 minutes just like Wanda in DS2 lol
MCU would be more interesting if Wanda was an Anti hero. But Wanda stans would probably kill Mike Waldron if that happenedOnly because she got viewed as a monster lol
So I guess maybe The Destroyer could be:
Either that, or scrap the statement for inaccuracy/potential scaling problems
- At least City level, likely higher (Considered by Thor in 2011 to be Odin's most powerful weapon, though it ultimately proved inferior to him and Mjölnir)
I see that light energy statement on Mark IVMaybe now Iron Man Mk I can get an actual LS rating (from the Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary):
Even though he was holding back he was still trying to incapacitate him so the speed scaling should be fineIn fact, why are we even scaling Spider-Man to Rel+ when Strange was clearly holding back with him?
Its pretty much an impressive intelligence feat since given the abilities used, most people would've lost, but yeah, Strange didn't wanna kill the guyaltough the only thing i would like to say is that in NWH Strange wasn't excatly going for the kill, so in a way he did hold back, and Spider-Man actually had to use a very creative way to defeat him, using math noneless
But even then, this isn't always how powerscaling works. It's like me trying to get DCEU Bats to scale to Relativistic cause Supes was holding backEven though he was holding back he was still trying to incapacitate him so the speed scaling should be fine
It's like me trying to get DCEU Bats to scale to Relativistic cause Supes was holding back
Yeah that’s fair enough, what other justifications does spidey have for relativistic?But even then, this isn't always how powerscaling works. It's like me trying to get DCEU Bats to scale to Relativistic cause Supes was holding back
Wait really? Cause we do see that as an outlier for some reasonI've seen a lot of debates on that recently for some reason