MCU Cosmology Upgrade – It’s about Time

[Marvel_Champion_07]

One question though, why is Loki 6D in AP?

For now only his Time powers would scale to 6-D, but I can definitely see an argument for either a possibly or a solid 6-D scaling being made in the future.

 

[Georredannea15]

The Void probably qualified for 6-D with just raw size, the fact that Loki can time travel to pre-branching points shows that it also has a higher temporal axis.

So yeah I'm good with it.

But wait a minute, if i remember correct, DT said that going from timelines to pre-branching time by "time travel" is not the proof of higher temporal axis.

Edit: Ahh, yeah. Here (damn, he literally said it for Loki's situation)

 

[ThanatosX]

But wait a minute, if i remember correct, DT said that going from timelines to pre-branching time by "time travel" is not the proof of higher temporal axis.

Edit: Ahh, yeah. Here (damn, he literally said it for Loki's situation)

First of all, that's far from the only evidence as I explained in the thread. Second, that's not what happens and the drawing made by DT is incorrect based on what happens in the series.
What he rappresented in the drawing and the example he talks about is a case in which a character time travels in the Time axis of the Timeline (aka the regular time axis) to before the branching happened. This isn't what happens in the series, and time travelling in the temporal dimension of the Timelines to before a certain branching happened wouldn't work since the branching already happened and it would just create a new Timeline, nothing else.
What happens in the series is that he time travel in the Time axis of the Void to before the branching happened at all. He doesn't travel throught the regular past since the branching already happened in all points of time and it wouldn't affect anything, but he travels throught the past of the Void's time axis. The branching happened in the past of the second temporal dimension (the one the Void works on), not the temporal dimension in which the singular Timelines works on.

 

[Qawsedf234]

But wait a minute, if i remember correct, DT said that going from timelines to pre-branching time by "time travel" is not the proof of higher temporal axis.

I was taking it as Loki going to an alternate timeline where it never branched in the first place, which would count.

If he didn't then yeah, it would technically not be a second temporal axis with just that showing.

 

[Georredannea15]

I was taking it as Loki going to an alternate timeline where it never branched in the first place, which would count.

If he didn't then yeah, it would technically not be a second temporal axis with just that showing.

So before branching, you agree with the extra temporal dimension because it's branching out into a different timeline.

But, in order for such a timeline to become a higher dimension, shouldn't the timeline change without any branching, and go "time travel" within the changing timeline to the time before its change?

So instead of going from one timeline to another, it's time travel to the time before the change in the timeline that changes and continues in this continuity. Because such changes occur on the entire timeline. That's what I meant

 

[Qawsedf234]

So before branching, you agree with the extra temporal dimension because it's branching out into a different timeline.

After the TVA was stopped free choice was allowed. This was a retroactive change and applied from the beginning of the timeline to the present. Traveling to a pre-branched version that isn't effected by Loki would imply a second axis since Loki wasn't in the pre-Big Bang era afaik.

 

[Georredannea15]

After the TVA was stopped free choice was allowed. This was a retroactive change and applied from the beginning of the timeline to the present. Traveling to a pre-branched version that isn't effected by Loki would imply a second axis since Loki wasn't in the pre-Big Bang era afaik.

Hmmm, alr, if that's the case and there is such a change in the timeline. Lmao MCU is one of the rare verses that fits this

 

[ThanatosX]

There are 20 agreements, including 5 from staff members with voting rights, and 48 hours have passed, so I believe this can be applied.
I noticed that the Loki's image have been already changed, and since only his Time Powers scales to this and the name change have been rejected there are no changes to make in his page.
The only page that needs to be unlocked is K.E.V.I.N. to update his statistics from Low 1-C to 1-C.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

There are 20 agreements, including 5 from staff members with voting rights, and 48 hours have passed, so I believe this can be applied.
I noticed that the Loki's image have been already changed, and since only his Time Powers scales to this and the name change have been rejected there are no changes to make in his page.
The only page that needs to be unlocked is K.E.V.I.N. to update his statistics from Low 1-C to 1-C.

@Marvel_Champion_07 @Dereck03

 

[Dereck03]

@Marvel_Champion_07 @Dereck03

Done.

 

[ThanatosX]

The changes to K.E.V.I.N.'s profile have been applied. If there is nothing else left to discuss, this thread can be closed.
Thanks to everyone for the help and the inputs in this CRT!

 

[Dereck03]

Closed the profile and locking the thread.