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here we go both the explanations, these don't need as much of our own explanation since these are pretty info heavy
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Mcu Cosmology rough draft
here we go both the explanations, these don't need as much of our own explanation since these are pretty info heavy
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Ok so then this should atleast be put before the dark elf stuff in the timeline technically
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Yep and either before the infinity stones stuff too since or before the nine realms and other dimensions since this is equally as important as the infinity as stones
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Nah still after the infinity stones since they predate the universe and thus time and space
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That's fair I agree to that so well just do this after the infinity stones and the creation of the universe initially(important to note the multiverse still always existed here and it just wasn't connected by kang/he who remains)
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Ok so now that we are back on track let’s countine with the long history of the nine realms
During Odins conquering days he aquired many powerfully items and artifacts and defeated the mighty Surtur and took his eternal flame. But eventually after growing older and wiser he became less blood thirsty and put his conquering days behind him. But his first born child, Hela did not agree with this and went agianst her father and so the king of Asgard sent his Valkyrie’s agianst her but they were all killed expect for one who would run and hide and never show her face to asgard for thousands of years to come. This forced the AllFather to seal his daughter away.
During Odins conquering days he aquired many powerfully items and artifacts and defeated the mighty Surtur and took his eternal flame. But eventually after growing older and wiser he became less blood thirsty and put his conquering days behind him. But his first born child, Hela did not agree with this and went agianst her father and so the king of Asgard sent his Valkyrie’s agianst her but they were all killed expect for one who would run and hide and never show her face to asgard for thousands of years to come. This forced the AllFather to seal his daughter away.
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After which we can explain the fate of jotinheim in Thor 1 as well as that of the dark elves in thor 2 those can be a bit more brief lastly leading to Ragnarok from which we can move on from the nine realms entirelyOk so now that we are back on track let’s countine with the long history of the nine realms
During Odins conquering days he aquired many powerfully items and artifacts and defeated the mighty Surtur and took his eternal flame. But eventually after growing older and wiser he became less blood thirsty and put his conquering days behind him. But his first born child, Hela did not agree with this and went agianst her father and so the king of Asgard sent his Valkyrie’s agianst her but they were all killed expect for one who would run and hide and never show her face to asgard for thousands of years to come. This forced the AllFather to seal his daughter away.
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Technically no, we still have to talk about stuff on Midgard like the eternals, the 10 rings, hydra, cap and etc
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One choice can branch infinite timelines
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That we’ll be for much later
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Hydra and cap don't really have any bearing on the actual cosmology of the MCU I don't see why we'd mention them but you're right we'd technically still be talking about the eternals and 10 rings as well as the sorcerer's but aside from that there's not much on earth that effects the structure of the universe or interacts with reality as a whole. I was meaning to say we'll be done with the 9 realms as in saying the Asgard chapter of it will be concluded which connect's to rest of the realms and their fate in some way
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I thought we were talking about almost all of the history? Your also forgetting a purple individual. Ok
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No not everything that's unnecessary for a cosmology blog I meant the necessary history for what things we need to talk about in the cosmology and the nine realms was important for us to go through as we are because they're integral to the cosmology and the structure of said realms has changed since their start (for things like that is why I said the cosmology and history is intertwined, we don't need the full history of everything just for the important things that intersect with said cosmology)
we'll talk about Thanos with gauntlet that's necessary but it wouldn't be long since we'll mostly be talking about the stones abilities and the aspects of the universe they represent along with their power in the completed gauntlet.
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Ok fair enough
maybe, the eternals might shine some more light on the mad titan plus he did force the avengers to time travel and inadvertently freeing the multivrese from kang
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Maybe but that's why this is a slow burn because the cosmic scale is ever growing in the current MCU and yeah that's a necessary thing to mention as well as the whole absolute point concept
The quantum realm is also one of the last big cosmology point we need to hit
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True
may but we’re gonna have to wait until ant man 3 since the quantum realm is still not very well know
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Eventually the Frost giants decided to use there most powerful weapon, the Casket of ancient winters to kill and take over the weakest realm at the time, Midgard/Earth. They were going to do this by plunging the earth into a new ice age with the casket. But the AllFather would not have it and fought for the humans and defeated the Frost giants along with taking there weapon which held there planet together and forcing them into a piece treaty. The AllFather also took the son of the Frost giant king as his own and named him Loki, he was small for a giant but would go on to play part of universal changing events.
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Should we include Agatha?
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Not really no and we know enough to mention some big thinks like that the quantum realm behaves different than our than the larger physical world and that the same physics don't apply and that the avengers have used it to time travel
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Found a more detailed version of the Primordial entity pic
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Found this.
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NiceFound this.
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Hopefully this thread will become more active when "What it if...?" finishes.
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It probably well
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Yeah we're really just waiting on the eternals so we get the celestials fitted within the cosmology and tiered
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Bumping this. The need for an established mcu cosmology is a lot bigger now that we have Loki and What If. Hopefully this thread can start getting a lot more attention.
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Yeah that's what I'm hoping too way more people for a major overhaul and push here
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I’m kinda just waiting for what if season 1 to finish because there’s probably gonna be some newer cosmic stuff. But I should probably lay out what stuff we’re gonna talk about in chronological order or something like that
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Creation of the stones,Big Bang and multivresal war,ending the multivresal war with alioth and confining the multivrese to one timeline(main line), reign of the dark elves, Bor fights and defeats dark elves, years of peace, young Odin becomes a warmongering king with the help of his daughter and conjures the nine realms, Odin seals hela, Odin protects Midgard from Frost giants and takes baby Loki and ancient casket of winters, wenwu discovers the ten rings
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What If Episode 8 Feats
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Going to add this to since it's going to end up scaling up the infinity stones and probably affirming Thanos's statement about tearing the universe down to it's last atom and then reconstructing it which ofc is 3-A
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Yessir and it needs to make it's return
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Mind Stone Ultron > 3-A Thanos 
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Technically it'd probably be higher if it effected any other dimensions such as ta-Lo or the dark dimension
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both are their own universal sized if not larger sized dimensions that are within each timeline
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Because Vision is dumdum
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The former is ironic given the start of IW.
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So here's all I could gather about the timeline:
You also have Agamotto creating the Master of the Mystic Arts and the Dweller-of-Darkness being imprisonned among other events
- Before the Universe: Ginnungagap, the state of primordial void and darkness. The Dark Elves are there
- Big Bang & Creation of the Stones (by the cosmic entities?)
- The One Who Remains unites several variants of himself but this causes a multiversal war. He uses Alioth to end it and confine the Multiverse to one timeline
- Celestials are roaming across the Universe and use the Stones to pass judgment upon planets (and do whatever the hell they're doing). Ego is born and starts to create his planet, visits other worlds and starts to plan his Expansion by siring children and planting seeds of himself on various planets
- The Earth is formed around that time. A meteor of vibranium falls on Africa millennia later and five tribes settle where the meteor has landed. They fight each other until a shaman recieves a vision from Bast and obtains the Black Panther plant
- The Celestials create the Eternals and they come to Earth in Ancient Mesopotamia around 5.000 BCE. They fight Deviants to protect humans and inspire various mythological figures like Gilgamesh and gods.
- A faction of Kree come to Earth and start creating Inhumans with Diviners. Alveus, the first Inhuman, is created but rebels and is sent to Maveth.
- Bor defeats Malekith and the Dark Elves when they try to use the Aether to plunge the Universe into darkness. The Aether is hidden on Earth and Malekith and the rest of the Dark Elves go dormant.
- Odin starts his campaign of conquest with Hela, turning Asgard into an empire. He defeats Surtur and conquers the Nine Realms but decides to stop there and imprisons Hela after she tried to overthrow him to take over the cosmos.
- Wenwu finds the Ten Rings and creates his group, becoming a conquerer.
- Thor is born from Odin and Frigga. Some time after, Odin leads Asgard's army against the Frost Giants and repels them to Jotunheim where he defeats Laufey. He discovers an abandonned Frost Giant baby. He names Loki and raises him with his own son Thor.
You also have Agamotto creating the Master of the Mystic Arts and the Dweller-of-Darkness being imprisonned among other events
