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Massive Sonic CRT

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LightReinh12345

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This document is pretty much it
Credits to a friend for creating this document
About the translations I would like to someone verify & properly translate some of the points since Google translator isn't that much reliable
Edit: i didnt make the document so kindly stop attacking me personally neither do I know same pattern crt made like this as few people are saying politely refute the points & state the points you agree & disagree with
I personally disagree with few points as well & agree with some points as well
 
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Theuser789 said:
This is just that shitty thread from before that tried to downgrading everything in Sonic, except worse than before because it now thinks that two setences is enough to debunk shit, we really need to stop low quality downgrade threads
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Weird cause I think you didnt read it completely
Sure it has some flaws but some points arent that Shitty I think , as he (who Made the document)really put efforts into it , even if this is not true try to do it calmly
By the way I ask you to behave kindly
We dont need a toxic environment to stop the downgrade you can do it politely, thats kinda just feels like ad hominem & ignorance to me
Also saying its Shitty without giving any points is Shitty as well don't you think so?
 
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Sonic put the emeralds to restore the continent, he had a whole fight with Eggman, then Dark Gaia appeared, some event, and Chip call the temples, and the continent didn’t reach the Earth yet
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Another one of the quality points, this isn't the feat the blog uses, completely moot point
While for the feat in Sonic Advance 3, Eggman was stated to use Chaos Control to do this feat, and in Unleashed the emeralds were drain from doing this with raw energy, meaning Chaos Control from 1 Emerald > 7 Emeralds
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Dark Gaia did it, not the emeralds
LightReinh12345 said:
Weird cause I think you didnt read it completely
Sure it has some flaws but some points arent that Shitty I think , as he (who Made the document)really put efforts into it , even if this is not true try to do it calmly
By the way I ask you to behave kindly
We dont need a toxic environment to stop the downgrade you can do it politely
Also saying its Shitty without giving any points is Shitty as well don't you think so?
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The points are bad, if this is being "toxic" just get out and make better threads that aren't trying to downgrade the whole verse for the 100th time, if you want respect don't make CRT's trying to debunk Sonic in less than two weeks period using all Discord links (which makes me believe there's a group trying to downgrade Sonic since this is the second time it happens) that don't even have the original poster actually commenting on the thread, plus I seen you go into Sonic threads and mostly agreeing with downgrades, don't be mad if people start to get sus when this stuff keeps happening
 
sanicspood said:
well, untill someone actually refutes the points I'm going neutral for now
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Nobody is going to refute 18 pages of bad arguments, people here don't have all the free time in the world to read essay number 23rd about how all of Sonic's feats should be downgraded
 
Theuser789 said:
Another one of the quality points, this isn't the feat the blog uses, completely moot point

Dark Gaia did it, not the emeralds

The points are bad, if this is being "toxic" just get out and make better threads that aren't trying to downgrade the whole verse for the 100th time, if you want respect don't make CRT's trying to debunk Sonic in less than two weeks period using all Discord links (which makes me believe there's a group trying to downgrade Sonic since this is the second time it happens) that don't even have the original poster actually commenting on the thread, plus I seen you go into Sonic threads and mostly agreeing with downgrades, don't be mad if people start to get sus when this stuff keeps happening
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Personal feelings is it
Ur rude behaviour is unexpected
& ad hominem what u did was purely ad hominem lol
U cant tell me to get lost instead I can tell you for behaving this rudely
Sorry I dont even go that much into sonic Threads also idk where u saw me
People are actually calm even if they agree or neutral or strongly disagree
U are the one who is not calm & bringing irrelevant things & thus derailing the thread
 
The feat the blog use is simmilar, this point is about the time took in the calcs isn't the good one since the continent took a lot of time, meaning the time from the other continent which was use in the blog wasn't the good one

Hum no the emeralds did it was stated in the manual
 
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I genuily don't see what motivates people to do those threads "yeah bro all Sonic's feats are invalid lol", so what the frick would you actually put them, what feats would you scale? A good downgrade thread has asnwer to these questions, yet all we have is an obssession with debunking and wanting people to waste their time on their aimless thread and then call them out because they won't bite your bait
Shine said:
The feat the blog use is simmilar, this point is about the time took in the calcs isn't the good one since the continent took a lot of time, meaning the time from the other
continent which was use in the blog wasn't the good one
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Shine said:
Hum no the emeralds did it was stated in the manual
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Literally all assumptions, the feat is different and therefore comparing it is wrong, that simple

The emeralds awakened Dark Gaia, he broke the world

Now stop making CRT's simply to just DEBOOONK shit
 
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There's a lot to go over with this, and the Doc does have a lot of things I used to agree with. While I actually do agree with some of the points, I actually disagree with 90% of the outcome of it nowadays. I personally think Tier 5 base Sonic is consistent now, mostly because of the Unleashed Planet level+ calc though. As for the Tier 2 stuff, I sort of agree with the Egg Wizard and Egg Salamander parts, but the latter would still be Low 2-C individually in those instance. But Time Eater and Solaris both have solid Tier 2 feats that scale to Sonic.

But I have a lot on my plate ATM, so I may break down components in the doc later.
 
In my honest opinion, if you want this to be a CRT that people actually respect, divide this in parts instead of trying to downgrade the entire verse in one go for the second time
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
There's a lot to go over with this, and the Doc does have a lot of things I used to agree with. While I actually do agree with some of the points, I actually disagree with 90% of the outcome of it nowadays. I personally think Tier 5 base Sonic is consistent now, mostly because of the Unleashed Planet level+ calc though. As for the Tier 2 stuff, I sort of agree with the Egg Wizard and Egg Salamander parts, but the latter would still be Low 2-C individually in those instance. But Time Eater and Solaris both have solid Tier 2 feats that scale to Sonic.

But I have a lot on my plate ATM, so I may break down components in the doc later.
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Would be Glad if you do that
I dont think this is downgrading everything (some of them are downgrading but not all) & the egg man part is changing some justifications & clear some misconceptions about that
 
Theuser789 said:
In my honest opinion, if you want this to be a CRT that people actually respect, divide this in parts instead of trying to downgrade the entire verse in one go for the second time
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Who told you all of this is downgrade some of them are changing justifications as well
 
Shine said:
These aren't, they are the same feat aka restoring the continent, meaning these feats are comparable,
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We actually see the continent move in the first one, they aren't comparable because Dark Gaia stopped the second one closing, and even the we don't have a timeframe for Eggmanland anyways, you are just assuming longer to downplay

Manual directly stated the emeralds destroy the planet and Dark Gaia awoke after this
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https://media.discordapp.net/attach...531635879956/unknown.png?width=919&height=517
Nope, it says the beam fired, never that the breaking was related to the the emeralds
The beam awakened Dark Gaia, who broke the world, blatantly stated by the game's plot
 
Theuser789 said:
Every single point is downgrading, this is just dishonest, show me one thing that isn't a downgrade there, because that's all I read
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Ok the egg man part is just refuting some points, super sonic will still scale to Solaris with amps & the document didnt Adress that
 
LightReinh12345 said:
Ok the egg man part is just refuting some points, super sonic will still scale to Solaris with amps & the document didnt Adress that
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No it's not, everything related to eggman is trying to downgrade the Egg Dragon, the Egg Salamander and Wizard and the Time Eater, all of those, or at least saying Sonic doesn't scale which is a downgrade, "scaling with amps" IS a downgrade, stop being dishonest about your intentions that everyone can see through
 
Theuser789 said:
No it's not, everything related to eggman is trying to downgrade the Egg Dragon, the Egg Salamander and Wizard and the Time Eater, all of those, or at least saying Sonic doesn't scale which is a downgrade, "scaling with amps" IS a downgrade, stop being dishonest about your intentions that everyone can see through
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First of all this is not my Intention lol
Dont try to say your Words on my mouth everyone can See through
I dont actually care that much but I want more accuracy
I said the 2-C scaling part of egg man
every Bit is not downgrading
He is still in the same Tier from scaling to Solaris
Scaling with amps isnt downgrade he still scales to that Tier like same I think u misunderstood the document then
 
Stop, just stop, the document is indeed all downgrades, it debunks all tier 5 feats downgrading Sonic, it debunks tier 2 feats/scaling, downgrading him outside of "amps" which is a downgrade because he currently isn't, just stop, you are trying too hard
 
We actually see the continent move in the first one, they aren't comparable because Dark Gaia stopped the second one closing, and even the we don't have a timeframe for Eggmanland anyways, you are just assuming longer to downplay
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They are and no since nothing show Dark Gaia sopped the second one, we have and is longer than 3,4 second while it didn't reach the planet yet

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...531635879956/unknown.png?width=919&height=517
Nope, it says the beam fired, never that the breaking was related to the the emeralds
https://info.sonicretro.org/Yoshihisa_Hashimoto_interview_by_GameSpot_(September_10,_2008)
The beam awakened Dark Gaia, who broke the world, blatantly stated by the game's plot
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"With a roar, the world was ripped into seven continents, which floated around the core. From the atermath of this destrcution, the colossal beast Dark Gaia awoke"

It's the emeralds not Dark Gaia
 
The document looks like something which came out of someone's ass. i.e, it's badly put together and has way too many errors to count on my fingers and toes altogether.
 
Large Planet Base Sonic is basically like saying Archie Sonic is Multi+ in base for defeating someone amped by 7 Chaos Emeralds.


I am fine with Planet-Planet+ Sonic tho

Large Planet is based from 7 Chaos Emeralds which 7=Super Forms
 
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